WildBrick142 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Is this for real or sad fanon? It's real, checked it just now. It's in the EBK15 section of american.gxt Copcaller and universetwisters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Fatale Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 They should've kept it, I wonder what Niko's reply would've been... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 They should've kept it, I wonder what Niko's reply would've been... new email who dis Gummy , Femme Fatale, Copcaller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulyadi Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 GTAWikia isn't a good resource for old 3D era GTA and 2D era GTA. Grandtheftwiki did the best. but GTAWikia is a best(might be the only) that frequently update GTA V resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 GTAWikia isn't a good resource for old 3D era GTA and 2D era GTA. Grandtheftwiki did the best. but GTAWikia is a best(might be the only) that frequently update GTA V resources. Well that's an interesting statement since the GTAWiki content covering the 2D and 3D pages IS grandtheftwiki content (when they split, they exported what they had already put on wikia). e.g. just grabbing a recently updated page from wikia: https://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Dirty_Laundry&action=history http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Dirty_Laundry?action=history Many of those pages have only had cosmetic updates on wikia since 2010. Monkeypolice188, GrudgefromSanAndreas, RedDagger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Voltaire Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Wow, just noticed V had weapon map location pic just like SA thanks, this is my 12th time of V playthrough and I want to find all weapon instead of buying them Edited October 21, 2017 by CGFforLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Voltaire Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 It is said that the Families gang will attack Trevor unprovocated, never happened to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 So evidently the wikia says Chef was voiced by Anthony Cumia of the Opie & Anthony fame just because Anthony made an short remark saying "I voice a breaking bad-like character" or something similar, even though they sound nothing alike, and the fact that Chef's voice actor wasn't credited doesn't help at all. And when I brought it up on Chef's talk page... So instead of having to cite our sources for adding information, we have to cite our sources to remove information? Wot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Read the damn policy - good faith. Himeros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Okay but that still doesn't explain why I should find a source proving that Anthony Cumia didn't voice Chef as opposed to whoever made that edit providing a source that does prove that he voiced Chef in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypolice188 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Okay, so two sources have been found and added to the article. A debatable source is better than no source - if the information on the external source site is "debatable", that is completely up to the reader and not the wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) IMDB is known to be unreliable. Why have "debatable" information on the wiki instead of factual? As I mentioned on the talk page: why would they not credit Cumia for the part of Chef but credit him for the voice in the Pisswasser commercial? I think a fair compromise would be saying in the trivia section that Cumia may have originally voiced Chef or something to that effect. Edited November 5, 2017 by universetwisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 FWIW, Cumia is uncredited for all his "character" voice work in Rockstar titles, including Jeb Murphy in RDR. The Pisswasser jingle is directly credited, however this is probably due to music copyright requirements. The "from the horse's mouth" Twitter source is the reliable source that needs to be disproved (not IMDB which, as I've stated before, is about as "reliable" as Wikipedia). As stated, a sourced statement needs to be reliably disproved, not the other way around. That is our policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Twitter I believe having to be proved, and digging through I found this: When asked about being a voice in the game, he said -@AnthonyCumia:RT CQSbobelly AnthonyCumia are you voicing in the GTAV game?-Perhaps. Think Walter White. Which reminded me of something that happened earlier with a similar character named Casey (which is what I was referring to in the talk page), where their VA blabbed and was like YEA I VOICE THIS CHARACTER and then when the game came out, turns out their lines got yanked and replaced with some from someone else. Could Rockstar have done similar? Possibly. Could Cumia have lied about his role? Knowing his persona on the show, possibly. Comparing Chef's voice to Cumia's, the two are very very different. Almost all of Cumia's accents refer back to his normal Long Island accent, whereas Chef's voice sounds hispanic with no Long Island influences. But that aside, Cumia's twitter post said he voiced a "Walter White" character, that doesn't necessarily mean it's Chef. I sent Rockstar a mouthoff asking about it in the vain hopes they shoot me back. I suggest anyone with a Twitter ask Cumia if he voiced Chef in the vain hopes he shoots you back. Either way, I think Chef's VA on the wiki should still be listed as "Unknown" or "Uncredited" until we find out for sure. Cumia voicing Chef only became a "sourced statement" when this edit war was going on and it never was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Cumia voicing Chef only became a "sourced statement" when this edit war was going on and it never was before. Wrong. http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:ZT111#Anthony_Cumia-Chef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) Cumia voicing Chef only became a "sourced statement" when this edit war was going on and it never was before. Wrong.http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:ZT111#Anthony_Cumia-Chef It was sourced on Chef's page, I meant. That's why I suddenly have to jump through all these holes to get this probable misinformation removed. Which reminds me, when Cumia mentioned a "Walter White type character", what exactly did he mean? Could he mean a guy who used to be a teacher? Could he mean a guy who got shot to death? His statement "Think walter white" is really vague and everyone here is trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Edited November 5, 2017 by universetwisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 This is an example of valid removal of unsourced voice actor claims and is actually the reason I did my own research in 2015 to verify the Chef statement (in case we were deallng with another sockpuppet of the anthonycumiawashere nutjob). I was satisfied then and am still satisfied now that the statement is accurate. The only other possibility for what Cumia was referring to was the gay sex random encounter in the "Breaking Bad RV" in Blaine County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) I still feel like the page should be reverted back for Chef's voice actor to be uncredited since it pretty much is at this point, the only source we have is IMDB and again, literally anyone can edit it. It's better to have no information than wrong information. Now that you mention it, I do think Cumia's voice was for one of the gay sex RC rednecks, possibly even the one who tazes you and leaves you on the train line five seconds into the video. At least the likeliness of that is higher than him voicing Chef. Edited November 5, 2017 by universetwisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 No, you are incorrect, IMDB is not our source... Cumia's statements on Twitter are our source. IMDB was updated around the same time for the same reason. It will not be reverted unless the actors own statement can be reliably discredited. That's the wrong abandoned vehicle event. #2 is the one with the two rednecks getting it on in a "Breaking Bad" Journey near the windfarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 IMDB is the source Chef's page has listed for his voice actor. It would be better to link Cumia's Twitter post (If it wasn't deleted, Casey situation all over again?) and even then, he doesn't specifically mention he voices Chef. Again, you're trying to fit a square peg into a hole that may or may not be round. You're pretty much saying "Cumia said he voiced a Walter White character, Walter White & Chef both cook meth, therefore Cumia voices Chef". It's literally a Texas sharpshooter fallacy. And I'm aware of the video, I'm just pointing out that Cumia could have voiced the one redneck since it sounds similar to the redneck voice he does occasionally on O&A. That event takes place in a desert, Breaking Bad takes place in a desert, could that be what Cumia was referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypolice188 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I added the IMDB references as I don't have any reference to the tweet. If you're able to provide a link or capture in replacement, please go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 It was written as the first post of this thread. It was never screencapped and the tweet itself got deleted. Again (for what feels like the 30th time), I still don't think Cumia should be credited as the voice actor for Chef since "Think Walter White" is incredibly vague. If he said something like "Yes I voiced Chef" then I'd be all for keeping the mention on the wiki but it's just too vague to make anything out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) Ah, didn't notice Monk had added that ref tag. His original twitter account @AnthonyCumia was suspended? and his new one @anthonycumiaxyz only started up in July this year. https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumia/status/363780769174802432was the original source. I'll see if I can "wayback machine" it. (edit - internet weirdness duplicate posted) Edited November 5, 2017 by smurfynz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Yep, been suspended. Putting that link through the wayback machine does nothing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfynz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 ... Again (for what feels like the 30th time), I still don't think Cumia should be credited as the voice actor for Chef since "Think Walter White" is incredibly vague. If he said something like "Yes I voiced Chef" then I'd be all for keeping the mention on the wiki but it's just too vague to make anything out of it. You don't, several others do. Get over it. Monkeypolice188 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) You don't, several others do. Get over it. Several others either don't know what Anthony Cumia sounds like or just love being misinformed then. >ignoring the point this hard Edited November 6, 2017 by universetwisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Voltaire Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If either of you want to know who the real Chef voice actor, then watch the credit (I couldn't watch the credit for reason) So it's said that in Fresh Meat, if Coquette was chosen as getaway vehicle then a lot of dubstas will appear to block the coquette, but this never happen to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 If Chef voice actor was actually credited then it would've been a help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 A bump just because Rockstar shockingly got back to me and the GTAWikia folks were right all along. Himeros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Fatale Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Do you feel dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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