Suicide Drama Queens

[kjonah]

I mean if there were cop-free lobbies, then sure taking the easy way out may be kinda unnecessary, but considering that you could kill me with a shot from the starter pistol while I'm being swarmed by police makes it kind of fair. Why should someone get an easy kill?

play deathmatches then, no cops there.

[.Vooodu.]

It depends on the situation. I'll use suicide whenever I'm in a tight spot and need outta dodge fast. Not gonna put myself at an disadvantage over some "moral code" bs.

 

That being said, I aint goin out like no bitch neither

 

 

But you are going out like a bitch.. "Easy way out" Is basically "Going out like a bitch"

 

Seriously.. translate that for a second.

[kjonah]

I spend 90% of my time in Gta Online in pvp situations, (which is actually the reason I still play as often as I do). It's nothing more then a battle tactic like others have said. Placement, line of sight, etc. Rarely, if ever, have I seen a player kill themselves for the pure purpose of exiting or running away from a fight entirely lol. There's a passive mode option for that.

using an rpg is a battle tactic too but its more expensive

[Jerking For Soup]

It's not that people that suicide are drama queens or break some sort of moral code, its how the losers who die by them and then try and get a kill on them feel stupid when they suicide.

 

It's a good tactic. It might be underhanded, but stop f*cking complaining, and visit the bitch and moan thread.

[.Vooodu.]

 

I mean if there were cop-free lobbies, then sure taking the easy way out may be kinda unnecessary, but considering that you could kill me with a shot from the starter pistol while I'm being swarmed by police makes it kind of fair. Why should someone get an easy kill?

play deathmatches then, no cops there.

 

 

 

Some people don't get it.. They never will.

 

The cops are just there. Your goal on foot or in normal vehicles is to keep the wanted level at 1 or 2 stars and LOSE it ASAP once you get it. 3 stars is when it gets out of hand.

 

 

100% of the time. You have enough time to engage in combat and move. If you're fast enough you barely get a 1 star.

 

If you just hang around shooting.. Cops will swarm.. This is what Suicide Spammers do.. They DON"T want to MOVE. They cling to an area where they think they have a slight advantage, get off as many shots as they can then kill themselves when they feel threatended. They anchor themselves to an area and rely on suicide to avoid and sort of back and forth action.

Edited March 24, 2016 by HulioG

[Shneb]

 

You took the time to drive up to them, so you definitely deserve a kill huh?

 

 

What are you talking about?

 

 

Took the the time? Deserve a kill? Don't spin angles on me because i don't buy it.

 

 

Im talking about suicide spam that players use.. Not who deserves kills. If you didn't want to be killed you would not be in a public game with your wang out shooting.

Now you're not even responding to me really. Sure you've quoted me, but I outright said I don't pvp much. You're just responding to your own preconceived notions about what anyone who uses that feature is like.

 

I still have no reason to believe this feature even affects gameplay much. That it's worth getting worked up over.

Edited March 24, 2016 by Shneb

[kjonah]

suiciders are players who are not as good as they think they are. they are tdm players and not used to the wars in freemode and how to handle them, which is why they take the easy way out. it doesnt annoy me, its more amusing and i generally avoid these types of players after i get the kill.

[.Vooodu.]

It's not that people that suicide are drama queens or break some sort of moral code,

 

 

Suicide spam is game play mechanic issue. Not a moral code issue. And it being addressed is not BAD. Its an issue after all.

 

I just don't use it because i have my own code that tells me. "Don't be a bitch". But thats besides the actual point.

 

True issue here is sh*tty game play mechanics being abused. Always was.

 

Just because this topic has grown into a monster.. is not my fault. Im not the one defending bad game play mechanics. This topic could have died.. it just keeps comming back..lol

[kjonah]

 

 

I mean if there were cop-free lobbies, then sure taking the easy way out may be kinda unnecessary, but considering that you could kill me with a shot from the starter pistol while I'm being swarmed by police makes it kind of fair. Why should someone get an easy kill?

play deathmatches then, no cops there.

 

 

 

Some people don't get it.. They never will.

 

The cops are just there. Your goal on foot or in normal vehicles is to keep the wanted level at 1 or 2 stars and LOSE it ASAP once you get it. 3 stars is when it gets out of hand.

 

 

100% of the time. You have enough time to engage in combat and move. If you're fast enough you barely get a 1 star.

If you just hang around shooting.. Cops will swarm.. This is what Suicide Spammers do.. They DON"T want to MOVE. The cling to an area where they think they have a slight advantage, get off as many shots as they can then kill themselves when they feel threatended. They anchor themselves to an area and rely on suicide to avoid and sort of back and forth action.

 

the cops are the biggest gang in gta, its a major part of the game so youve got to deal with them one way or another. suiciders dont understand freeroam, they have low attention span.

[.Vooodu.]

I outright said I don't pvp much.

 

 

Ok then.. Clearly your opinion is not that useful.

 

Like someone who does not cook, giving cooking advice. Thanks.. but no thanks.

[kjonah]

 

 

You took the time to drive up to them, so you definitely deserve a kill huh?

 

What are you talking about?

 

 

Took the the time? Deserve a kill? Don't spin angles on me because i don't buy it.

 

 

Im talking about suicide spam that players use.. Not who deserves kills. If you didn't want to be killed you would not be in a public game with your wang out shooting.

Now you're not even responding to me really. Sure you've quoted me, but I outright said I don't pvp much. You're just responding to your own preconceived notions about what anyone who uses that feature is like.

 

I still have no reason to believe this feature even affects gameplay much. That it's worth getting worked up over.

 

suicide affects freeroam wars a lot. the difference between one who does and one who doesnt is akin to a free aimer going up against an auto aimer imo, big advantage.

[blackindia]

Suicide and Passive Mode is two of the biggest fails in GTA V for me.

 

I feel Rockstar failed to bring some major things over from GTA IV. Like option for further spawn distance. Police was less annyoing. When you died you lost your guns. There was no quick way out other then holding a grenade really. There was no Passive Mode just Friendly Fire OFF and that was a separate session.

 

I think suicide could still be in game but it should have bigger consequenses. More then being "the easy way out" it should be "the last way out".

Edited March 24, 2016 by blackindia

[Shneb]

 

I outright said I don't pvp much.

 

 

Ok then.. Clearly your opinion is not that useful.

 

Like someone who does not cook, giving cooking advice. Thanks.. but no thanks.

I mean it depends on your definition of PVP. I don't see players out but I defend myself. So it's more like cooking for yourself mainly vs cooking mainly for other people. Still cooking.

 

Inb4 you claim this analogy you started doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

 

You took the time to drive up to them, so you definitely deserve a kill huh?

 

 

What are you talking about?

 

 

Took the the time? Deserve a kill? Don't spin angles on me because i don't buy it.

 

 

Im talking about suicide spam that players use.. Not who deserves kills. If you didn't want to be killed you would not be in a public game with your wang out shooting.

Now you're not even responding to me really. Sure you've quoted me, but I outright said I don't pvp much. You're just responding to your own preconceived notions about what anyone who uses that feature is like.

I still have no reason to believe this feature even affects gameplay much. That it's worth getting worked up over.

 

suicide affects freeroam wars a lot. the difference between one who does and one who doesnt is akin to a free aimer going up against an auto aimer imo, big advantage.Care to explain how. I'd legitimately like to talk about it. Edited March 24, 2016 by Shneb

[.Vooodu.]

 

Care to explain how. I'd legitimately like to talk about it.

 

 

 

GO watch two players who spam suicide and pvp between each other

 

Then go watch one person spam suicide while the other does not.

 

Then watch two players pvp with out suicide.

 

 

That will explain everything. And..If it doesn't make sense by then.. It probably never will.

 

I pvp daily. I can see all those examples play out constantly in nearly every game i join. So for me.. its just "Oh, heres another one.. and another.. and another.. and another"

 

Its like a plague...lol

Edited March 24, 2016 by HulioG

[Jerking For Soup]

I just don't use it because i have my own code that tells me. "Don't be a bitch".

Seems you're breaking your own code by making this thread OP.

[kjonah]

its called the easy way out because the players who go the hard way will be at a disadvantage because 1, they got cops they trying to lose cuz they got into a gunfight, they taking hits, they may have took a hit off you before you ewo'd. the ewoer doesnt have the cops on him, he has full health and he has respawned into a safer zone. im not about to distinguish between the different types of ewoer there are but there are various levels but they all fall into same category, tdm nerds.

[.Vooodu.]

 

I just don't use it because i have my own code that tells me. "Don't be a bitch".

Seems you're breaking your own code by making this thread OP.

 

 

 

Making a topic about sh*tty game play mechanics and mocking said players who rely on it is part of my code... always has been. Seriously.. Where have u been?

[Furry_Monkey]

I have to thank everyone for bumping this hilarious thread. Not only are the comments comedy gold, the thread list is even funnier!

 

 

 

Please keep this on page 1 for me

[SkynetOnlineID]

Making a topic about sh*tty game play mechanics and mocking said players who rely on it is part of my code... always has been. Seriously.. Where have u been?

 

Think you might want [GTAO] The Official B*tch & Moan Topic. This thread just seems a copy of it but with more flaming of each user for having different opinions.

 

At least try to keep it civil on these forums, don't be a drama queen.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Making a topic about sh*tty game play mechanics and mocking said players who rely on it is part of my code... always has been. Seriously.. Where have u been?

 

Think you might want [GTAO] The Official B*tch & Moan Topic.

 

 

 

 

No thanks. Im not bitching about anything. So.. you know. . How about go bitch there about me...lol

Edited March 24, 2016 by HulioG

[kenmy13999]

I can understand why people are "suicide drama Queens" but I don't understand why people are drama Queens.

 

I don't kill myself every 5 seconds, but I use the easy way out occasionally if I have lots of cops around me and low health. And if my car get towed I just drive to the roof of the garage building next to the impound, and jump inside to steal it back

[Arachne]

The only way to solve this suicide problem is either make players immune to their own explosives or remove the suicide button (which is unnecessary since there's nothing that actually requires it)

 

 

I dunno, but I don't understand why people have fear of dying in a video game, it happens a lot and you'll always come back.

[Shneb]

The only way to solve this suicide problem is either make players immune to their own explosives or remove the suicide button (which is unnecessary since there's nothing that actually requires it)

 

 

I dunno, but I don't understand why people have fear of dying in a video game, it happens a lot and you'll always come back.

Wouldn't it be their lack of fear that makes them kill themselves?

[KreatiivFox]

When I read "Suicide Drama Queens", I thought this topic was about stereotypical Facebook-esque girls.

[Nomis24]

It depends on the situation. I'll use suicide whenever I'm in a tight spot and need outta dodge fast. Not gonna put myself at an disadvantage over some "moral code" bs.

 

That being said, I aint goin out like no bitch neither

That is the whole point for me. If I couldnt manage to stay out of a ''tight spot'' then I deserved to be at a disadvantage cause that was poor planning on my part.

 

It all goes down to : What was the reason suicide option was put in the game? Was it to avoid getting kill when you have a bounty on your head? No. So rockstar should patch their game so it doesnt serve that function anymore.

 

Edit: Last part was relevant to what I have posted yesterday maybe not that much with the topic

Edited March 24, 2016 by Nomis24

[johnwontscore]

They need to just take this option off the interaction menu and award a kill to the last player that damaged you if you kill yourself in any way. There are far too many cheap players around to allow this kind of option; as can be seen from its above proponents.

[GhillieMaster]

Here is a perfect example of that...

[teagle]

Here is a perfect example of that...

I really don't think that's a very good example. The video doesn't show anything that may have instigated the conflict, and during the brief gun fight you pull out your marksman and begin to use the left to right tactic which is a cheap technique to implement on someone in its own right.

[speeddemon0322]

What annoys me the most about this crap is that it is a simple fix, just make suicides count twice against their precious K-D and it will stop. Another thing that should be added on top of that is that if another player damages them before they kill themselves in any way (be it interaction menu or a rocket to the foot) that player will get credit for the kill. And finally, killing themselves when they are within a certain distance from a non-passive player should have them forfeit that bounty to that player (for the idiots who kill themselves when they have a bounty).

 

BOOM! Problem solved.

Edited March 25, 2016 by speeddemon0322

[Furry_Monkey]

 

Here is a perfect example of that...

I really don't think that's a very good example. The video doesn't show anything that may have instigated the conflict, and during the brief gun fight you pull out your marksman and begin to use the left to right tactic which is a cheap technique to implement on someone in its own right.

 

 

It doesn't matter what instigated the conflict, in my mind, but that's neither here nor there as it's the way the player "fought" that he's commenting on. That was a heavy sniper rifle, not a Marksman, and when the other player is being a lefty-righty bitch then you have no option but to do the same. As soon as he gets a hit on the guy he fires an RPG at his feet.

 

Not being funny, but have you played GTAO?

 

The response was the only mature one available. That person does not want a fight - they want to kill you and if they could come to your house and turn your TV off in order for that to happen then they would. People like that are not worth playing with. Any ifs or buts means you're part of the problem.