what will you do when heist leader being greedy ?

[Oink]

My heist, my rules:

 

10% for finale hoppers

20% for setup participants

25% for helpful setup participants

 

Finale hoppers don't deserve more. If you don't like it, leave. I will easily find another crew member who will accept my demand.

 

DON'T SUPPORT DEMANDING FINALE HOPPERS. THEY'RE RUINING THE GAME!!!

 

 

Have you ever found someone willing to play for 10%? I cannot even find randoms willing to play for 15%...greedy bastards.

[GR Choke]

 

PSJ(set ups included)

 

the heist leader asked me how much money i have

 

I told him

 

He said can you take 0% because you have alot of money

 

funny guy

This guy I add invites me to the Humane Raids Finale, and then he told me he's gonna give em 0%.

 

He thought me being level 108 meant being rich.

 

I had to fight with him for a decent cut, and he ups it... to 5%. And another random too.

 

Shiet man I take 15% cause I still get my first time bonus, but no need to go that far.

I ruined the heist right at the end when someone gave me 5%

[Id have been your dad]

 

Now i know why random heists are broken.

Most of the replies here are from frikkin greedy people.

Just think kids... The leader must wait a f*ckin lot in the lobby, sometimes a random f*cks the setup, so the leader have to wait AGAIN.

There are 5 setups, plus the finale. And you people want to win 20% , 15% (depending on the finale) by playing only a f*ckin mission?

Jumpers like you killed heists, no one joins to setups.

 

I'm arguing with facts, it's just math:

Pacific finale. Leader 70%, jumpers 10%. Why?

Leader: (700k-100k heist cost)/ 6 missions = 100k.. The same that jumpers take.

And i'm not counting all the lost time in previos lobbies....

 

Jesús Christ, some people really need education.

 

 

Do you even math?Those 'jumpers' get 26k per setup, not 100k like you are trying to tell us.Good luck finding serious people to get it done for 10%.I'd do it, but only to troll you at the very end, or something like that.

Lets be honest. Those guy play finales only, or 90% of the time.

 

If they played setups too, as finales, heists will be more playable... And cuts could be raised... But they do not play set ups...

[Soran Is On]

In with randoms...

 

no heavy vests,

 

I ready up as soon as the screen hits, leader gives 20% to one guy and shorts me and the other guy that readied up quick. (oh this should be good)

 

they proceed to treat the bank exit like a god damn foot race to the alley...

 

not even bothering to kill most the cops.

 

the 3 other assholes die 3 times before we get to the bikes including the guy with the cash (holy f)

 

I hear over the mic 'damn the kids were playing with are trash thats why this isnt working'

 

 

So I get on my mic and give them a ripe ear beating about vests and killing cops first. Then back to freemode I go.

 

 

I've begun joining randoms just to see how much they can f*ck up. It's comical.

Edited July 13, 2015 by stonedpimpso

[DonSpeedy]

Now, it depends.But usually, you get what you pay for.You pay me 10%?

Fine, I'll do the whole heist with you, help you get until the very end, and then, while we're in the boat, I'll shoot the money bag and the total take will reach a veeery low number.You'll be happy afterwards.

 

You pay me 15%?Now, it depends on my mood.I might do it with you profesionally if you don't die A LOT.I may kill you with my Insurgent.I might quit before the final cutscene.It all depends.

 

 

You give me 20%?Well, that's all I want.I'll be as serious as one can be, I'll tank all the hits, I'll lead you trough the alley, kill all the cops, and do everything right.I won't die once.

[Id have been your dad]

Now, it depends.But usually, you get what you pay for.You pay me 10%?

Fine, I'll do the whole heist with you, help you get until the very end, and then, while we're in the boat, I'll shoot the money bag and the total take will reach a veeery low number.You'll be happy afterwards.

 

You pay me 15%?Now, it depends on my mood.I might do it with you profesionally if you don't die A LOT.I may kill you with my Insurgent.I might quit before the final cutscene.It all depends.

 

 

You give me 20%?Well, that's all I want.I'll be as serious as one can be, I'll tank all the hits, I'll lead you trough the alley, kill all the cops, and do everything right.I won't die once.

Then you should act like a pro. Like a gentleman.. you don't want the cut? Fine, Just quit.

People sometimes take cuts like something personal. But no, i'm always trying to be fair with everyone, at least i try. I just want the same as everybody. Thats why i think a 70% is fair only in last mission. And i already explained why

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

My heist, my rules:

 

10% for finale hoppers

20% for setup participants

25% for helpful setup participants

 

Finale hoppers don't deserve more. If you don't like it, leave. I will easily find another crew member who will accept my demand.

 

DON'T SUPPORT DEMANDING FINALE HOPPERS. THEY'RE RUINING THE GAME!!!

u serious about the cut ?

Yes and it is fair. Finale hoppers are ruining the game.

it's just a game , i don't take it seriously

[DonSpeedy]

 

Now, it depends.But usually, you get what you pay for.You pay me 10%?

Fine, I'll do the whole heist with you, help you get until the very end, and then, while we're in the boat, I'll shoot the money bag and the total take will reach a veeery low number.You'll be happy afterwards.

 

You pay me 15%?Now, it depends on my mood.I might do it with you profesionally if you don't die A LOT.I may kill you with my Insurgent.I might quit before the final cutscene.It all depends.

 

 

You give me 20%?Well, that's all I want.I'll be as serious as one can be, I'll tank all the hits, I'll lead you trough the alley, kill all the cops, and do everything right.I won't die once.

Then you should act like a pro. Like a gentleman.. you don't want the cut? Fine, Just quit.

People sometimes take cuts like something personal. But no, i'm always trying to be fair with everyone, at least i try. I just want the same as everybody. Thats why i think a 70% is fair only in last mission. And i already explained why

 

 

 

Well...70% on Pacific Standard finale..?That's just...crazy.

Even if you split 40-20-20-20 you still make more money than the crew members do, thinking they did all the setups with you.

 

 

Yeah, inside this game, we're all criminals.Criminals aren't fair.But please, don't make it appear like what you do is the 'fair, universal way'.It is not.If you wanna show your fellow heist mates you respect them and you value them, you give them 20% even if they're finale hoppers.

I for example, am a semi-finale-hopper.I don't usually join Signal or Vans set-ups.Because maybe you'll be surprised but they are extremely boooring, and if someone screw up...well..

If the hosts and his crew are serious I might play with them even all the setups if I happen to accept a Vans setup.But usually I'm just minding my stuff, repainting my cars, when a finale invites pop up.

[Sky_Light12]

 

Now, it depends.But usually, you get what you pay for.You pay me 10%?

Fine, I'll do the whole heist with you, help you get until the very end, and then, while we're in the boat, I'll shoot the money bag and the total take will reach a veeery low number.You'll be happy afterwards.

 

You pay me 15%?Now, it depends on my mood.I might do it with you profesionally if you don't die A LOT.I may kill you with my Insurgent.I might quit before the final cutscene.It all depends.

 

 

You give me 20%?Well, that's all I want.I'll be as serious as one can be, I'll tank all the hits, I'll lead you trough the alley, kill all the cops, and do everything right.I won't die once.

Then you should act like a pro. Like a gentleman.. you don't want the cut? Fine, Just quit.

People sometimes take cuts like something personal. But no, i'm always trying to be fair with everyone, at least i try. I just want the same as everybody. Thats why i think a 70% is fair only in last mission. And i already explained why

i consider 15% cut is fair to me because default

if i were a host , i wouldn't mind to give 25% to everyone

[Big_Show]

 

 

Now i know why random heists are broken.

Most of the replies here are from frikkin greedy people.

Just think kids... The leader must wait a f*ckin lot in the lobby, sometimes a random f*cks the setup, so the leader have to wait AGAIN.

There are 5 setups, plus the finale. And you people want to win 20% , 15% (depending on the finale) by playing only a f*ckin mission?

Jumpers like you killed heists, no one joins to setups.

 

I'm arguing with facts, it's just math:

Pacific finale. Leader 70%, jumpers 10%. Why?

Leader: (700k-100k heist cost)/ 6 missions = 100k.. The same that jumpers take.

And i'm not counting all the lost time in previos lobbies....

 

Jesús Christ, some people really need education.

 

 

Do you even math?Those 'jumpers' get 26k per setup, not 100k like you are trying to tell us.Good luck finding serious people to get it done for 10%.I'd do it, but only to troll you at the very end, or something like that.

Lets be honest. Those guy play finales only, or 90% of the time.

 

If they played setups too, as finales, heists will be more playable... And cuts could be raised... But they do not play set ups...

 

 

 

Lets be honest you need the educating. Pac Standard finale take is $1,250000, 70% is $875000, 10% is 125000. So you expect to get $775000 while the others only get $125000?

 

 

40/20/20/20 is the fairest split, as you get $500k slightly above what the heist crew would take if they went all the way through with you.

 

As Don said good luck finding a decent crew. You'll never find a crew that can take the full $1,250000 every time. You're dreaming buddy.

Edited July 13, 2015 by The_Big_Show

[UKPortista]

As Heist leader I pay 25% to each member regardless and that's what I expect to be paid when I'm working for someone else.

 

If you pay peanuts.....

[DonSpeedy]

 

Now, it depends.But usually, you get what you pay for.You pay me 10%?

Fine, I'll do the whole heist with you, help you get until the very end, and then, while we're in the boat, I'll shoot the money bag and the total take will reach a veeery low number.You'll be happy afterwards.

 

You pay me 15%?Now, it depends on my mood.I might do it with you profesionally if you don't die A LOT.I may kill you with my Insurgent.I might quit before the final cutscene.It all depends.

 

 

You give me 20%?Well, that's all I want.I'll be as serious as one can be, I'll tank all the hits, I'll lead you trough the alley, kill all the cops, and do everything right.I won't die once.

Then you should act like a pro. Like a gentleman.. you don't want the cut? Fine, Just quit.

People sometimes take cuts like something personal. But no, i'm always trying to be fair with everyone, at least i try. I just want the same as everybody. Thats why i think a 70% is fair only in last mission. And i already explained why

 

 

 

double post, lol.

Edited July 13, 2015 by DonSpeedy

[Id have been your dad]

 

 

 

Now i know why random heists are broken.

Most of the replies here are from frikkin greedy people.

Just think kids... The leader must wait a f*ckin lot in the lobby, sometimes a random f*cks the setup, so the leader have to wait AGAIN.

There are 5 setups, plus the finale. And you people want to win 20% , 15% (depending on the finale) by playing only a f*ckin mission?

Jumpers like you killed heists, no one joins to setups.

 

I'm arguing with facts, it's just math:

Pacific finale. Leader 70%, jumpers 10%. Why?

Leader: (700k-100k heist cost)/ 6 missions = 100k.. The same that jumpers take.

And i'm not counting all the lost time in previos lobbies....

 

Jesús Christ, some people really need education.

 

 

Do you even math?Those 'jumpers' get 26k per setup, not 100k like you are trying to tell us.Good luck finding serious people to get it done for 10%.I'd do it, but only to troll you at the very end, or something like that.

Lets be honest. Those guy play finales only, or 90% of the time.

 

If they played setups too, as finales, heists will be more playable... And cuts could be raised... But they do not play set ups...

 

 

Lets be honest you need the educating. Pac Standard finale take is $1,250000, 70% is $875000, 10% is 125000. So you expect to get $775000 while the others only get $125000?

 

 

40/20/20/20 is the fairest split, as you get $500k slightly above what the heist crew would take if they went all the way through with you.

 

As Don said good luck finding a decent crew. You'll never find a crew that can take the full $1,250000 every time. You're dreaming buddy.

Yes, i expect to win 5 times more because i did 5 more missions.

But randoms want 20%, and with 15% i'm winning the triple only... The triple for 6 missions. (6/3=2)

I did in 2 missions the cash that they did in one mission.

 

If we compare, they are winning more than me even with the default valué (15%). If i set 15% they are making double money, and i'm still not taking in consideration all the time i spend during the setups (death and active time)

Edited July 13, 2015 by Id have been your dad

[Colbydogs]

LOL at the word greed......last time I checked, the host is the one in control of the cut. So if anyone is greedy, its the host, not the hired help.

 

And all this 70% talk is straight up BS. That right there is the definition of greed. You want 70% vs me wanting 20% ? Who's the greedy f*uck there ? And then you wonder why no one joins your set-ups or heist. I normally would not nor do I troll, but in your 70% vs my 10%, scenario, i'll gladly make an exception in your case and kill you in the process of failing your heist in the most spectacular way possible. This is also why you f*cks have no friends and the whole reason as to why you need to rely on randoms to complete your heists.

 

You greedy ass hosts are what has ruined heists for randoms, not randoms ruining things. It must be awfully lonely in your lobby.....good luck with that. I'll just move on to the next heist invite and get paid while you're still sitting in your vacant lobby crying because you're broke and friendless.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Colbydogs

[Big_Show]

 

 

 

 

Now i know why random heists are broken.

Most of the replies here are from frikkin greedy people.

Just think kids... The leader must wait a f*ckin lot in the lobby, sometimes a random f*cks the setup, so the leader have to wait AGAIN.

There are 5 setups, plus the finale. And you people want to win 20% , 15% (depending on the finale) by playing only a f*ckin mission?

Jumpers like you killed heists, no one joins to setups.

 

I'm arguing with facts, it's just math:

Pacific finale. Leader 70%, jumpers 10%. Why?

Leader: (700k-100k heist cost)/ 6 missions = 100k.. The same that jumpers take.

And i'm not counting all the lost time in previos lobbies....

 

Jesús Christ, some people really need education.

 

 

Do you even math?Those 'jumpers' get 26k per setup, not 100k like you are trying to tell us.Good luck finding serious people to get it done for 10%.I'd do it, but only to troll you at the very end, or something like that.

Lets be honest. Those guy play finales only, or 90% of the time.

 

If they played setups too, as finales, heists will be more playable... And cuts could be raised... But they do not play set ups...

 

 

Lets be honest you need the educating. Pac Standard finale take is $1,250000, 70% is $875000, 10% is 125000. So you expect to get $775000 while the others only get $125000?

 

 

40/20/20/20 is the fairest split, as you get $500k slightly above what the heist crew would take if they went all the way through with you.

 

As Don said good luck finding a decent crew. You'll never find a crew that can take the full $1,250000 every time. You're dreaming buddy.

Yes, i expect to win 5 times more because i did 5 more missions.

But randoms want 20%, and with 15% i'm winning the triple only... The triple for 6 missions. (6/3=2)

I did in 2 missions the cash that they did in one mission.

 

If we compare, they are winning more than me even with the default valué (15%). If i set 15% they are making double money, and i'm still not taking in consideration all the time i spend during the setups (death and active time)

 

 

Like i said you're dreaming buddy!

[Claptrap NL]

I'll ask them to set it to 40/20/20/20, please, and if they still won't then I just leave. The funniest reaction to that was a guy who'd been trying to set it to 70/10/10/10, and when I asked him to change it to 40/20/20/20, he instead opted for 70/20/5/5, with me getting the 20 (the other 2 were very low levels). So I still left. Either everyone gets a fair cut, or I'm out.

I totally agree with you.

Once had a host from Belgium who called me greedy for asking why he gave himself 70% and the rest 10%.

LMFAO about his reaction. Calling me greedy while you give yourself 70 xD

[gesundheit581]

I would just leave.

[Id have been your dad]

I just used math. It's ok if you do not want to see the truth. I respect your opinión but i can't share it because it's only and opinión. You guys are not saying numbers like i do.

 

But again i respect it.

[Colbydogs]

26k x 5 = 130k

finale, at 40/20/20/20

Host 500k

crew 250k

add 130k to 250k = 380k for crew

minus 100k for start-up, host = 400k

The host walks away with 20k more than the crew, start to finish

 

That is how you do math

 

P.S. We do not care if we helped in the set-ups or not. Fact remains, someone else did, you screwed them over, you owe that 20% to somebody and that somebody is now us, the people you spam invited to your finale.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Colbydogs

[Giantsgiants]

After running into a few greedy leaders, this is what I do.

 

1. Try and get the other randoms into it.
2. Use my slowest vehicle as my heist vehicle.
3. Fail near the end in some way. If the host gets suspicious, I tell him that something's glitching for me, and then suggest him to raise the cuts to see if that fixes it.

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

I would leave as well.

 

Thankfully, I've omly had a handful of leaders that try to screw their helpers. Most are happy to leave it as it is 55/15/15/15. The next is 40/20/20/20 and finally even a few who straight up 25% everyone.

 

I think greedy people have figured it's harder to get the heists done if you want all the cash. I've only ever hosted Fleeca and I still get tools who don't think 40% is enough. Like, chit, I just ponied up 11k to get this thing going and you want equal take? Ha, think again.

 

Leave for anything less than 15% and send a thank you to the host afterwards if he is any more generous than that.

[Id have been your dad]

26k x 5 = 130k

finale, at 40/20/20/20

Host 500k

crew 250k

add 130k to 250k = 380k for crew

minus 100k for start-up, host = 400k

The host walks away with 20k more than the crew, start to finish

 

That is how you do math

 

P.S. We do not care if we helped in the set-ups or not. Fact remains, someone else did, you screwed them over, you owe that 20% to somebody and that somebody is now us, the people you spam invited to your finale.

The best response so far to my math, BUT you manipulated numbers to your benefit.

You are mistaken in 1 thing. You are counting previous people that have nothing to do with this. They agree to do that setup for that payment, you can't mix that and expect to be payed like if you do setups. Because, again, i'm talking about jumpers only, jumpers do not do setups, so you can't count the payment previously done, because you do not do setups

[BamaGoodfella]

Yes, i expect to win 5 times more because i did 5 more missions.

But randoms want 20%, and with 15% i'm winning the triple only... The triple for 6 missions. (6/3=2)

I did in 2 missions the cash that they did in one mission.

 

If we compare, they are winning more than me even with the default valué (15%). If i set 15% they are making double money, and i'm still not taking in consideration all the time i spend during the setups (death and active time)

 

 

I'll help you with your math before someone on here attacks you. My numbers are based on completing Pacific Standard on Hard difficulty with no money lost

 

70/10/10/10 Split:

 

Your cut: (70% of $1.25 million dollars = $875,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $775,000

Your crew: (10% of $1.25 million dollars = $125,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $255,650

You make over 3 times what your crew members do.

 

55/15/15/15 Split:

 

Your cut: (55% of $1.25 million dollars = $687,500) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $587,500

Your crew: (15% of $1.25 million dollars = $187,500) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $318,150

You make over 1.8 times what your crew members do.

 

40/20/20/20 Split:

 

Your cut: (40% of $1.25 million dollars = $500,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $400,000

Your crew: (20% of $1.25 million dollars = $250,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $380,650

You make $19,350 more than what your crew members do.

 

While you argue that the host deserves a larger cut than 40% due to time wasted, the same argument could be made by "finale hoppers" that they deserve more because they've done numerous setups with random hosts only to get kicked at the finale so the host's friends can reap the rewards of their work thereby getting screwed over. Regardless of whether someone was there for the setups or not, most people expect equitable pay. While randoms that didn't help with setups may accept a 15% cut, offering anything less than that is just begging to have your heist trolled & failed.

[Big_Show]

 

26k x 5 = 130k

finale, at 40/20/20/20

Host 500k

crew 250k

add 130k to 250k = 380k for crew

minus 100k for start-up, host = 400k

The host walks away with 20k more than the crew, start to finish

 

That is how you do math

 

P.S. We do not care if we helped in the set-ups or not. Fact remains, someone else did, you screwed them over, you owe that 20% to somebody and that somebody is now us, the people you spam invited to your finale.

The best response so far to my math, BUT you manipulated numbers to your benefit.

You are mistaken in 1 thing. You are counting previous people that have nothing to do with this. They agree to do that setup for that payment, you can't mix that and expect to be payed like if you do setups. Because, again, i'm talking about jumpers only, jumpers do not do setups, so you can't count the payment previously done, because you do not do setups

 

 

Come on, manipulating the numbers? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. No one here agrees with you math "logic", further more I agree to do the heist setups in the knowledge I'll be invited to the finale. And just how do you distinguish a jumper compared with a normal heist player such as myself?

[Id have been your dad]

 

Yes, i expect to win 5 times more because i did 5 more missions.But randoms want 20%, and with 15% i'm winning the triple only... The triple for 6 missions. (6/3=2)

I did in 2 missions the cash that they did in one mission.

 

If we compare, they are winning more than me even with the default valué (15%). If i set 15% they are making double money, and i'm still not taking in consideration all the time i spend during the setups (death and active time)

 

I'll help you with your math before someone on here attacks you. My numbers are based on completing Pacific Standard on Hard difficulty with no money lost

 

70/10/10/10 Split:

 

Your cut: (70% of $1.25 million dollars = $875,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $775,000

Your crew: (10% of $1.25 million dollars = $125,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $255,650

You make over 3 times what your crew members do.

 

55/15/15/15 Split:

 

Your cut: (55% of $1.25 million dollars = $687,500) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $587,500

Your crew: (15% of $1.25 million dollars = $187,500) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $318,150

You make over 1.8 times what your crew members do.

 

40/20/20/20 Split:

 

Your cut: (40% of $1.25 million dollars = $500,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $400,000

Your crew: (20% of $1.25 million dollars = $250,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $380,650

You make $19,350 more than what your crew members do.

 

While you argue that the host deserves a larger cut than 40% due to time wasted, the same argument could be made by "finale hoppers" that they deserve more because they've done numerous setups with random hosts only to get kicked at the finale so the host's friends can reap the rewards of their work thereby getting screwed over. Regardless of whether someone was there for the setups or not, most people expect equitable pay. While randoms that didn't help with setups may accept a 15% cut, offering anything less than that is just begging to have your heist trolled & failed.

 

Your math is based in normal people, not in jumpers. Because, AGAIN. Jumpers DO NOT do SETUPS

[Id have been your dad]

 

 

26k x 5 = 130k

finale, at 40/20/20/20

Host 500k

crew 250k

add 130k to 250k = 380k for crew

minus 100k for start-up, host = 400k

The host walks away with 20k more than the crew, start to finish

 

That is how you do math

 

P.S. We do not care if we helped in the set-ups or not. Fact remains, someone else did, you screwed them over, you owe that 20% to somebody and that somebody is now us, the people you spam invited to your finale.

The best response so far to my math, BUT you manipulated numbers to your benefit.

You are mistaken in 1 thing. You are counting previous people that have nothing to do with this. They agree to do that setup for that payment, you can't mix that and expect to be payed like if you do setups. Because, again, i'm talking about jumpers only, jumpers do not do setups, so you can't count the payment previously done, because you do not do setups

 

Come on, manipulating the numbers? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. No one here agrees with you math "logic", further more I agree to do the heist setups in the knowledge I'll be invited to the finale. And just how do you distinguish a jumper compared with a normal heist player such as myself?

1. You are sayin you do setups only if THEY INVITE YOU. Sorry but most of the time you are a jumper.

 

2. In fact, you don't know if someone is a jumper, if he joins instantly i'm pretty sure it is. But yeah i maybe mistaken. But most of the people that play finales are jumpers. It's probability, there's more chance that i play with a jumper. I don't want to benefit him more than me because this way no one will do setups and host matches.

[Big_Show]

Your math is based in normal people, not in jumpers. Because, AGAIN. Jumpers DO NOT do SETUPS

 

1. You are sayin you do setups only if THEY INVITE YOU. Sorry but most of the time you are a jumper.

 

2. In fact, you don't know if someone is a jumper, if he joins instantly i'm pretty sure it is. But yeah i maybe mistaken. But most of the people that play finales are jumpers. It's probability, there's more chance that i play with a jumper. I don't want to benefit him more than me because this way no one will do setups and host matches.

 

Edited July 13, 2015 by The_Big_Show

[BamaGoodfella]

 

 

Yes, i expect to win 5 times more because i did 5 more missions.But randoms want 20%, and with 15% i'm winning the triple only... The triple for 6 missions. (6/3=2)

I did in 2 missions the cash that they did in one mission.

 

If we compare, they are winning more than me even with the default valué (15%). If i set 15% they are making double money, and i'm still not taking in consideration all the time i spend during the setups (death and active time)

 

I'll help you with your math before someone on here attacks you. My numbers are based on completing Pacific Standard on Hard difficulty with no money lost

 

70/10/10/10 Split:

 

Your cut: (70% of $1.25 million dollars = $875,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $775,000

Your crew: (10% of $1.25 million dollars = $125,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $255,650

You make over 3 times what your crew members do.

 

55/15/15/15 Split:

 

Your cut: (55% of $1.25 million dollars = $687,500) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $587,500

Your crew: (15% of $1.25 million dollars = $187,500) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $318,150

You make over 1.8 times what your crew members do.

 

40/20/20/20 Split:

 

Your cut: (40% of $1.25 million dollars = $500,000) - ($100,000 setup fee) + ($0 for setup missions) = $400,000

Your crew: (20% of $1.25 million dollars = $250,000) - ($0 setup fee) + ($26,130 x 5 setups) = $380,650

You make $19,350 more than what your crew members do.

 

While you argue that the host deserves a larger cut than 40% due to time wasted, the same argument could be made by "finale hoppers" that they deserve more because they've done numerous setups with random hosts only to get kicked at the finale so the host's friends can reap the rewards of their work thereby getting screwed over. Regardless of whether someone was there for the setups or not, most people expect equitable pay. While randoms that didn't help with setups may accept a 15% cut, offering anything less than that is just begging to have your heist trolled & failed.

 

Your math is based in normal people, not in jumpers. Because, AGAIN. Jumpers DO NOT do SETUPS

 

 

Read the bold part of my post again. Regardless of whether or not they did the setups with you, paying anything less than 15% is just begging to be trolled or have a crew member leave after failing once (whether the failure was on purpose or not).

[SaltyGTAFMember]

 

 

 

26k x 5 = 130k

finale, at 40/20/20/20

Host 500k

crew 250k

add 130k to 250k = 380k for crew

minus 100k for start-up, host = 400k

The host walks away with 20k more than the crew, start to finish

 

That is how you do math

 

P.S. We do not care if we helped in the set-ups or not. Fact remains, someone else did, you screwed them over, you owe that 20% to somebody and that somebody is now us, the people you spam invited to your finale.

The best response so far to my math, BUT you manipulated numbers to your benefit.

You are mistaken in 1 thing. You are counting previous people that have nothing to do with this. They agree to do that setup for that payment, you can't mix that and expect to be payed like if you do setups. Because, again, i'm talking about jumpers only, jumpers do not do setups, so you can't count the payment previously done, because you do not do setups

 

Come on, manipulating the numbers? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. No one here agrees with you math "logic", further more I agree to do the heist setups in the knowledge I'll be invited to the finale. And just how do you distinguish a jumper compared with a normal heist player such as myself?

1. You are sayin you do setups only if THEY INVITE YOU. Sorry but most of the time you are a jumper.

 

2. In fact, you don't know if someone is a jumper, if he joins instantly i'm pretty sure it is. But yeah i maybe mistaken. But most of the people that play finales are jumpers. It's probability, there's more chance that i play with a jumper. I don't want to benefit him more than me because this way no one will do setups and host matches.

 

Actually if you look to the right it has everyone that helped named.(the one with the medals on it)

[CJPNE]

I usually play them because 90% of the time someone dies so I just leave instead of restarting.