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Is 25% too much to ask for a high level?


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Your logic makes absolutely 0 sense, you claim you're rich yet you're complaining about payouts in a heist. Just buy some f**cking shark cards and be done with it! I also find it complexly idiot and child like to go out of your way to sabotage a heist because you didn't get "fair pay" (aw boohoo, lvl 500 mercenary girl didn't get her cut) when you probably could have found a heist leader willing to negotiate in that time. Let me tell you something, the heist leader has to pay for that sh*t, deal with the stupidity of randoms, deal with the sh*t servers, and then after hours of NO PAY, some ungrateful greedy little sh*t comes in (who probably finale hops, ooh we should make that a term) and starts demanding money. I say you take your damn 15% and like it because you wouldn't even get more than 20% if you had been with me from set up #1.

The thing is, op is spoiled. Even if they are "rich", they feel entitled to higher payouts.

 

I tell you for a "retired" person, she started this thread, caught heat about it, and hasn't came back. High level mostly means they have no life ( if they got it legit ) So why are you op? Probably swiming in her money valut?

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Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?

Heist leader recoups the setup costs. I mentioned it. You need to grind up your Smartass stat. I think Golf is the quickest way since the update.

 

Sigh..do you not see my other posts? God, i feel your pain. How bad it must be to be illiterate and horrible at mathematics at the same time.

 

 

 

Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?
Did you read his post?...

40/20/20/20

Did you??

 

40/20/20 is not gonna cut ( no pun intended) if everyone is poor. Its slightly meh for prison break but its hardly from even. For prison break it should be between 40 and 50, excluding 40. For the other following heists, the leader payout must increase.

I don't quite get what's not clear. I'm saying 40/20 is the closest divvy that gives the leader the same cash as the crew while recovering the set up cost.

 

25% across the board means that the leader effectively eats the set up cost. In my crew, our weathier guys run the heists because we can absorb the $40-50K, but we're doing it for the crew.

 

With randoms, while I still think 25% is fair, i don't expect leaders to take the hit, so to speak, and so would accept a 20% cut. But 15% means that out of a 400K score the leader takes home 220K while the crew gets 60K for the exact same effort? Screw that - you'd make more money just joining setup missions and leaving greedy heist leaders stalled at finales. Is that the world we want? Keep gouging your crews and it's what we'll get.

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I'm in my 30's, retired and rich, you? Why would I need real life skills with all that?

 

 

 

 

 

You can be anything you like on the internet, sweetie. For all anyone knows you could be a crusty 60-year old man who is financially destitute. Regardless, anyone boasting such things on a message board is usually far from that particular situation in reality.

Ever heard of the saying "More money than sence"?...

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SkylineGTRFreak

I think Leader 40, crew 20 is Kind of fair if you consider the setup costs and setup payouts only the crewmembers get. I still went with 25% each time so far tho, I only want to buy the Savage at this point and have 2.5 Million so I can spare some extra grands

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xXOsamaBinLamaXx

I give crew members 20% to be nice. But I feel like they deserve 15 considering the time it took to fill up lobbies for all the setup missions, and play them.

I'd give a player a bigger slice of the cake if I knew that they'd be good. If they played the setup missions with me and proved that they have skill.

However if you join the heist finale expecting 25% or more, I'm kicking you right the f*ck out.

Your rank doesn't prove a goddamn thing. I had a random with 500+ rank who destroyed the velum twice and then left in the Prison Break heist.

How the actual f*ck would I know that you have skill?

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Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?
Did you read his post?...

40/20/20/20

Did you??

 

40/20/20 is not gonna cut ( no pun intended) if everyone is poor. Its slightly meh for prison break but its hardly from even. For prison break it should be between 40 and 50, excluding 40. For the other following heists, the leader payout must increase.

I don't quite get what's not clear. I'm saying 40/20 is the closest divvy that gives the leader the same cash as the crew while recovering the set up cost.

 

25% across the board means that the leader effectively eats the set up cost. In my crew, our weathier guys run the heists because we can absorb the $40-50K, but we're doing it for the crew.

 

With randoms, while I still think 25% is fair, i don't expect leaders to take the hit, so to speak, and so would accept a 20% cut. But 15% means that out of a 400K score the leader takes home 220K while the crew gets 60K for the exact same effort? Screw that - you'd make more money just joining setup missions and leaving greedy heist leaders stalled at finales. Is that the world we want? Keep gouging your crews and it's what we'll get.

 

In the 400k example that you use, you are not including the setup cost nor the setup payments. And therefore, that is why you are wrong. The only way your system would work is if you do a heist finale with players that did not do any of the setup missions beforehand.

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Wildfire_08

I'm in my 30's, retired and rich, you? Why would I need real life skills with all that?

 

 

Haha, what a dipsh*t.

 

"Why would I need real life skills" you realise that you're very attitude in that one sentence completely cancels the possibility of you being "rich & retired" in your 30s.

 

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Come back OP! Stay & play, we're not done with you yet!

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It's either 25% each or more for the host, both are fair.

 

 

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but even if you were the best ever player to grace San Andreas with your presence the chances of failure are barely affected. If everyone plays well then completion is easy, if one plays poorly chances of completion are extremely low, that's just the way it is, it's not about the strongest link in heists, it's about the weakest.

 

Get over yourself.

A high level for me is over 500. I'm lvl 652.

I don't mind playing the prison break over and over again with whatever.

With someone like me, chances of failure are almost zero.

 

So far most ppl have agreed with my price.

Some did not. To them, I said ok go on, give me whatever.

Last one who didn't want to pay, this is what I did:

Near the end of the prison break heist, I was the pilot.

 

I flew that thing right in the ocean and told the host:

Next time, gimme my price and I left.

I know it's a dick move but this is why I'm asking:

Is 25% too much to ask for a high level who knows what the hell she is doing?

 

 

 

Who the f*ck let you out of the kitchen, your attitude f*cking stinks, a high level does not make a good player, it makes a loser with way too much free time on their hands, no 25% is not acceptable, did you pay the set up cost, nope, did you do all of the set up missions for free, nope, so f*ck off with this 25% bollocks, 20% MAX EVER!!!! Unless you are the host then 40% MIN EVER.

What a selfish little princess, who thinks far to highly of themselves, I am so glad that i have a decent crew to do the heists with and not greedy people like you, no get back in that kitchen and make me a sandwich.

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NotoriousJDP

The level system IS the only indicator of experience but it is so flawed.

 

Like with most games that use a level/xp system, level just reflects how much you've played...not your skill level.

 

Edit: And 40/20/20/20 is probably the most fair but giving everyone 25% makes them feel equal and important and saves headaches.

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A high level for me is over 500. I'm lvl 652.

With someone like me, chances of failure are almost zero.

 

Badass... badass..... :yawn:

 

High level just means you got no life, not that you're that good.

No reason to get cocky (maybe wrong choice of word).

On heists 3, 4 and 5 the host actually makes less cash than the others if he sets the take at 40/20/20/20 assuming the setup missions were done on hard.

 

Math is hard and sometimes the greedy person is the one demanding a 20% cut so the host gets shafted.

trainerdave

Anything from 15%-20% is fair. The Host deserves a larger cut because they aren't earning $$$ throughout setup missions like the other 3 do.My Crew ran the Prison Break Heist last night and finally beat with many comical errors along the way. I was the leader and split everyone 25%. I should have adjusted it, but since it was my Crew it's wasn't as big of a deal to me.

 

In general; if I were to join you for a Heist 15%-20% would be required. Simply put I am putting in my time and taking a risk playing with 3 randoms to spend/waste 2-3 hours only to have someone troll the whole thing. Joining a Heist blind can be very frustrating not knowing the competency level of the 3 other "randoms". Basically if you want me to help, make it worth my while. 10% or $50,000 on the a 2-3 hour Heist isn't worth it. I can grind missions myself and make that happen.

 

You guys that are struggling with randoms, if I am online send me a Heist request on Xbox One. GT: TRDAVE

Why I deserve 20% cut:

-Use a mic and communicate constantly

-Tactical player

-Will not troll or sabotage the Heist in any way

-Willing to support and offer advice if needed

-Will keep going until we get the job done

Why I deserve 15% cut:

-Maybe not the best shot, but gets the job done

-Will make errors and have died that end up killing the Heist (But who hasn't)

Gave my crew 20% last night on the Humane labs raid and still lost about 40k to ammo. So even 20% is making host pay for his own ammo considering the crew made 125k for the setup missions and I did not, they got reimbursed for ammo on set up missions and I did not. I'll still pay 20% though don't mind eating set up cost and ammo but i'll be helping others much more than hosting i think

 

I'm in my 30's, retired and rich, you? Why would I need real life skills with all that?

 

 

High class prostitute? I seem to remember that was Jamie-Lee Curtis's life plan in Trading Places...

 

 

Most likely a trust fund baby.

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