Is 25% too much to ask for a high level?

[Conici]

Its a game, you're not some skilled merchant for hire you're just a douche.

 

Deal with it.

[Hit by Lightning]

Try to go out and use some fresh air!

 

[Mr. Crowley]

 

Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?

Did you read his post?...

 

40/20/20/20

[FiVEOHFiVE]

Your logic makes absolutely 0 sense, you claim you're rich yet you're complaining about payouts in a heist. Just buy some f**cking shark cards and be done with it! I also find it complexly idiot and child like to go out of your way to sabotage a heist because you didn't get "fair pay" (aw boohoo, lvl 500 mercenary girl didn't get her cut) when you probably could have found a heist leader willing to negotiate in that time. Let me tell you something, the heist leader has to pay for that sh*t, deal with the stupidity of randoms, deal with the sh*t servers, and then after hours of NO PAY, some ungrateful greedy little sh*t comes in (who probably finale hops, ooh we should make that a term) and starts demanding money. I say you take your damn 15% and like it because you wouldn't even get more than 20% if you had been with me from set up #1.

[grimper12341]

If it's randoms, I think the default cut is fine. Considering how much sh*t the host had to go through to get to the finale (the waiting, the crashes, the freezes, the people leaving, the waiting, the people dying), I have no problem taking that 55%, or accepting my 15% if I joined someone else. If it's friends or crew that have have stuck with you through all the setups though, then it's a different story, and the cut should be distributed more fairly.

 

 

 

I also don't think you should get a higher cut because you're a higher level.

 

 

With someone like me, chances of failure are almost zero.

 

That's bullsh*t and everyone knows it, *everyone* has to do their job properly for the heist to go well.

I've had heists where a lvl 20 was the star of the show simply because he was careful and didn't rush, and he's now on my friend list despite only having been playing for a few weeks.

Edited March 13, 2015 by grimper12341

[YaDoesntHaveToCallMeRay]

A high level for me is over 500. I'm lvl 652.

I don't mind playing the prison break over and over again with whatever.

With someone like me, chances of failure are almost zero.

 

So far most ppl have agreed with my price.

Some did not. To them, I said ok go on, give me whatever.

Last one who didn't want to pay, this is what I did:

Near the end of the prison break heist, I was the pilot.

 

I flew that thing right in the ocean and told the host:

Next time, gimme my price and I left.

I know it's a dick move but this is why I'm asking:

Is 25% too much to ask for a high level who knows what the hell she is doing?

 

 

 

 

Where did you find a headset that fits your swole head?

With 4 players, everyone should be getting at least 20%-25%. Anyone who says otherwise is a greedy asshole, so no. It's the fair amount to ask.

Something like 50, then yeah that's a bit too much.

And just who pays the $60K to start up the heist? Some of you guys must have flunked, or for squeekers, are flunking math.

[K.Walters]

If you split it 25%*4 then the leadr is in a loss, because he put money upfront. I think 40.20.20.20 is the fairest.

[rtv190]

0% is juuuuust right for a guy of your lvl

[The_Dude_NwA]

I'm in my 30's, retired and rich, you? Why would I need real life skills with all that?

 

yip on the internet but in real life....

 

 

 

 

25% bet the fire brigade couldn't hoist 25% of ur ass out the window... level 600+ explained ;P

 

 

 

[Juicyfer]

Am I an asshole for giving cuts depending on people's levels, skill and the job they'll do? I mean, in Prison Break there's no way in hell I'm giving the pilot more than 15%. Literally all he has to do is fly while Demolition saves him.

 

If my guard is under 60, I'll give him 15% as well. I'm not going to give a big cut to a player that will be on the front lines without that max health bonus unless I know they're useful.

 

The only way I'm giving someone 25% is if they're my friend and we're doing an even run or if that person stuck with me during all the prep missions (hell, I even gave someone 30% of the cut for helping me out).

 

But give 25% to a random asshat just because his level is high? It's more likely that I'll grow a third nipple before that happens.

[MarkNuttGod]

Get less than 20% just sabatoge the heist

[Pichon617]

Who ever is the LEADER/HOST for the heist DOES NOT get any $$$ during the set up missions that's why the cut is always 55/15/15/15. The 3 other players are making $$$ the whole way thru the heist while LEADER/HOST only makes his cut at the along with the rest of crew 25% is too much. I tell my 3 crew members that they have 50% to split between them & if they can't agree on how to split it. I tell them who ever gets the best total set up trophies gets the extra 5%.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Pichon617

[TeammateHelper]

Someone please call the mods to clean up. This is going off the tracks.

 

But honestly? Unless it's 40-20-20-20 or 25-25-25-25 and then you call it fair, I would love to know where you studied math so we can have that school closed.

Edited March 13, 2015 by TeammateAssist

[justinlynch3]

By rights the host is entitled to a little more then the crew as the host has to (1) pay the upfront heist cost and (2) is not paid for the completion of set up jobs. So if a host go even 25% on all players (which I admit i have been doing), then he's actually making the least amount of money out of the entire crew.

 

So is 25% of the cut a lot? For the host yes. If a host wants 30-35% giving the rest a smaller value then it's perfectly reasonable and your a dick for sabotaging the missions.

 

The only time you should "teach a lesson" is if the host is trying to rip you off. If he's asking 50% or more it's greed and the others isn't isn't getting paid what they should.

[Kaber]

SHARK CARDS!!

[rtv190]

plz Raavi we need dumbass control

[Maverickfoxx]

pay should be determined by order of effectiveness. if you're a random who only joined in the finale, expect a lower cut than those who stuck in for the long haul to get all the prep work done. or visa versa, if you're a random who caused every single prep mission to have to be restarted at least once, then you'll be getting a lower cut cause thats all you're worth.

[rtv190]

200TH POST YEAAAAAAAAA

[M.K.N.]

While I normally don't complain regarding a higher cut, the players with low ranks and with no experience in Heists makes me wish I could've easily done everything on my own on Heists. The players I met are scatterbrained and often ends up killing themselves while I myself am still alive, doing what I can to defend them. Really, I do. Yet they can't defend themselves from not using cover, running headlong into a line of fire, or even stupidly destroying an important vehicle (Velum from the Prison Break). And yet they get a higher cut? Its like the Heist leader was too naive into trusting a low-ranked and inexperienced player(s) into thinking they can do a better job than other higher-ranked players. But, that's just my experience. I'm not even complaining.

 

They should've stuck farming Rooftop Rumble if they're too inexperienced with Heists. That'll make everything better...

[The Gator]

I think it depends on how much of the heist you're gonna be in for. If you're gonna be in there helping them out from the first prep until the finale, I believe 25% is fair.

But in other circumstances there's nothing wrong with settling for less. Today, someone in my party helped me complete Humane Labs heist. All we had to do was the EMP delivery prep, and the finale. Since I hadn't been around to help with their other preps, I asked for 5-10%. I'm a much higher level than the host, and I know he would need the money more than I do. I just wanted to complete the heist for the unlockable content. He ended up giving me 15% and I was okay with it.

[C64fanatic]

You should be satisfied with 20% - no more and no less. It takes a considerable effort and time to be the leader, and he/she has money invested in it too. It is only fair that he/she gets a bigger bite of the cake.

Edited March 13, 2015 by C64fanatic

[JC Hammer]

OP, you may be a high rank but your the lowest of low when it comes to game play.

 

Mission Trolls are the worse players in the game.

[KaraKuleGFB]

What is your gamerstag? I give 30%, that's about 150k.

If you need money add me, also for other players reading this message..

[Chrunchip]

You flew the plane into the ocean? So instead of being the bigger person you screw everyone over. Thats all I need to know, says alot about your character, good luck...

 

All i thought is this.

 

Anyway who plays the heists for money?... You and your so called "High Levels" should swim in money – if your rank is legit.

For me (rank 250) it's not for the money but for a new game-exp. Money isn't an issue since rank 100+.

 

Like Jackso said it's a matter of character... – Discussing flaming & crashing a heist-mission for +/- 5% makes me sad.

 

 

so long

Chrunchy

Edited March 13, 2015 by Chrunchip

[Wildfire_08]

A high level for me is over 500. I'm lvl 652.

I don't mind playing the prison break over and over again with whatever.

With someone like me, chances of failure are almost zero.

 

So far most ppl have agreed with my price.

Some did not. To them, I said ok go on, give me whatever.

Last one who didn't want to pay, this is what I did:

Near the end of the prison break heist, I was the pilot.

 

I flew that thing right in the ocean and told the host:

Next time, gimme my price and I left.

I know it's a dick move but this is why I'm asking:

Is 25% too much to ask for a high level who knows what the hell she is doing?

 

 

 

 

Don't care what level someone is, if they suck ass they can gtfo.

 

I always take 10% because I don't need money from heists, only the 10% to pay back the setup cost, or if I decide to pug on my alt character I tell them to give me 0.

 

Have not failed a heist or setup yet due to something being my fault as I haven't made any mission ending mistakes.

 

I think the % system could have been better tbh, maybe show success rate for each person in the heist, their actual heist skills and not the meaningless stats they currently show, that way there could be justifiable %.

 

I've seen too many heists already where a guy comes in and wants 40% because he thinks he's beast yet actually he's a f*cking scrub and doesn't even deserve 10%.

 

Edit: Scrubs like this guy are the ones who get spawn killed the most in FM, Smh.

 

Also there is absolutely NO WAY you should be getting 25% for being the "pilot" in the prison break heist, that is by far the easiest role & literally consists of flying over the Alamo Sea for 10 minutes waiting for the prison crew to get out, before landing in the street, scooping everyone up and doing one.

 

That role only deserves 10-15% at the most, the guys who go in the prisons are the ones putting in the most work in that heist.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Wildfire_08

[t20ali786]

If you were not with me through the whole heist setup you aint getting 25% it is to much to ask for

[Iroquois]

 

 

Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?

Did you read his post?...

40/20/20/20

Did you??

 

40/20/20 is not gonna cut ( no pun intended) if everyone is poor. Its slightly meh for prison break but its hardly from even. For prison break it should be between 40 and 50, excluding 40. For the other following heists, the leader payout must increase.

[Imaginev6]

 

With 4 players, everyone should be getting at least 20%-25%. Anyone who says otherwise is a greedy asshole, so no. It's the fair amount to ask.

Something like 50, then yeah that's a bit too much.

 

Not true atall. Heist members get anywhere from $15,000 - $25,000 for every set up mission, the leader gets nothing. Add the initial costs of the Heist, and it's only fair that the leader gets the largest cut.

 

Oh, I didn't even realise that. I've been host and giving everyone equal cuts lol, in that case, definitely host 40% and the rest 20%. Sorry

[God-eater]

 

Geez, the lengths some of you will go to to justify your greed - greed for fake money, no less.

My favorite so far is this belief that the heist leader is somehow more vital to the mission than the three others, and thus is entitled to additional profit over and above recouping setup costs.

What, one of the roles during the heist was less valuable than another? You could have completed the job without them? No, you couldn't.

Every member of the team contributes equally and vitally. Cuts should be dead even after costs. The closest that the game lets us come to that is 40/20/20/20. Anything less is not only greedy but insulting.

In my crew it's 25% each, rich guys run the hiests, poor guys come along and become rich guys.

And if everyone is equally poor? Then what?

Heist leader recoups the setup costs. I mentioned it. You need to grind up your Smartass stat. I think Golf is the quickest way since the update.

[The Sullinator]

I refuse to ever be a heist leader again with my main crew. We need to at least start rotating, because there a little benefits to being the heist leader with a crew that you know. If you're with a bunch of randoms than that's different, but with you're own crew you basically get screwed. They get about 20-26k from all the setup missions, which is usually about 5, and you're the only person who pays the upfront cost for the heist. And they also got about 2-5k every time we failed a mission, which happened quite often since we played each one on hard and were doing it for the first time.

 

I made the cut 40/20/20/20 for my boys. I would have made it 25% for everyone if I got the same cash they did and didn't have to pay the upfront cost, but I mean after doing all five heists they ended up making way more money than I did. But 40/20/20/20 is a very fair cut. The other three are only getting 5% less, and it allows the heist leader to at least catch up as far as the payouts go.

 

There are very little benefits to being the heist leader with a close nit crew. You have the ability to choose the costumes...the difficulty. And since you have to host the other heists in order to get the next one, it kind of made it so they couldn't do any jobs without me so that was nice. But as far as cash goes, you make the least by far.

Though no matter what with the Fleeca Job, it should be 50/50. Even with the upfront cost on the replay. I had a freaking noob, Lvl 19, who made it 60/40. It was her first time doing it, no upfront cost for her, and she gets 20% more. What made it worse was she also made it normal difficulty. That mission does not require any effort whatsoever...if there were 10 higher difficulties, you could do it on the heist one and still have the same outcome because there are no gun fights. I can't comprehend why so many people aren't doing that mission on hard. You get a way better payout otherwise.