KageOni Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm not defending rockstar but I don't think the bugs and server issues have anything to do with the delays. These server issues are unavoidable. You just can't spend the money on infrastructure just for one day of mass traffic. Also, you can't really test for all the bugs in a game like this. There are just so many people doing so many things, no amount of delays is going to find them all. Only a mass test can point them out. That's why major multiplayer games do "betas". They are testing their servers and code for any game breakers that can be fixed with a day 1 patch. SCOOBASTEEB and WillyDope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raynos Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm not defending rockstar but I don't think the bugs and server issues have anything to do with the delays. These server issues are unavoidable. You just can't spend the money on infrastructure just for one day of mass traffic. Also, you can't really test for all the bugs in a game like this. There are just so many people doing so many things, no amount of delays is going to find them all. Only a mass test can point them out. That's why major multiplayer games do "betas". They are testing their servers and code for any game breakers that can be fixed with a day 1 patch. Yeap. Server issues were almost guaranteed. Remember when GTA V launched online in Ps3. That was mental. Its the huge demand that's causing the issue. As far as the bugs.. yeah sure, I'd expect a few bugs here n there but nothing as significant as whats happenings, Almost game breaking for some. Also, its not just some minor bug, most, if not all gamers are getting these bugs. I'm just wondering how this went past their QA? What about the early reviewers? Did they get a different version? WillyDope, Choco Taco and slvrcobra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddyoung Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't have GTA V yet (PC player here) what are the heist problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbuffs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Has Rockstar even acknowledged the bugs yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolkXue Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Nope.. R* Is silent which part of why people getting annoyed. They keep advertising Heists on their facebook but wont mention its issues Edited March 11, 2015 by VolkXue saintsrow and slvrcobra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Average white guy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I wish Rockstar would pull its cock out of GTA Online's butt for once and repair the damage that has been done to SP. I mean c'mon, they could at least release an article, noting what's wrong in SP and that they're working to fix it, but no, they won't. Uncle Vlad, slvrcobra, Lock n' Stock and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slvrcobra Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm not defending rockstar but I don't think the bugs and server issues have anything to do with the delays. These server issues are unavoidable. You just can't spend the money on infrastructure just for one day of mass traffic. Also, you can't really test for all the bugs in a game like this. There are just so many people doing so many things, no amount of delays is going to find them all. Only a mass test can point them out. That's why major multiplayer games do "betas". They are testing their servers and code for any game breakers that can be fixed with a day 1 patch. Me personally, I'm not complaining about server issues, even the fact that it has a few bugs. That's understandable. What me and many others are confused about is how the sheer number of glitches and bugs, many of them immersion or game-breaking, were able to make it past the testing phases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsrow Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 This doesn't shock me at all. Is it right? No, they've had a year and a half to get it right if not more time. But it doesn't surprise me in the least Hey, it's not like they made $1 billion in profits on GTAV so they could afford new servers ... Is this the right place to post this open message to Rockstar? CanOdope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManularChimera Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It almost seems that they used a completely different team from the ones who developed the base game to develop the heists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyojinEM Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) It almost seems that they used a completely different team from the ones who developed the base game to develop the heists.thats true because the Rockstar North main team are working on other games now ( GTA V SP DLC , Agent? ) and with other Rockstar studios altogether ( red dead 3, bully 2 ) i thinkBtw theres a extra team for Grand Theft Auto Online now Edited March 11, 2015 by emiliumium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sad to read about all the current SP issues out there. Rockstar should really learn now to release their MMO world from the SP game separate and not all together in the future games, so that we can get a polished and stable SP game and can happily avoid the updates without having to worry about making a mess of our offline experience on each update. Heists are released but they offer nothing to improve the SP game, by earning any offline heists, nor anything gameplay-wise, or improving the replay factor in any way. Yeah, only handing out some freebies to the SP game but these should be available to us without requiring to download the entire 4 GB plus of an update. It really makes no sense to me. Rockstar still seems quite happy to give all the extra time in offering everything they could to make the MMO game better but when it comes to give some of the extra time on a game we PAID for and that is already having important gameplay related issues, keeps getting postponed as if the SP game is secondary to the MMO game. Reminds me about a lot of the developers of Dayz, the way in which they kept on adding, and adding stuff to the game ever since the early access began, and simply ignore all the comments from the people about sorting out the main issues what they're already facing and which has totally stopped them from even playing the game, instead off throwing out pointless content on each update. Now imagine the condition with the SP experience and if it were to feature alongside the multiplayer. Seems a lot like Rockstar doing the same as well, a multinational company, after its enormous success in making millions from the fans, seems completely fine with such a mess of a release that they are happy to postpone the SP game as long as it means keeping the MMO running better and stable on each update. slvrcobra and Uncle Vlad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Rockstar should really learn now to release their MMO world from the SP game separate and not all together in the future games, so that we can get a polished and stable SP game and can happily avoid the updates without having to worry about making a mess of our offline experience on each update. I´m affraid a polished and stable SP isn´t their main target anymore. Online is a big success for them, so it will be their main focus now and in the future (for example, you ask them a question about SP related problems and their answer is about Online). They can concentrate on their precious GTA Online because they don´t have to worry about their future sales. They know that millions of people will buy a GTA game just because of the name or because a half-assed GTA SP is still more fun than the SPs of other games. After the SP made them a lot of money, they aren´t interested in people playing SP. They want them to jump into Online, to make them more money. The majority will do so. In comparison to these millions the few people that won´t buy future GTA games because of this focus on Online, they are negligible for R*. Objectively speaking, it makes sense. They´re a company and not our gaming buddies. Their main target is to make as much money as possible and not to maximise the SP experience of their long time fans. Osho, slvrcobra and Son of Zeus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonox Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 black characters becoming white Horrible racism! Dammit, Rockstar! slvrcobra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwenshy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 "Maybe it's time to throw in the towel Rockstar. There are much better qualified developers out there these days" Just released the most successful product in entertainment history. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc_404 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I see a lot of big words from the people on here about how sh*tty it is, but the fact of the matter is that you're all bark and no bite. You'll still download the updates and play the game. Exactly what im saying. I expected day one issues, but these clowns that wanna complain like lil kids talking about "I told you so" STFU the update is awesome it just don't work proper yet. How can it be awesome if it doesn't work properly yet? Take C* dick out of your mouth before speaking, please. Uncle Vlad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slvrcobra Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 black characters becoming white Horrible racism! Dammit, Rockstar! Lol, Rockstar has performed the first successful act of total ethnic cleansing in the history of mankind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOOBASTEEB Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 hahaha 'i'll show them how unhappy I am by playing their game until they fix it' That'll show them Uncle Vlad and tom_p1980 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_p1980 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I quite liked the argument that the heists were delayed because Rockstar were fine tuning them, polishing them to ensure the heists are bug free etc by R* fans. So, how did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koger Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hope that Rockstar would be more like BlackBox (which is now closed , unfortunately). They actually had a solid community while developing Need for Speed World. I still remember , back in 2010 , while I was playing the beta they were so comunicative. They were aware of the game's problems. I loved those posts about patch notes which included all the crazy glitches that have been fixed. BlackBox was probably the opposite of Rockstar when it came to communication with the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well, they made sure they will work fine for the GTA Online community. Who cares if the update f*cks up the SP? If people are still playing SP, it´s their own fault. GTA Online is the place to be. Well, I´d rather let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raburs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Well, they made sure they will work fine for the GTA Online community. Who cares if the update f*cks up the SP? If people are still playing SP, it´s their own fault. GTA Online is the place to be. Well, I´d rather let it be. GTA was always a SP and always will be a SP....... That's the way its been... Just because, R* decide to earn a bit more through Online, doesn't mean they'll abandon SP... GTAV isn't a f*cking MMO.. Edited March 11, 2015 by raburs Nah nah nah Gta 6, code166 and K20 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Average white guy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I don't get why GTA Online is treated like it is GTA V. It's not, GTA Online is nothing more than V's multiplayer component. GTA V should be the main focus and should be the game receiving content updates. Hell, the "GTA Online" heist update is actually for GTA V but, all the content is locked to Online only. So if you only play SP, your're sh*t out of luck. Edited March 11, 2015 by Dr. Sadler K20, slvrcobra and Cutter De Blanc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) black characters becoming white Horrible racism! Dammit, Rockstar! Lol, Rockstar has performed the first successful act of total ethnic cleansing in the history of mankind! cuz white illuminati club next time Franklin becoming to white guy named Bush Edited March 11, 2015 by Antaxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) GTA was always a SP and always will be a SP....... That's the way its been... Just because, R* decide to earn a bit much more through Online, doesn't mean they'll abandon SP... GTAV isn't is turning into a f*cking MMO.. Fixed this for you. Edited March 11, 2015 by Doctor Ray slvrcobra and raburs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nah nah nah Gta 6 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just because, R* decide to earn a bit more through Online, doesn't mean they'll abandon SP... GTAV isn't a f*cking MMO.. THIS, SO MUCH THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOOBASTEEB Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just because, R* decide to earn a bit more through Online, doesn't mean they'll abandon SP... GTAV isn't a f*cking MMO.. THIS, SO MUCH THIS. They've already abandoned GTAV if you haven't noticed.. Atleast until the SP story DLC which isn't likely to be out for at least half a year. I fail to see what they've 'earned' through GTA online apart from the cards that some people will have bought. Every DLC has been free. Your point doesn't really make much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raburs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) GTA was always a SP and always will be a SP....... That's the way its been... Just because, R* decide to earn a bit much more through Online, doesn't mean they'll abandon SP... GTAV isn't is turning into a f*cking MMO.. Fixed this for you. #True Edited March 11, 2015 by raburs code166 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief theef Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I would like to know.... how many more people would complain if R* actually supported the SP more than Online. "Omg c* such an illegitimate company, dey care too much about SP" Ya see, its kind of pick your poison for them. At least they do care about Online. They could be neglecting that part of the game if they wanted to. But there would be an even larger group of complainers than there are ppl complaining about SP. Fuzzknuckles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I would like to know.... how many more people would complain if R* actually supported the SP more than Online. "Omg c* such an illegitimate company, dey care too much about SP" Ya see, its kind of pick your poison for them. At least they do care about Online. They could be neglecting that part of the game if they wanted to. But there would be an even larger group of complainers than there are ppl complaining about SP. A large helping of this. The grass is always greener... Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Sabre Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 ^ Justifying the neglect that SP is getting? Really. Fantastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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