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Unofficial common sense list for performing heists


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Since we are about 1 day away, why not put a list of the predictable things needed on how to do these heists?

 

Now if you at least finished the single player campaign, then you should already be prepped on how to prepare for it.

 

 

How to do a heist properly:

 

 

 

1. CASE THE AREA!

 

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Lester had a reason to drag Michael out to the designated heist areas for a reason. Don't immediately charge into an area to find out what happens. Always plan ahead and play it safe.

 

In any given scenario, whether that be during the mission or during the setup phases, always survey the area first. Try to imagine where you think NPCs will most likely spawn if you proceed into an area that the mission gives you.

 

If you want an example of predictive NPC spawning, imagine doing a contact mission that requires you to pick up a package or deliver a car. The moment you pick it up, or enter that vehicle -- you should already know that either several enemy NPC vehicles will start coming to your position, so the smart thing to do is for example:

 

Enter the car, exit and take cover and let the enemy vehicles come to you so you can ambush them. Always be alert and never let any assumption pass you by.

 

 

Also, determine where your teammates should all be. Do you need a sniper on the rooftops? Do you need a teammate to stay in the vehicle to drive around to distract police cars and prepare for a getaway? Plan things out first before you go ahead and commit the heist.

Also, don't be cocky and charge straight in. 9 times out of 10, that lone person who thinks they are so badass charging in first without even surveying the area first -- is the one to die first. A heist requires all four of you to be alive to perform it successfully and easily. Having one person down can be enough to cause disaster early in the mission. Stick together and don't sway away from the group.

 

 

Using your sniper rifle as binoculars helps. Sometimes, it's not always a good idea to shoot first. Shooting first could raise alarms, which could lead to unnecessary wanted stars that you don't need leaving police to gain up on you before you can charge to the area you want to go. Scope the area out first, and give your teammates positions to move into -- which leads to the next important thing --

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. COMMUNICATION

 

 

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Committing a heist with other players definitely requires communication, which means you should make it a priority to find people that use headsets who know when to talk, and when to shut up. If you plan to PUG ( Pick-Up-Group ) with randoms who don't have mics, you're most likely going to do a very sloppy job or fail most of the times with the missing benefit of instant communication. It's very possible you can go through a heist primarily using text messaging through your phones, but the convenience of fast communication using microphones are way better for heists.

 

You will always be in a team of four people. The most logical thing to do assign nicknames if they have odd or very long usernames, as well as team names if you plan to split the group of 4 into two teams.

 

 

For example:

 

Player 1 (Leader) : 1HitShotty

 

Player 2 : PowerUpSwagga1

 

Player 3: flowerpower342

 

Player 4: UGOTSHOTLOL

 

 

 

Now we have a problem. We got a team with the same word (Shot and Power) in their usernames. Something as trivial like this could mess the entire team up during a mission if a player is mistaken for the other, and in the wrong time/position.

 

The best thing to do in this situation is assign color nicknames, like in Reservoir Dogs: Mr. Pink, Mr.Red -- or something very simple for your entire team to remember if this ever happens.

 

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When it comes to splitting teams of two, assign a codename for your team like Team Red and Team Blue or even military call signs like Bravo and Alpha. Make sure during communication, you start off using your designated call sign like:

 

"Bravo team, covering the street, go ahead and open the vaults"

 

and

 

"Alpha team, opening the vaults, cover us"

 

 

Now if this exchange of dialogue didn't happen because you were in a PUG group that consisted of 3/4 of the team not having microphones, most likely you would have opened the vaults while the other 3 idled outside the bank either killing or dying from cops when one of them should have been inside to cover you.

 

 

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The better the communication, and the better you reduce mic clutter with players learning to shut up when required; the more your entire team can stay focused and not screw up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Silencers won't attract cops when you fire weapons outside in public

 

 

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It's true! Well, as long as you don't intend to shoot people anyway; but firing silenced weapons on walls or even in the sky near pedestrians won't even alarm them, nor the police.

 

You should always have at least one silenced sniper rifle, SMG, assault rifle and pistol in your weapon inventory. If a heist requires you to kill security or civilian NPCs that can trigger alarms, ALWAYS use your silenced weapon or even a melee weapon to not attract any unneeded attention outside or inside a building.

 

Don't be stupid and fire a shotgun because the moment you do, an NPC who heard it from downstairs if you were upstairs, will sound the alarm and either end up failing the heist or making it unnecessarily difficult in the beginning when the cops start swarming in.

 

And when it's time to escape and use brute force, switch to your non-silenced weapons for extra damage and quicker kills when stealth is no longer an option.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Share your snacks, share your weapons. Learn to share and when to heal immediately when needed as well as fully stock up on body armor

 

 

 

You can hover around your weapon wheel and press Triangle (PlayStation) and Y (XBOX) to drop weapons and snacks for your comrades. Head to Ammunation, stock up all your guns to max capacity of ammunition; go to the convenience stores and max out your snack inventory. Stocking up at the beginning of every heist should be required, and make sure your other teammates do the same.

 

If you need to instantly heal fast, you can simply hug your back against a wall in cover mode, and select all the assorted snacks you have in your inventory to heal up your bar instantly rather than watching your player consume it slowly.

 

 

Another easy method to heal anywhere without the need of a wall is to aim down your sights on your weapon, and bring up your inventory snack menu and select all the snacks quickly to instantly recover your health bar.

 

 

Watching your health bar is a must. Don't even let your health bar recover back slowly to 50% during a heist and try to endure without eating snacks. Take the effort to make sure you are 100% healthy and also equipped with body armor again.

 

Given the recent Terminator-like A.I patch that R* has implemented, one NPC can do an 2x fast minigun burst out of their SMG wiping your entire 100% health/armor down to 25% health and no armor in less than a second.

 

Don't ever underestimate the A.I, ever.

 

 

Also, constantly remind your teammates to check their health and supplies and during communication, ask what their health bar is at to give them an incentive to heal up if they are low or around 50% health. If one of your teammates needs a rocket launcher and forgot to get one or weren't able to buy one, loan them that rocket launcher if you plan to separate your team later.

 

 

 

 

5. Brightness all the way up, Depth of Field effects - OFF

 

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Immersion of pretty graphics are nice, but it can also mess you up.

 

Make sure your brightness settings are at max if you have a low-light display monitor so you can see EVERYTHING in the dark. Depth of Field effects, while fancy -- can mess you up during fire fights when aiming at multiple targets because of the blur effect. Turn it off so you can get the maximum advantage of spotting enemies far away in the foreground and right next to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

6. Practice shooting your weapons while driving, and knowing when to duck in your vehicle

 

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Go to the options menu and configure your controls to select your Drive by Control type to: Aim+Fire

 

Now you can aim down your weapon while you are driving and decide when you want to shoot rather than automatically firing all of your rounds. Learning to Aim+Fire inside your vehicle will help your accuracy up even more which will prove valuable during chase sequences when those machine gun turret trucks are going to get involved in one of the heists. Aim+Fire will also help conserve clip rounds if your primary driveby weapon is either a AP Pistol or Micro SMG.

 

I prefer using an AP Pistol for maximum accuracy, and Micro SMG for spread fire against multiple enemies next to each other from a distance.

 

 

If you are getting chased by other cars shooting from behind, Hit the X (Playstation) and A (XBOX) button to duck down in your vehicle to avoid getting shot at more and to help conserve your health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. Don't be a scrooge. Divide your payout as equally as you can to all your teammates.

 

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Because the moment you pay one of your teammates less than what they should be earning during a heist, is when that same teammate screws you and the entire team. If you're the leader, you will be the one spending the cash to supply the crew. Make sure you calculate it so at least you make up for the expenses and still receive the same payout as the rest of your team members.

 

Use a damn calculator if needed and explain the expenses and payout to your team.

 

 

Ex.

 

 

You spend $100,000 on heist preparations.

 

 

The heist payout is $600,000.

 

 

Make sure you at least make back the $100,000 you spent on the heist, and divide the remaining $500,000 to all four of you.

 

 

$500,000 divided by 4 = $125,000

 

 

You (Leader): earns $225,000 ($100,000 for the heist preparations and $125,000 divided from the remaining $500,000)

 

Player 2: earns $125,000

 

Player 3: earns $125,000

 

Player 4: earns $125,000

 

 

Now this particular equation is suited for a all-rounded team of four people. If you are the leader, and already know the skill level or job duty of what your teammates are going to do for the heist, then plan accordingly and explain the payout. Just use your best judgment and don't be greedy, or else it will come back to screw you over when somebody in the team is butt hurt over the amount they are getting payed and will intentionally derail the heist campaign.

 

In a random PUG group anyway. I'm sure heist payouts will be more reasonable with crews.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, feel free to add your own everyone. Have fun with and play smart when the heists are out!

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1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

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Sky_Light12

well , how about vehicle's manned weapon ( insurgent , technical or even valkyrie )

it's quite difficult to aim combined the terrain ( for insurgent and technical ) and turbulence ( valkyrie ) . it's even worse if that player is too reckless to drive/pilot

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Tips

 

1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

/thread

 

 

That's why it's unofficial :p

 

/unthread

 

 

 

 

well , how about vehicle's manned weapon ( insurgent , technical or even valkyrie )

it's quite difficult to aim combined the terrain ( for insurgent and technical ) and turbulence ( valkyrie ) . it's even worse if that player is too reckless to drive/pilot

 

 

Well, we won't be able to find out how accurate those manned guns will be until Tuesday. Or if those vehicles are optional anyway.

 

Really, depending on how strict theses heists are on letting you use your own vehicles or only the vehicles and weapons that are already pre-set for it, you can dish a lot of damage inside a Zentorno and not have any back damage while firing with a AP Pistol as opposed to standing unshielded on that machine gun turret truck.

 

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As cool as explosions are. Don't grenade launcher/rocket everything. Cause the majority of the time, there's always some package to be destroyed

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As cool as explosions are. Don't grenade launcher/rocket everything. Cause the majority of the time, there's always some package to be destroyed

 

 

Good point!

 

Tear Gas always helps when you have a package that needs to be collected but surrounded by enemies.

 

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Well, I would demand that all crew members set their vehicle access to everyone. Nothing worse than getting caught in an emergency situation, seeing your character tugging at the door handle and getting shot to bits just because some clown forgot to change his settings.

 

In a pinch, any teammate can drive and get the team out of a bad situation fast rather than just the owner of the vehicle.

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Well, I would demand that all crew members set their vehicle access to everyone. Nothing worse than getting caught in an emergency situation, seeing your character tugging at the door handle and getting shot to bits just because some clown forgot to change his settings.

 

 

I can imagine that happening a lot if there was some sort of scripted event where a getaway driver came to pick the remaining three crew mates up from a bank or something only to get a notification that the person set nobody to access the vehicle. I wonder if R* didn't foresee this issue.

Don't run in like this:

 

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lol

 

But the guy with the fire extinguisher didn't die, so charging was at least successful in his case :p

 

 

Depending on the weapon load out for these heists, if an assault shotgun is included then always use that if you really plan to charge against a group of enemies. An assault shotgun has proved valuable to me in Survival Mode when wiping out horde spawns in one location with it's spread damage and instant knock down effect. It should be as useful in heists too, particularly inside buildings with narrow hallways

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Yeah, I know. Remains to be seen if there are any such simple things that will mess up the flow of events. Another thing to note would be to get a haircut that is actually compatible with all masks and hats. Imagine reaching the outfit stage and finding out your current hairstyle is not compatible with some headgear.

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Tips

 

1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

/thread

 

 

That's why it's unofficial Pointless :p

 

/unthread

fixed for you

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I will pwn you newbs

If the heist leader is risking losing a lot of money why would you make the payouts the same?

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Tips

 

1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

/thread

 

 

That's why it's unofficial Pointless :p

 

/unthread

fixed for you

 

 

 

Oh well. Have it your way.

 

 

 

If the heist leader is risking losing a lot of money why would you make the payouts the same?

 

 

I'd say safer to make payouts with a crew you know and trust and hopefully, at least played with before.

 

 

Still, the risk of losing a lot of money is even higher when you dupe your teammates of a proper payout from the beginning with a PUG group. Why would they want to help you if you're raking in 3/4 of the profit and only giving them the rest split amongst the 3? They are obviously going to screw you over from the beginning.

 

 

 

 

Do it with a modder, guaranteed pass.

 

 

#lastgensolutions

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Shadowfennekin

You can duck in your PV? ..........

 

I never knew that thanks! :)

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well , how about vehicle's manned weapon ( insurgent , technical or even valkyrie )

it's quite difficult to aim combined the terrain ( for insurgent and technical ) and turbulence ( valkyrie ) . it's even worse if that player is too reckless to drive/pilot

 

Well, we won't be able to find out how accurate those manned guns will be until Tuesday. Or if those vehicles are optional anyway.

 

in one of youtube reviews claims it's hard to use the valkyrie's side mounted miniguns and you can't shoot pursuers from behind unless the pilot turn around to rely rear or side targets ( although they claimed the valkyrie's third minigun has explosive rounds . but if the weight about par as cargobob/annihilator , it definedly hard to shoot ) . the enemy's pursuing vehicle during humane lab heist was buzzard and they uses the rockets

 

in case for Co-pilot with driveby , it relatively easy as they possess auto-aiming but only limited to pistol and micro-SMG ( due to this weapon class , the range is yet shorter )

 

on heist trailer scene where 2 insurgents ( one unarmed and other one is armed ) is seen firing the MG . the bigger helicopter are , easier to hit

 

although if allowed one member on the ground , it's possible for that member take out the pursuing buzzard with minigun , sniper rifles or even homing missiles ( or at least the valkyrie was flying around the anti-air member )

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You can duck in your PV? ..........

 

I never knew that thanks! :)

 

 

It helps (most of the time) if you are in auto-aim servers and zipping past people in the streets trying to shoot at you while you're driving with their lock-on aims.

 

The only time you'll actually get hit is if they shoot at you using free-aim or blitz you with an auto-shotgun and obviously an explosive of course.

 

 

 

I've heard it also helps avoid police cars spotting you if you park between other vehicles and duck, but I haven't had much luck with that anyway.

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I prefer:

 

1. Go in blind

2. Don't die

3. Message instructions. It's cheaper.

4. It's a game. Why so serious?

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gizmonomono

You can duck in your PV? ..........

 

I never knew that thanks! :)

Is this just on next gen or....?

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Wildfire_08

Saw the "codenames Bravo team" and immediately stopped reading.

 

Most people will not be doing this, and will still easily beat heists faster than any dweeb group that does this.

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Tips

 

1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

/thread

 

Yup

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I need a serious hiest crew that won't f*ck around on PS4 prefably Australian. I'm 15 and have a mic, $8 million+, all kinds of cars and rank 130 or so. I am most skilled at driving/flying/boating but am happy to be a gunman too.

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Do it with a modder, guaranteed pass.

 

 

#lastgensolutions

 

 

I have it on PS4 too, I've played it like 4 times, kinda pointless when the majority of my friends still play on the PS3 (and I can mod).

Besides, the new generation of GTA offers literally nothing as of yet, it's the same game just with better graphics and more players.

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I have it on PS4 too, I've played it like 4 times, kinda pointless when the majority of my friends still play on the PS3 (and I can mod).

Besides, the new generation of GTA offers literally nothing as of yet, it's the same game just with better graphics and more players.

 

 

It's funny to me that all the modders that came to the PS4 version, went back to their PS3 safe haven. I remember saying they would all get sh*t on horrendously on the next gen versions and end up running back to their little modded systems & it's exactly what happened.

 

Bum ass modders getting beasted on next gen, that's why PS4 version is > PS3.

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I have it on PS4 too, I've played it like 4 times, kinda pointless when the majority of my friends still play on the PS3 (and I can mod).

Besides, the new generation of GTA offers literally nothing as of yet, it's the same game just with better graphics and more players.

 

 

It's funny to me that all the modders that came to the PS4 version, went back to their PS3 safe haven. I remember saying they would all get sh*t on horrendously on the next gen versions and end up running back to their little modded systems & it's exactly what happened.

 

Bum ass modders getting beasted on next gen, that's why PS4 version is > PS3.

 

Are you serious? I don't PvP with mods, your argument is invalid. Like I said, the reason I'm still on PS3 is because of my friends.

If you're really that insecure about a video game, you should get some help, ASAP.

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Eggobites90

Dividing heist payouts according to what duty each player had is unfair.

 

SOMEBODY has to do the "easy" parts...so unless you plan on rotating roles by difficulty each heist, just split it evenly - after the leader recovers his upfront costs.

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Tips

 

1. Wait until Heists are actually released before creating "How to" primer....

 

/thread

Tip for you:

STFU

 

This can be helpful for those that need it before attempting heists.

You're just too f*cking stupid to figure that out.

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RoyalRedXIII

Soooo.... Basically the opposite of how people currently do contact missions in general right?

 

.......

 

Right?

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