How can Heist suck?

[ditsall22]

How can heist possible be disappointing? I'm assuming you're all fans of the gta series some of you just hopped on the bag wagging for GTA V are typically the pessimist, but I really don't see how you can rationale gtao heist sucking if you like gta.

 

Single player already has amazing fun heist, if you're a fan of the series you probably enjoyed them, so you already got a taste of what heist online will be like, except on a much bigger scale, and longer, and more intricate. So if you like the single player heist and recognize how amazing they are you can only expect that same greatness just bigger and more badass with all the gear and multi-player.

 

The ONLY way a fan of this series can even fathom heist sucking is if the severs go crazy, or if they team up with a bunch of idiots, but gameplay wise only expect the same genius design in the single player but greater!

 

On a side note, THANKS FOR ALL THE GEAR R* I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

 

[Ghost XB]

Well first off, its only 6 (or 7, I don't remember) heists. We've been waiting over a year for heists so I would at least expect a few more since doing the same thing 3 or 4 times gets boring. Second, we still don't even know if heists will come out on March 10th. With how Rockstar delay's stuff I wouldn't get my hopes up. Third, funmw2 said that the max payout for a heist will be $1.5 million, split on 4 people. If the payout is evenly split, at most each player would get $375,000. Thats enough to get a decently priced car and decently upgrade it (Ex. Its not enough to fully upgrade a Massacro). As it looks on the Trailers, the leader will get a 50%+ payout while the other players only get around 15% which means the leader will get around $825,000 while the rest of the players only get $225,000. Thats not even even enough to get a Jester, and thats the result on a perfect heist. The minimum payout will be $100,000 which means that the crew gets virtually nothing. I mean I guess heists will be cool, but I dont think it'll be 1 year delay cool.

Also, everything's probably gonna be crazy expensive so look forward to that.

[YaDoesntHaveToCallMeRay]

 

Also, everything's probably gonna be crazy expensive so look forward to that.

I doubt if we'll find out beforehand either, but they should pre-release some procedures of exactly how heists will work.

[oMass3y91]

Well first off, its only 6 (or 7, I don't remember) heists. We've been waiting over a year for heists so I would at least expect a few more since doing the same thing 3 or 4 times gets boring.

After waiting over a year you shouldn't be expecting much. I'm still convinced they'll be slightly harder, player vs. NPC contact-like missions that cost a f*ck ton of ammo.

[RandallFlagg00]

Just check back on the forum the day they come out. It'll be filled with "heist suck" topics no matter what.

[ditsall22]

"Well first off, its only 6 (or 7, I don't remember) heists. We've been waiting over a year for heists so I would at least expect a few more since doing the same thing 3 or 4 times gets boring."

 

-Pretty sure they said each heist is unique and different, and one play through alone is a total of 20 hours.

Not to mention all the replay values for each specific job for a new experience up to 4 times. You get 4 different perspectives to play from, so the amount is fine.

 

Quality not quantity.

 

"Second, we still don't even know if heists will come out on March 10th."

-Well this was the first official date, but this has nothing to do with heist sucking or not when it comes.

 

"Third, funmw2 said that the max payout for a heist will be $1.5 million, split on 4 people. If the payout is evenly split, at most each player would get $375,000. That's enough to get a decently priced car and decently upgrade it (Ex. Its not enough to fully upgrade a Massacro). "

 

- "Oh no! The I wont be a millionare after one heist? I'm gonna have to work hard to make good money! The game is promoting replay value? Noooo so bad! So disappointing!" Is basically what I got from that.

 

Are you kidding? The payout is great and balance, not too much, not to little, just right.

 

Finally, non of that stuff you wrote "will make heist suck", I'm referring to the gameplay and enjoyment value and all you're worried about is the payout and cost of things, smh....

Edited February 27, 2015 by RawGo0n

[E•MO•TION]

So in other words, only those who enjoy heists are true fans of the series?

[Chamber53DV]

It would suck if it doesn't live up to the pretty picture R* has painted. I truly believe them when they say the delay was due to having to rethink and redo Heists from scratch in order for it work properly and keeping all players engaged at all times with their own objectives.

 

I hope it doesn't turn to a flyby mission like today's Contact Missions. I want to feel that fear/pressure of not wanting to mess up my part because I don't want to be the one that screws it up for everyone. I want to be able to feel the high stakes. If the Heist leader put up $400k to put together a job...I want him to lose all of that money if one person fails their objective...forcing the leader to put in another $400k if they want another go at it.

 

And if the Hesit missions are a breeze to pass, then that fear will never be there.

 

If I don't feel that when I'm playing Heist, than its a fail in my book. I want my game changer.

Edited February 27, 2015 by Chamber53DV

[DrunkGamer]

Well first off, its only 6 (or 7, I don't remember) heists. We've been waiting over a year for heists so I would at least expect a few more since doing the same thing 3 or 4 times gets boring. Second, we still don't even know if heists will come out on March 10th. With how Rockstar delay's stuff I wouldn't get my hopes up. Third, funmw2 said that the max payout for a heist will be $1.5 million, split on 4 people. If the payout is evenly split, at most each player would get $375,000. Thats enough to get a decently priced car and decently upgrade it (Ex. Its not enough to fully upgrade a Massacro). As it looks on the Trailers, the leader will get a 50%+ payout while the other players only get around 15% which means the leader will get around $825,000 while the rest of the players only get $225,000. Thats not even even enough to get a Jester, and thats the result on a perfect heist. The minimum payout will be $100,000 which means that the crew gets virtually nothing. I mean I guess heists will be cool, but I dont think it'll be 1 year delay cool.

Also, everything's probably gonna be crazy expensive so look forward to that.

So funmw2 said the max payout for a heist will be 1.5 million? I don't think that will mean the 5 heists we get will give out the same reward. They have to be at varying degrees of difficulty and payout, so the first heist will probably pay sh*t, the second will pay a little bit better, the third will also pay more maybe close to a million, the fourth will probably pay in that 1.5 million dollar range. But the 5th and final one could possibly pay up to maybe 5 to 8 million dollars, this is just speculation on my part but I would be somewhat sad if the more difficult heist missions gave out the same payout every time.

[Dumb guy]

How can hiests suck?......

So many possibilities.

I'll just say it's not the same company that earned everyone's admiration.

[ditsall22]

It would suck if it doesn't live up to the pretty picture R* has painted. I truly believe them when they say the delay was due to having to rethink and redo Heists from scratch in order for it work properly and keeping all players engaged at all times with their own objectives.

I hope it doesn't turn to a flyby mission like today's Contact Missions. I want to feel that fear/pressure of not wanting to mess up my part because I don't want to be the one that screws it up for everyone. I want to be able to feel the high stakes. If the Heist leader put up $400k to put together a job...I want him to lose all of that money if one person fails their objective...forcing the leader to put in another $400k if they want another go at it.

And if the Hesit missions are a breeze to pass, then that fear will never be there.

If I don't feel that when I'm playing Heist, than its a fail in my book. I want my game changer.

Totaly agree.

[quote name="2281" post="1067030211" timestamp="1425007242"n other words, only those who enjoy heists are true fans of the series?

 

No, im saying those that claim the single player heist is just so great, cannot possible speculate that heist will suck gameplay wise.

[Drunken Cowboy]

How can anything delayed over a year and a half live up to any amount of hype?

No matter how great Half Life 3 is, some part of me is gonna feel disappointed.

Edited February 27, 2015 by Drunken Cowboy

[JC Hammer]

I don't think they'll suck, over-hyped hell ya but not suck...

 

I think the biggest problem for most of us over 30 will be finding time to get 3 other friends online to do them..

 

My friends and I are going to get together once a week, that's about as much as I can expect

[ugotsmoked]

So in other words, only those who enjoy heists are true fans of the series?

Yup.

[PG.]

I didn't know that there was only going to be a single heist.

[ugotsmoked]

I didn't know that there was only going to be a single heist.

5 to start.

[Phantomspirit]

I would be surprised if Heiists pay the sort of money stated above,I would suspect a Heist will play for about half an hour.Working on say Los Santos Connection,which takes 20mins approx and pays 25k each....the max you will probably get will be 50k each ,..just speculation of course,but missions payouts are time based...If they play longer then the payouts will work out more accordingly..I think players also need to take on board they will be failed a lot aswell....

[REXX]

Would suck if some idiot of a troll takes part in it.

[SRTTURBO4]

Would suck if some idiot of a troll takes part in it.

Oh there WILL be trolls. They are like an infectious disease that mutates. As soon as you find a way to kill them off, they mutate and begin to propagate once again. This is where having good, trusted friends will be valuable. Picking a random person just because you need to fill an empty slot means that you have possibly opened yourself up to a troll. Sad, but true I'm afraid.

[Commander S]

Only way heists are going to 'suck' is if people go into them with wildly-improbable expectations. I'm looking forward to faking my way into the police station in disguise, or getting the power tools out and emptying a bank vault - what I'm not going to do is moan when there's not a bunch of 'Cops & Crooks' missions as part of the update, or when/if it turns out that the aircraft carrier isn't going to be added to Freemode, or the Hydra isn't a Pegasus vehicle, or whatever.

Same as the Flight School update - people got all bent out of shape when the NPC clothing shown in the trailer wasn't made available for player characters (some even complaining that by showing NPCs with bodybuilder physiques, and then not adding those body types for player characters, R* was guilty of 'false advertising' - I don't even know sometimes... ). Or a bunch of clueless YouTubers who put 2 and 2 together to make 5, like the idiots who somehow couldn't work out the difference between a 'flight suit' and a 'wingsuit' - or even better, one guy who thought that R*'s reference to a 'heroic flight suit' = ...a superhero costume. No, I'm not making that up...


In short, make sure your expectations are realistic, and adjusted accordingly. Mine are (I'm simply working off things like the actual planning board info shown in the trailer, combined with how they match up to specific scenes/events in the video/screenshots), and I'm hyped for just that stuff - anything else is a bonus, but even without bonuses, everything shown thus far looks like it'll be right up my alley. Can't really ask for more than that.

[flipchuck]

Sounds like some of you guys won't like or think it'll suck due to the "low payout". Personally $100,000 to $235,000 for one big job is pretty good. Highest payout I ever got for a mission so far was only $30000 and that took almost 30 minutes to do. But there is more to heist then just the payout.

 

For me, the heist would only suck if the jobs themselves end up being horrible or boring. Even if trolls and squeaker ruin the mission or job, heist still wouldn't suck, just the troll or squeaker.

 

Then there is all the new content that comes with heist that should make GTA Online more fun.

[Shabazz916]

Ima enjoy heist bcuz i appreciate that rockstar wnt put out half ass shii

[RandallFlagg00]

Just for the love of God PLEASE let us buy the hydra with the update! I care about that so much more than the heists

[REXX]

Sounds like some of you guys won't like or think it'll suck due to the "low payout". Personally $100,000 to $235,000 for one big job is pretty good. Highest payout I ever got for a mission so far was only $30000 and that took almost 30 minutes to do. But there is more to heist then just the payout. For me, the heist would only suck if the jobs themselves end up being horrible or boring. Even if trolls and squeaker ruin the mission or job, heist still wouldn't suck, just the troll or squeaker. Then there is all the new content that comes with heist that should make GTA Online more fun.

Survival + 1 player + Wave 10 = A hell of a lot of RP and $30000 plus money that enemies drop.

[hornedturtle]

I like how this thread has turned into "heists suck because the payouts will suck."

 

As someone who only has cars I'll never use, the useless pegasus vechiles and clothes left to buy, i honestly don't care about the payout. I'm more interested in how it plays out.

 

Whether there are certain missions you have to do before the heist, if there is a cooldown period between heists, how much freedom you have in carrying out the heist etc.

[TotalFacade]

Like a lot of people, I'm burnt out with GTA Online... I'm not really expecting this to be a big comeback. Kind of like Warlords of Draenor...

[ditsall22]

Pretty healthy discussion I suppose but my main point is

 

NO ONE complained about the Single Player heist at all what so ever, they where pretty much deemed amazing.

We know what a heist in gta looks like so you should be expecting the same quality heist rockstar have always made in their gta games, simple bigger and better.

 

I swear if I see someone complaining about heist being boring or lame or whatever, ama have to call out the hypocrisy. "Why weren't you complaining about every other heist r* has ever made for any of the gta games??"

 

If you think GTA Heist(every installment) are bad, then why are you even here?

 

I already know people will complain about literally everything somewhere somehow so I just wanted yo damage control before the sh*t storm and try to enjoy heist for myself, cause negative vibes ruin the fun for everything.

[TotalFacade]

Pretty healthy discussion I suppose but my main point is

 

NO ONE complained about the Single Player heist at all what so ever, they where pretty much deemed amazing.

We know what a heist in gta looks like so you should be expecting the same quality heist rockstar have always made in their gta games, simple bigger and better.

 

I swear if I see someone complaining about heist being boring or lame or whatever, ama have to call out the hypocrisy. "Why weren't you complaining about every other heist r* has ever made for any of the gta games??"

 

If you think GTA Heist(every installment) are bad, then why are you even here?

 

I already know people will complain about literally everything somewhere somehow so I just wanted yo damage control before the sh*t storm and try to enjoy heist for myself, cause negative vibes ruin the fun for everything.

So basically you wanted to damage control your own experience and not give a damn about other opinions? Sounds like a load of bullsh*t to me... Get off your high horse and realize that not everyone has to conform to your preferences.

[Sithisvoid]

The leader also has to cover any expenses needed to start the heist which i hear can be pretty costly. When I run them I will subtract my expenses and then divide the remainer as evenly as it will allow.

 

As it looks on the Trailers, the leader will get a 50%+ payout while the other players only get around 15% which means the leader will get around $825,000 while the rest of the players only get $225,000. Thats not even even enough to get a Jester, and thats the result on a perfect heist. The minimum payout will be $100,000 which means that the crew gets virtually nothing.

[StangOne50]

What sucks is R telling us for over a year that they would be released soon.

I just hope they didnt design them with cash cards in mind and make them so hard there almost impossible to pass, draining us of the money we do have-which will probably be the case lol