AutoAim vs Free Aim - What's your Pros & Cons

[sultangris]

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

[ten-a-penny]

You still strafe, you just have to roll to break lock sometimes. Also I don't think you're reading my posts, free aiming is a large part of being successful in aa lobbies. I can and do free aim well, I just find aa lobbies far more fun with more people and much faster paced action than fa lobbies, I'm merely stating the fact that fa on controllers is fundamentally flawed and a mouse is far far better, im not saying that I can't do it or that it's impossible, I do it as well as you can with controller limitations, lol

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And then the game turns into Rolling Sausage Simulator 2015.

[Crimson Flam3s]

The problem with auto-aim and free-aim is the same as driving aids in racing games. Some people feel like they are special for racing with no aids, in a video game.

 

I play with Auto-aim, is not like I need to prove that I'm a pro to anyone, I just wanna have fun.

So you think everyone who plays FA, is just doing it to feel special and badass? Because I and most people I know, do it because it's more fun. It's only hard if you are used to AA. After a while it's second nature. I started gta on AA and know what it feels like to play both and go from AA "elite" to FA noob. And that was in IV were FA was much much harder.

 

In the end most people play what they find more fun and that's what matters.

 

You still strafe, you just have to roll to break lock sometimes. Also I don't think you're reading my posts, free aiming is a large part of being successful in aa lobbies. I can and do free aim well, I just find aa lobbies far more fun with more people and much faster paced action than fa lobbies, I'm merely stating the fact that fa on controllers is fundamentally flawed and a mouse is far far better, im not saying that I can't do it or that it's impossible, I do it as well as you can with controller limitations, lol

I got you, although just a note, the straffin that's done in FA is much different than in AA. You hold the run button while aiming with L2, making you run faster with more accuracy and simply holding R2 halfway aka run n gun. You can't strafe while shooting in AA and even if you could, it wouldn't do anything thanks to auto aim. Just like straffin vs nnpc's doesn't help one bit.But yeah

A combination of both in AA, specially in long range will make you more succesful

Edited March 24, 2015 by Crimson Flam3s

[MrCamo]

I use free aim:

No insta kills while driving around.

Keeps your skills sharp for other games

Real battle vs L2 R2 L2 R2 L2 R2

[ten-a-penny]

Actually AA would be really great if you CANNOT be locked on in vehicles.

This way currently using a bike in PvP's is a straight way to get rekt.

And lol @ "ur a nob f u use veheklez". Says the guy who can't aim for sh*t with a controller.

[sultangris]

Actually AA would be really great if you CANNOT be locked on in vehicles.

This way currently using a bike in PvP's is a straight way to get rekt.

And lol @ "ur a nob f u use veheklez". Says the guy who can't aim for sh*t with a controller.

Fail, be nothing but a noobfest with people running over everyone then. Locking them counters this problem.

[ten-a-penny]

 

Actually AA would be really great if you CANNOT be locked on in vehicles.

This way currently using a bike in PvP's is a straight way to get rekt.

And lol @ "ur a nob f u use veheklez". Says the guy who can't aim for sh*t with a controller.

Fail, be nothing but a noobfest with people running over everyone then. Locking them counters this problem.

......But some people shoot while being on bikes... And don't ram people off like kids.....

 

....Mind blowing, I know.

[sultangris]

 

 

 

Actually AA would be really great if you CANNOT be locked on in vehicles.

This way currently using a bike in PvP's is a straight way to get rekt.

And lol @ "ur a nob f u use veheklez". Says the guy who can't aim for sh*t with a controller.

Fail, be nothing but a noobfest with people running over everyone then. Locking them counters this problem.

......But some people shoot while being on bikes... And don't ram people off like kids.....

 

....Mind blowing, I know.

Some people play Barbie dress up fashion show in their apartments too, but I'm not concerned with the actions of idiots.

 

Shooting from a bike is probably the easiest way to get killed, at least a car offers some protection, lol

Edited March 24, 2015 by sultangris

[JC Hammer]

I use Free Aim for the bonus when doing missions and if I do get put in a public lobby its very hard to die!

[calambos]

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

Aiming settings don't mean sh*t, hard lock is called "traditional gta" just because it was the main way 3D-era GTAs were being played.

 

EDIT: Btw, auto aim is the retarded way to play GTA. If R* didn't care about sales by doing everything in favor of little kids and ignorant and lazy players, they would make free aim the only option. Auto aim is silly and R* knows it, go watch any of the gameplay trailers for GTAV/O and what you will see there is utilising free aim gameplay mechanics luch as RT aiming and claw. This is the way to play but unfortunately R* did nothing to promote this, they have never even introduced free aim mechanics in the game itself...

Edited March 24, 2015 by calambos

[Vice Beach]

There shouldn't be two separate aim lobbies. GTA Online Free Roam should be a blend of the two. PvP should be free aim only. Auto locking onto real human players in a PVP game is seriously a joke. Going 100 mph past another player who literally holds down two buttons and kills you in your vehicle..? Seriously? I'm not going to whine about how that takes no skill blah blah but really if that's not catering to babies I don't know what is. You should only be able to lock on to NPCs. Cops, enemy ai in missions, peds etc because they themselves have "auto-aim"

[sultangris]

 

 

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

Aiming settings don't mean sh*t, hard lock is called "traditional gta" just because it was the main way 3D-era GTAs were being played.

 

EDIT: Btw, auto aim is the retarded way to play GTA. If R* didn't care about sales by doing everything in favor of little kids and ignorant and lazy players, they would make free aim the only option. Auto aim is silly and R* knows it, go watch any of the gameplay trailers for GTAV/O and what you will see there is utilising free aim gameplay mechanics luch as RT aiming and claw. This is the way to play but unfortunately R* did nothing to promote this, they have never even introduced free aim mechanics in the game itself...

First time playing on a console or playing a gta game? Every console game has an auto aim, and every gta used gta traditional aiming. If console games were free aim only no casual gamer(virtually all console gamers) would buy them. Free aim lobbies are empty for a reason, free aim with a console controller sucks ass unless you play a lot and even then it's still sh*tty. Hardcore gamers use a pc, better games, better controls, better graphics, more options, no auto aim, better everything really.

[paulmgrath]

^^p.c point and click, hardcore gamers use GAMES consoles as well there not as multi use as p.cs.Consoles got hardcore fifa players, beat em up and racing fans. Most games are created for consoles first then ported to p.c nowadays as well.

Its all in the player theres a guy called 'one chessy mofo' and he smashes BF4 on PS4 and P.C both using controller or mouse.

Edited March 25, 2015 by paulmgrath

[.Vooodu.]

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

 

 

Its not called TRADITIONAL AIM anymore on current gen.. Only on old gen. And NO, it was not designed to be played with auto aim.

 

 

First time playing on a console or playing a gta game? Every console game has an auto aim, and every gta used gta traditional aiming. If console games were free aim only no casual gamer(virtually all console gamers) would buy them. Free aim lobbies are empty for a reason, free aim with a console controller sucks ass unless you play a lot and even then it's still sh*tty. Hardcore gamers use a pc, better games, better controls, better graphics, more options, no auto aim, better everything really.

 

 

 

You just seem like a Auto Aim user who just wants to argue with anyone who uses Free Aim for no reason.

 

Free Aim lobbies are not empty. Free Aim with a controller does not suck. Hardcore gamers play what ever the f*ck they want ALOT.

 

 

 

 

You do know that auto aim has a limited range and outside that range its all free aim. You simply prefer close to mid range combat easy. Thats it... its nothing more then that.

Edited March 25, 2015 by HulioG

[Shaundi.]

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

Fail, be nothing but a noobfest with people running over everyone then. Locking them counters this problem.

Some people play Barbie dress up fashion show in their apartments too, but I'm not concerned with the actions of idiots.

Shooting from a bike is probably the easiest way to get killed, at least a car offers some protection, lol

[maz9000]

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

GTA has always been auto aim for me.

Play far cry and other shooters free aim

[Crimson Flam3s]

 

 

 

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

Aiming settings don't mean sh*t, hard lock is called "traditional gta" just because it was the main way 3D-era GTAs were being played.

 

EDIT: Btw, auto aim is the retarded way to play GTA. If R* didn't care about sales by doing everything in favor of little kids and ignorant and lazy players, they would make free aim the only option. Auto aim is silly and R* knows it, go watch any of the gameplay trailers for GTAV/O and what you will see there is utilising free aim gameplay mechanics luch as RT aiming and claw. This is the way to play but unfortunately R* did nothing to promote this, they have never even introduced free aim mechanics in the game itself...

First time playing on a console or playing a gta game? Every console game has an auto aim, and every gta used gta traditional aiming. If console games were free aim only no casual gamer(virtually all console gamers) would buy them. Free aim lobbies are empty for a reason, free aim with a console controller sucks ass unless you play a lot and even then it's still sh*tty. Hardcore gamers use a pc, better games, better controls, better graphics, more options, no auto aim, better everything really.

You obviously don't know anything about aim assist in other games. CoD, BF, far cry they all have it. All it does, is slow down the reticule near an enemy, you don't press a button and track enemies indefinitely.

 

Free aim lobbies are definitely not empty, what's hard is starting missions with many people but again I go to AA and you don't fill the up the lobbies much quicker. R* matchmaking is extremely sh*tty. AA has the people advantage because it's the default setting, I don't see people asking for aimbot in other games forums, so you are wrong.

 

Since when did you officially define hardcore gamers? Hardcore gamers play whatever the f*ck they want and on any system that has games that are worth it, not just the usual pc master race crap.

 

Consoles definitely have their advantages, else I would be playing V on my pc instead but oh wait!...

 

If you like AA and think you can't be competent without a mouse then good for you, but you can't be talking about FA or aiming with a controller when you don't do so yourself, thus not having the abilities to correctly gauge it's limitations.

[Vice Beach]

 

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

GTA has always been auto aim for me.

Play far cry and other shooters free aim

GTA has also always been a single player experience fighting AI controlled enemies until IV and V's multiplayer. A competitive online PvP with sticky aiming onto other players is a very dumb and dated concept. Free Aiming with a controller is not difficult in the slightest unless you're a true real life noob picking up a console controller for the very first time.

 

Free Aim lobbies are empty because R* chose to make Auto-Aim the default and many players don't know how to change it. R* also made changing aim style a pain in the ass by making you have to back out to single player to switch it.

 

I get no satisfaction out of getting kills with auto aim in PVP. It feels like I'm using hacks. I get so pissed off when I'm playing in an auto-aim lobby and people are boasting about their kills over the chat.

 

GTA V very fluid shooting controls and Auto Aim is just not necessary for PVP. It caters to noobs/casuals/babies.

 

Just give us auto-aim for cops and other NPCs.

[calambos]

 

 

Plus the biggest fact that gta is designed to be played with auto aim, it's called GTA TRADITIONAL AIMING if that gives you a hint.

Aiming settings don't mean sh*t, hard lock is called "traditional gta" just because it was the main way 3D-era GTAs were being played.

 

EDIT: Btw, auto aim is the retarded way to play GTA. If R* didn't care about sales by doing everything in favor of little kids and ignorant and lazy players, they would make free aim the only option. Auto aim is silly and R* knows it, go watch any of the gameplay trailers for GTAV/O and what you will see there is utilising free aim gameplay mechanics luch as RT aiming and claw. This is the way to play but unfortunately R* did nothing to promote this, they have never even introduced free aim mechanics in the game itself...

First time playing on a console or playing a gta game? Every console game has an auto aim, and every gta used gta traditional aiming. If console games were free aim only no casual gamer(virtually all console gamers) would buy them. Free aim lobbies are empty for a reason, free aim with a console controller sucks ass unless you play a lot and even then it's still sh*tty. Hardcore gamers use a pc, better games, better controls, better graphics, more options, no auto aim, better everything really.

 

What you said here about auto aim in console games I explained in my previous post and I see you're agreeing with my here, so thanks.

 

Free aim lobbies aren't empty, less people play this way, but again, the answer for this is in my previous post.

 

It's not about being a hardcore gamer or even playing a lot for that matter. Auto aim is in games just because developers choose to implement this. Aiming with controller is more difficult than with mouse, but you still can get really good with it. If I were to 1v1 DM myself on mouse vs me on controller, the controller me would beat the sh*t out of the mouse me. It's all about what you're used to, and even if mouse is more accurate device to use for aiming in long term, it doesn't matter as long as every PC mouse+keyboard player is against other players who are using mouses and keyboards and every console player is using a controller.

 

Hardcore players use PC? That's a dumb thing to say, you can be a hardcore Angry Birds player on a smartphone, don't associate "hardcore" with any platform.

Better games are on PC? That's arguable, but so far there's not been a single game that I wanted to play that was not released on consoles.

All the sh*t you said are typical PC/console war arguments, PC has some advantages over consoles, consoles have other advantages, let's end it here.

 

Back on topic, auto aim/trad GTA/assisted aim, all this sh*t sucks. Free aim is the way to go and I'm pretty sure that if auto aim/auto assist was nonexistent in modern console games, you and other AA defenders would laugh at an idea of implementing such thing.

[44MA9NUM357]

Free Aim is definately more of a challenge. AA has become a crutch for most players. If youve played any R* mp offerings before, you can kill people blindfolded in gtao. Everyone already knows how to flick the stick upwards for an instant headshot. I got tired of that during Red Dead when i would mass murder HPP griefers with a bolt action on horseback. GTAVs combat mechanics and movement arent the best but they are the best GTA has ever offered. AA was useful in older games because the mechanics didnt lend themselves to free aiming. Thats no longer the case. I had to go back into AA lobbies just to find people to finish up the Pacific job and i cant tell you how many randoms ive seen take the time to try and lock onto every individual npc instead of lining up your dot to one head and strafe headshotting everything moving. I outkilled every random i partnered with because i basically never locked on to any enemies. Whats the sense in aiming center mass and dragging upward when you can line up headshots? What i think R* should do is go back to how Red Dead MP worked upon launch. Lump EVERYONE together regardless of aim setting and allow those that want to target others the option to do so. If i use free aim and you use traditional, you shouldnt be able to lock on to me at all because i dont want to lock on to you. R* fudged up by dividing the community when the cry babies complained that they were dying to people they couldnt auto lock. Put everyone together and youll see how many people go back into SP for some free aim practice once they start getting hammered by those that already took the time out to learn how to move, shoot and survive while free aiming. This whole auto lock stuff in PVP is a joke. Hardest things to do in free aim are rampages/survivals and after a while get much easier because of the time you put in to get better. Id even be good with auto or assisted lock for NPCs only. I wouldnt use it but i can understand those that would because NPCs are crack shots even at extreme distances. Theres nothing that AA gives you that free aim doesnt. In fact, movement while in combat feels much more fluid as youre not using the left trigger as your only move.

[SuperJude™]

Auto Aim:

 

PROS - You don't have to aim, other n00bs won't judge you because they are also using auto aim

 

CONS - YOU'RE USING AUTO AIM!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Free Aim:

 

PROS - Aiming!

 

CONS - Auto Aim n00bs joining Free Aim lobbies and whining about not having auto aim.

Edited March 25, 2015 by SuperJude™

[Shaundi.]

Every console game has an auto aim

Wrong.

 

Ever played a Saints Row game?

[sultangris]

You guys don't read much before posting do you? Guess I shouldn't expect people that think a console controller is better than a mouse to be too bright, lol! Mouse vs controller will result controller guy getting slaughtered. I used to think the same as you console noobs and even hooked a controller to my pc, bad plan, it's not even fair, I don't care how good you are with a controller, it's just too slow. Sure you can think you're good with one but you'll probably never understand until you learn how to use a mouse/keyboard properly.

 

Consoles are essential cheap pcs and perhaps you're too young to remember but back before the game companies figured out they can sell console idiots 47 versions of the same game (COD) and make more money the quality of pc games was nearly double that of consoles cause they had to dumb them down to run on essentially much weaker pcs with limited controller functionality. Nowadays they just mass produce crap for the larger console market, only hardcore gamers can afford $3000 pc gaming rigs so understandably the market is smaller. If you were to play bf3 for example on both pc and console it would blow your tiny minds how much better the game is on pc, literally double the features, content, and options.

[calambos]

You guys don't read much before posting do you? Guess I shouldn't expect people that think a console controller is better than a mouse to be too bright, lol! Mouse vs controller will result controller guy getting slaughtered. I used to think the same as you console noobs and even hooked a controller to my pc, bad plan, it's not even fair, I don't care how good you are with a controller, it's just too slow. Sure you can think you're good with one but you'll probably never understand until you learn how to use a mouse/keyboard properly.

 

Consoles are essential cheap pcs and perhaps you're too young to remember but back before the game companies figured out they can sell console idiots 47 versions of the same game (COD) and make more money the quality of pc games was nearly double that of consoles cause they had to dumb them down to run on essentially much weaker pcs with limited controller functionality. Nowadays they just mass produce crap for the larger console market, only hardcore gamers can afford $3000 pc gaming rigs so understandably the market is smaller. If you were to play bf3 for example on both pc and console it would blow your tiny minds how much better the game is on pc, literally double the features, content, and options.

Everything that you've said here, I've adressed in my previous posts, I feel you're referencing to my response, but it doesn't make much sense considering what I said. You're the one that doesn't read here (or at least you don't understand what you read).

Edited March 25, 2015 by calambos

[sultangris]

 

 

You guys don't read much before posting do you? Guess I shouldn't expect people that think a console controller is better than a mouse to be too bright, lol! Mouse vs controller will result controller guy getting slaughtered. I used to think the same as you console noobs and even hooked a controller to my pc, bad plan, it's not even fair, I don't care how good you are with a controller, it's just too slow. Sure you can think you're good with one but you'll probably never understand until you learn how to use a mouse/keyboard properly.

 

Consoles are essential cheap pcs and perhaps you're too young to remember but back before the game companies figured out they can sell console idiots 47 versions of the same game (COD) and make more money the quality of pc games was nearly double that of consoles cause they had to dumb them down to run on essentially much weaker pcs with limited controller functionality. Nowadays they just mass produce crap for the larger console market, only hardcore gamers can afford $3000 pc gaming rigs so understandably the market is smaller. If you were to play bf3 for example on both pc and console it would blow your tiny minds how much better the game is on pc, literally double the features, content, and options.

Everything that you've said here, I've adressed in my previous posts, I feel you're referencing to my response, but it doesn't make much sense considering what I said. You're the one that doesn't read here (or at least you don't understand what you read).

Not all directed at you, we agree on many points. I should've said some form of assisted aim is in every console game instead of using the term auto aim. It's not developers choosing to add it however, it's non existent in pc games cause the controls are so much better it isn't needed.

 

You can get good with a controller but it takes lots of practice. If you only casually game a few hours a week you will never be as good as the guy who plays 5 hours or more every day, and that's why assisted aim exists, to ensure more customers.

 

You can't really think people are so f*cking dumb that they don't look at the settings of a game they play and have no idea they can change it do you? Every moron is perfectly aware that games have settings you can change, unless maybe it's their first game ever but I'm pretty sure it even tells you about it in the loading screens, Lol!

 

The fact is that casual gamers do not like free aim, and players who've played previous gta games are used to traditional aiming mode as every gta game is designed to be played using that mode and that is why aa lobbies are infinitely more popular. Gta online is an abortion however and it's clear they have no clue how to make balanced multiplayer games.

 

I do generally prefer fa for pvp but this game is not designed for using it and as such there are some game changing disadvantages as a result so I prefer traditional aiming for this game while also using some fa at the same time for best results as previously explained multiple times.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

I prefer free aim because there's less lag comp and less try hards, just the annoying as ever MC and Jamestown people.

[SuperJude™]

So much tl;dr

[calambos]

Not all directed at you, we agree on many points. I should've said some form of assisted aim is in every console game instead of using the term auto aim. It's not developers choosing to add it however, it's non existent in pc games cause the controls are so much better it isn't needed.

You can get good with a controller but it takes lots of practice. If you only casually game a few hours a week you will never be as good as the guy who plays 5 hours or more every day, and that's why assisted aim exists, to ensure more customers.

You can't really think people are so f*cking dumb that they don't look at the settings of a game they play and have no idea they can change it do you? Every moron is perfectly aware that games have settings you can change, unless maybe it's their first game ever but I'm pretty sure it even tells you about it in the loading screens, Lol!

The fact is that casual gamers do not like free aim, and players who've played previous gta games are used to traditional aiming mode as every gta game is designed to be played using that mode and that is why aa lobbies are infinitely more popular. Gta online is an abortion however and it's clear they have no clue how to make balanced multiplayer games.

I do generally prefer fa for pvp but this game is not designed for using it and as such there are some game changing disadvantages as a result so I prefer traditional aiming for this game while also using some fa at the same time for best results as previously explained multiple times.

Yes, assisted aim/auto aim is present in most console games. Developers are putting these settings in games, because aiming with controller is more difficult than aiming with mouse and that's something they do to make games more accessible for casual gamers. I have no problem with auto aim in SP games, but I think that playing PVP with AA is a misunderstanding.

in fact i've played GTAIV, GTAV using auto aim, and even played GTAO quite some time on AA, because I thought it's the only option. It was greyed out in the settings and I've never seen a tip on a loading screen how to change it to FA. I think I've learned how to do this on forums.

 

Yeah, casual players that play only few hours a week probably don't want to be bothered with learning how to be good with free aim, but this kind of gamers would be getting their asses kicked in auto aim PVP anyway. There's a pretty large number of players who play GTAO everyday. Most of them use some kind of assist or auto aim in GTA, so it's this kind of people we're talking here about.

 

What I'm trying to say is that free aim is a better way to play GTAO than auto aim. Naming of settings, percentage of people playing AA, the fact that AA is present in games doesn't mean that it's the best way to play. GTAV/O wasn't designed as a auto aim game. If it was, auto aim would be the only option.

 

You said that FA has some game changing disadvantages. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?

Edited March 25, 2015 by calambos

[SuperJude™]

So much tl;dr

 

I get that Rockstar prefers auto aim it's just that to me, it leaves too much up to chance and removes the fun of a game where you shoot at other people/places/things.

 

Training wheels, if you will.

[CH14R1]

In fact there's an approach to others FPS games aim modes that is assisted aim and i don't think this is a flaw, it's the lock on thing is a joke IMO. Wanna go casual or learning purposes, assisted aim.