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Mr Tomato

The Slidey Cars Guide (How To Drive in V)

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Mr Tomato

WELCOME TO THE kindaCOMPLETE GUIDE TO SLIDEY CARS

 

 

Many of you are probably aware of the slidey cars cheats existence, many of you have probably tried it, some of us have really enjoyed it, but still find it very difficult, some hate it and some, may not even know it exists.

 

The purpose of this topic, unlike my last topic about the slidey cars cheat (which will shortly be removed) is, to share my knowledge on this cheat, I have spent many, many hours driving in GTA V with the cheat active, I have discovered a range of things about it, heck I've even managed to get 67% of a play through done, only using slidey cars, if the game allowed me to do so and anyone who has taken a liking to the cheat, would probably know by now, how frustrating that can be, given how buggy the cheat is when coupled with trying to use many of the games features.

 

I know that there is a big divide in peoples opinions, on how the driving in a GTA game should be, thats fine, I do not wish to tell you that you are wrong, you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, so please, leave GTA IV out of this, leave the childish insults, the anti constructive arguments, out of this topic, by now we have seen it all, its boring get over it, even if we have differing opinions, we should be working towards having GTA games cater for each of our tastes, rather than fighting over who's right, because face it, its getting us bloody no where fast, its not improving the game, so whats the point?

 

Slidey Cars, to me, isn't just some cheat that makes the cars real slippery, yo. It is actually fully fledged driving mode, it does a lot more than just making the cars slippery, it introduces the need for car control, throttle control, braking control, taking the proper line through corners and such, I want it recognised as such, and ultimately introduced as a menu option, just the same as we have the options for assisted aim or free aim, thus removing the current bugginess of the cheat, more on that later, but I cant do it alone, I need YOUR help.

 

With the cheat activated, each and every car, has a unique feel to it, some differences are subtle, some are more noticeable, comparing a taxi, to an entity, there is a huge change, the power, responsiveness, acceleration and braking of the taxi, are as you would expect, crap, it is a run of the mill sedan, nothing special. The entity however, is a super car, its fast, it accelerates like a bat out of hell, seriously, go try it for yourself, that thing is off tap! it handles amazingly, it brakes, as you would expect it to, it can be a handful if you don't drive it right, but when you do, it is one hell of a rewarding experience, but it drives differently to the Cheetah, the Adder and all the other super cars, each of them have their own unique set of characteristics, which is not so without the slidey cars cheat, without it theres not really much point in driving/owning the other vehicles, other than personal preferences on aesthetics.



WHY YOU SHOULD USE SLIDEY CARS

 

  • Speed cap is removed.
  • Cars have better acceleration.
  • Police and rubber banding A.I. can't keep up with you.
  • Police chases are more like police chases, less whatever they were before.
  • Driving now requires you to use skill.
  • Higher speeds make for bigger/better crashes with more convincing damage, most of the time.
  • It basically fixes the driving in GTA.
  • You can now actually drift certain cars.
  • Most missions are playable with the cheat active, the mission where you collect the Entity and the Cheetah for Devin Weston, is actually hilarious, there's these two super cars weaving in and out of traffic, trying to out run your sports car, but if you drive clean, you have to ease off to not over take them, as they are stuck on the speed cap, just like you were before you took my advice and started using Slidey Cars. :whistle:

 



THE TECHNIQUE :cool::ph34r:

Now I'll admit, when I first entered the cheat, I was used to the normal V driving, I didn't think at that point, that I would be unable to ever go back to the standard driving, or that I would ever be able to drive nearly as well as I do now, or have as much fun with it, nor did I expect the depth these crazy guys over at rockstar have put into the driving mechanics of this game.

Here is a list of a few ways you can improve your driving and get more comfortable with the cheat, so you too can realise its full potential.


> Take it easy, at first, especially if you are used to the standard physics, you'll have trouble taking corners, you get accustomed to taking corners way, way too fast with the standard physics, slow it down a bit, theres a pretty small margin for error once you start pushing things to higher speeds, don't try drive like a hero straight off the bat, ease into it brother.

> Throttle control, when you jam the accelerator all the way in from a standstill in GTA V, you are essentially dropping the clutch and booting it as hard as you can, which, in any powerful car in real life, will make you do a skid, probably not as over the top as the one you'll do in V but, hey I don't mind being able to paint some lines when I want, so ease the accelerator on, learn the point at which you can go full throttle (yes it varies slightly from car to car) it will become natural eventually I promise.

> The transmission is fairly responsive to how you use the accelerator, when cornering, don't just go full throttle, unless you want to slide though it, or the corner allows for it, but assuming you want a clean, fast corner, do your braking before the corner, set your speed and entry up, hunt down the best line through it and experiment with different levels of SUBTLE braking and accelerating, listen to your car, the sounds of the gears changing and the varying RPMS, aren't just there to sound pretty, they actually reflect what you are doing with the car and how it is responding to your input.

> Braking, this is one of the biggest complaints with both the standard and slidey modes, both are said to be on the opposite end of the extremes, however, I beg to differ with slidey cars, not many people are aware of this, but when you are braking, especially hard and from high speeds, if you feather the accelerator, as if it was now a paddle shifter, your car will shift down through gears, this is called engine braking, its a great thing and I am amazed that it made its way into this game, this technique will allow you to cut down your braking distance by a very noticeable amount when its done right, not only does it do that, it can stop the car revving out in a single gear and sounding like a hoover on steroids, it also helps not to just hold brake in all the way, feather it a bit, just experiment with it like its the 80s man, its sophisticated, just experiment god-dang-it, listen to your car and pay attention to how it responds to subtle changes in the way you drive, when you know, you'll know, ya know?




THE BUGS :facedesk:

As some of you are probably well aware, the cheat seems to just randomly stop working, although it is active at the time, deactivating and reactivating the cheat wont fix it, there you are, having a great time playing with some decent handling cars, then the next minute you are stuck with the plain, boring old GTA V driving, only its not so random and I think i have pretty much worked out all the triggers, if you are like me and you want to play though all the missions with slidey cars active, this will help you do it, with a little less stress.

Firstly, once the cheat becomes broken and the game wont register it as being activated anymore, the only thing to do is to load a save game, you can quick save as you are and re load that, then enter the cheat and you'll be good to go again, but thats just a pain in the ass, better to avoid that, right?

 



So here is a list of all the cheat breaking triggers that I have come across so far:

> Getting on a motorbike, ATV or entering a golf caddy.
> Submerging a vehicle in water to the point where it breaks down.

> If the current or last vehicle you were in explodes.
> Failing a mission and clicking retry, (if you press exit instead you will come out with slidey cars active about 9 times out of 10.)
> Entering one of the player purchased garages on foot and leaving on foot (Entering and starting a garaged vehicle, then exiting and walking out seems to stop it)
> Switching between characters while the cheats active seems to do it almost every time, possibly only when you switch into a cutscene, (further testing required) turn the cheat off before switching though and you're good to re-enter it once the switch is complete, should work most of the time.
> Interacting with the purchase menu at 24/7 stores.
> Sometimes, albeit very rarely when you enter an 'abandoned' police vehicle.

There are probably others that I have forgotten, but that pretty much does it for ones that I am dead certain will 'break' the cheat, however there are some instances where the cheat breaks and I can't figure out for the life of me, why it has happened, or I only know half the story, for instance sometimes when I die, the cheat is broken once i re-spawn, it doesn't seem to be any set number of deaths, just sometimes, when the game feels like you've had enough fun, come to think of it, the cause may be in the way you die, I'm sure I will figure it out when I go to test it next time I play, there have also been times where its just stopped working, not a clue why, just out of the blue, although these occurrences are super rare.



0-60MPH & 0-120MPH TIMES :panic:
All tested and timed by me, all cars had all performance enhancing upgrades installed, more to come in future.

(I dont know why there is a heap of space above each section, was fine before I edited it on an iPhone, tried to delete and replace the section on my computer and the problem still persists, if a mod knows how to repair it and feels like doing so, be my guest I'll be very thankful!)

Super Cars:

 

[table]

Super Cars-----------
0-60 Mph (96.5Kmh)
[/td]
0-120 Mph (193.1Kmh)
-
Entity XF (Overflod)

2.05s

4.98s
-
Infernus (Pegassi)

2.00s

4.96s
-
Cheetah (Grotti)

2.95s

6.57s
-
Adder (Truffade)

2.75s

5.52s
-
Bullet (Vapid)

4.31s

11.43s
-
Coil (Voltic)

3.74s

DNF
-[/table]



Sports Cars:

 

[table]

Sports Cars
----------
Buffalo (Bravado)

3.98s

8.28s
-
Banshee (Bravado)

3.98s

9.43s

Fusilade (Schyster)

5.25s

12.20s
-
Rapid GT (Dewbauchee)

4.03s

8.40s
-
Felon GT (Lampadati

3.71s

8.48s
-
Coquette (Invetero)

3.10s

7.95s
-
Furore GT (Lampadati)

3.45s

8.05s
-
Comet (Pfister)

3.50s

7.88s
-
9F (Obey)

2.62s

5.45s
-
Oracle FL (Ubermacht)

4.30s

9.54s
-
Feltzer (Benefactor)

4.30s

10.96s
-[/table]



Muscle Cars:

 

[table]

Muscle Cars
-----------
Dominator (Vapid)

3.93s

7.72s
-
Stallion (Déclassé)

2.46s

9.28s
-
Ruiner (Imponte)

4.09s

9.72s
-
Vigero (Déclassé)

4.63s

10.97s
-[/table]



Sports Classics:

 

[table]

Sports Classic
-
Pigalle (Lampadati)

4.45s

9.60s
-
Tornado (Déclassé)

5.33s

12.58s
-[/table]



Coupes:

 

[table]

Coupes
----------
F620 (Ocelot)

4.30s

9.25s
-
Exemplar (Dewbauchee)

4.78s

9.83s
-[/table]



Sedans:

 

[table]

Sedans
----------
Stratum (Zirconium)

2.35s

7.61s
-
Shafter (Benefactor)

3.88s

8.82s
-
Fugitive (Cheval)

4:18s

[td]9.00s
-[/table]


(More to come. Last updated 05/03/15 )







VIDEOS


For now, here are a couple of videos I made to show that it is possible to drive well with slidey cars active, sorry for bad quality, I have bad internet, I actually cant upload anything, I had to leave my house to get cellular reception and upload the videos via the youtube app, not trying to advertise, just to showcase the Slidey cars cheat.


:THIS TOPIC IS A WIP, ILL BE ADDING MORE CONTENT TO THE OP, ALL IN GOOD TIME FRIENDS:

 

 

SIGN THE PETITION



Edited by Mr Tomato

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kraftwerkd

Wait, so you mean my muscle cars will actually drive like muscle cars?

 

I saw your other thread, and this sounds like a great way to change up the driving. Definitely trying this out with my muscle cars.

 

Thanks

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Mr Tomato

They sure do, enjoy!

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HONKY LIPS

Wait, so you mean my muscle cars will actually drive like muscle cars?

 

I saw your other thread, and this sounds like a great way to change up the driving. Definitely trying this out with my muscle cars.

 

Thanks

I wrote off slidey cars until I came across his previous thread. I was used to always just mashing the throttle and brake from the old style driving. After about 10 mins I was addicted and havent gone back. Muscle cars are not the fastest cars but like he said, each car feels differently, I feel this applies to each car within a class. I love riding in gang territory, flickin the bird then laying a patch, that usually gets a reaction lol. Great write-up and hopefully they will make this an option either on this game or the next.

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Mr Tomato

Thanks for the support @Honky.

 

It's funny you should say that, I like to go down the end of grove street as franklin and cut hoops around the coldesac, for some reason the A.I won't/rarely gets provoked as long as you hold the burnout and don't crash into anything, cops also find it hard to counter your movements when you are sliding, it's like the world of Los santos has never seen a burnout before, good times.

 

Actually, the ?Vapid? Dominator, the ruiner and that other muscle car with the crazy G lean, all go damn fast, just don't handle to well, I'd say, by the sounds of things they all share the same 'engine code' as eachother.

 

I'll be doing reviews and top speed tests on cars and compiling it all here eventually, but here's a good one, with franklins ability and slidey cars combined, I pushed 335mph out of the entity, which is roughly 539kmh, damn fast, but I won't be recording top speeds with the ability.

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B Dawg

After playing around with the Realistic Driving and Flying Mod for GTA IV again, now that I think of it, it's very similar to Slidey Cars, albeit more unforgiving, but that could be because you are using fully upgraded vehicles with better brakes in GTA V correct?

 

I'd love to see the differences between Stock and Upgraded cars while using Slidey Cars :p

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Trevorphilipjfry

I'm so glad you showed mw this cheat mr.tomato. It's actually made driving so much more enjoyable, with a bit of tweaking it could honestly be great.

 

All cars have individual personality

 

Crash physics are much more natural as everyone isn't glued to the road

 

Cars accelerate much faster

 

Cara reach a much higher top speed

 

I don't really think it should be called slidey cars cheat, seeing as it does so much more.

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Cutter De Blanc

I've never actually tried this cheat. Maybe I will someday.

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Vertighost

I tried this with my Futo, to be honest I had to turn it off after a while, but I didn't dislike it I guess I have to experiment more. I love the original handling of the Futo in the rain, I know it's not true drifting but I get a bit of drift out of that machine in the rain on dirt with normal handling. (And did notice nice longer drifts with SC cheat on)

 

I have some questions...

 

How does Slidey Cars act on wet surfaces?

 

Do you think it's only good for some cars and not all? If so, what cars are better and have you driven the Futo around with SC on?

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Mr Tomato

On wet surfaces it is pretty slippery, the good kind.

 

Yeah some cars work better than others, I love driving the super cars, they feel great with the cheat, the futo, I haven't driven in ages but it just needs a little more power I think, usually I'm against drifting in muscle cars but I would recommend the vigero, standard suspension, fully modded otherwise, standard tyres probably too, then lower it with the shooting the middle of the wheels method, experiment with different amounts of low, I usually use lowered fully at the back and lowered half at the front, gives a decent balance.

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PhillBellic

Why is the old topic being hidden?

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HONKY LIPS

I tried this with my Futo, to be honest I had to turn it off after a while, but I didn't dislike it I guess I have to experiment more. I love the original handling of the Futo in the rain, I know it's not true drifting but I get a bit of drift out of that machine in the rain on dirt with normal handling. (And did notice nice longer drifts with SC cheat on)

 

I have some questions...

 

How does Slidey Cars act on wet surfaces?

 

Do you think it's only good for some cars and not all? If so, what cars are better and have you driven the Futo around with SC on?

Im just going to throw this out there, not sure of how in depth you are with the game compared to me, but I have found that for drifting if you let off the accel and tap the e-brake then get back on the throttle its like it drops it down a gear. With slidey cars I can be cruising in town at about 40 mph and tap the x and when I get back on the gas I can basically do a rolling burnout. I plan on making a Surano into a purpose built drift car, it seems to really like to lay the rubber when doing this. I cant comment on other cars since with slidey cars Ive been getting addicted to having one car for awhile since Im into the driving so much now.

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Dock

And here I was thinking it was just a gimmicky cheat :D

 

This is a pretty good topic, and a pretty good "find" I guess! Good job, I'll have to try this soon

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CarlitoDorito

So this cheat makes cars faster too?! I would've been using it ages ago if I'd known. "Slides cars" doesn't sound much like "cars behave differently drive faster and are better".

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HONKY LIPS

So this cheat makes cars faster too?! I would've been using it ages ago if I'd known. "Slides cars" doesn't sound much like "cars behave differently drive faster and are better".

Wicked fast, I feel almost obligated to wire Mr. Tomato $60 since its like I got a second game after learning all of this lol

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Mr Tomato

@phillbellic, I discussed with Tiger prior to creating this topic, we decided it best to remove the old topic, as it was pure speculation and my aim with this topic was to provide information to the community, factual stuff about the cheat.

 

@Honky, by all means I would love the 60 bucks hahaha, glad you are enjoying it so much mate, hope to see more and more people react like you have to learning about it.

Edited by Mr Tomato

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HONKY LIPS

@ Mr Tomato, sorry if I was not using proper thread etiquette when I was quoting everyone in the past. I saw how you refered to me in your last post lol. This is the only forum that I actually belong to. Back on topic, I also hope that people start up pick up on this and maybe hopefully R*. I have been in agreement with your other post that I feel that this was an intentional design by R* to make a more realistic sense of driving and that they bailed in fear that the general population would not take to it. If the cars generally handle the same without it, why should they have better speed and each have greatly different handling if this is not the case. If anything they should.....just feel like they are on ice.....if it is slidey cars, in which case when you make a slight turn going 100mph....or even alot slower....you would fly off of the road no matter what you tried to do.

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Mr Tomato

I haven't got any problems with how you are using the forums and I'm not sure what you're talking about with how I referred to you in the other topic, I haven't a bad word to say about you, not at all.

 

I will be updating this topic when I get the time and I'll be adding in a copy paste email to send to Rockstar for anyone who cares to send it through, it would be great to make R* aware that we as a community are recognising the great work they've put into the vehicle physics, I'd love to get an explanation of what the cheat actually does, at the very least, but ultimately I want this as a menu option, I'd also like it to be refined a little, but, I swing against that as I am worried that they might mess the system up, I obviously think it's practically fine how if is, but if I had the PC version I would be changing a fair bit in the handling lines, but I just still don't know if I could trust R* to do proper job on refinement.

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HONKY LIPS

I haven't got any problems with how you are using the forums and I'm not sure what you're talking about with how I referred to you in the other topic, I haven't a bad word to say about you, not at all.

 

I will be updating this topic when I get the time and I'll be adding in a copy paste email to send to Rockstar for anyone who cares to send it through, it would be great to make R* aware that we as a community are recognising the great work they've put into the vehicle physics, I'd love to get an explanation of what the cheat actually does, at the very least, but ultimately I want this as a menu option, I'd also like it to be refined a little, but, I swing against that as I am worried that they might mess the system up, I obviously think it's practically fine how if is, but if I had the PC version I would be changing a fair bit in the handling lines, but I just still don't know if I could trust R* to do proper job on refinement.

Sorry I worded that wrong saying how you refered to me lol. I meant before I would do like this and quote your post. But the one post you didnt quote my post you put @ Honky Lips......Ive been on forums (reading only for me) where people would bash for someone for not following their posting rules or just picky people not liking how they post. Yes I agree that R* would possibly muck up the handling also. Seems like once a company becomes very profit oriented their product becomes a little more vanilla as time goes. Good example was the makers of MX vs ATV games. They came out with Reflex which was a hit but I think they were bought out by another company and when Alive came out it was basically a $30 game but most of the good features had to be bought as they came out with them. Eventually they ceased to exist and the parent co. sold off the rights and now a new co. is trying to make a fresh go at it with the series. Hopefully R* never gets to CEO driven in the future as this was probably the reason behind the default mechanics like you stated in your other threads.

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Pastry

I haven't really used this cheat much at all. Mabye once. I thought it was just a slidey cheat, but reading this makes me want to master it :)

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kraftwerkd

I tried it with the old Skyline look-alike (name escapes me) recently, and hot damn! What a fun little car to go cruising with. The SC cheat brings so much more character to the car, and when you upgrade it, it's an acceleration monster.

 

Can't wait to start looking at the handling.dat file. This is proving to be very interesting.

 

edit: Oh yeah, the bug with entering your personal garage. It also affects the cheat if you enter your garage while in a vehicle. Entering and exiting a vehicle doesn't solve it, nor does re-inputting the cheat to disable then re-enable it work. Seems like you have to load from a save and try again.

Edited by kraftwerkd

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uNi

Never tried this cheat before, but from your videos seems somewhat interesting, I'll definitely give this one a try.

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Mr Tomato

Enjoying the positivity in this thread, it's hard to reply to people on an iPhone, but I'll try my best.

 

@honky, I get what you were saying now, I totally read it wrong, I @user people because multi quoting and quoting on an iPhone is quite a pain, as far as I can tell quotes are fine, just huge quote trains are messy and annoying, people don't really like it.

 

If anyone wants any help or has a particular question they would like answered, or doesn't feel like I explained something well enough feel free to ask here, or inbox me, it's probably better to do that sort of thing here so that the question and answer is available to anyone who reads the thread, but if I miss your question or whatever I don't mind if it's PM'd

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PhillBellic

Mr Tomato, do you think the effect of this cheat would change much on PC (digital controls)?

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Mr Tomato, do you think the effect of this cheat would change much on PC (digital controls)?

By digital controls I assume you mean keyboard and mouse, sorry if not, I feel silly not knowing for sure right now, anyway, while steering may not be a huge problem, even though the control you have will be no where near as accurate or refined as it is when using an analogue stick, the triggers are basically crucial elements to being able to use the proper throttle and braking control, required to get the most out of the cheat

 

In saying that though, it should still prove a lot better than the standard physics, especially with how over sensitive and twitchy the steering is originally, I would imagine it would be much, much more annoying with only a keyboard than if you were to drive with slidey cars on.

 

I used to play San Andreas on PC and was right into modding, particularly the handling.dat file, the way I got around the minimal amount of control a keyboard has, was to 'feather' or rather repeatedly tap the buttons to get a smoother style of driving, bit of a finger workout.

 

To get the best experience from the driving with slidey cars on though, I would recommend you get an Xbox One controller, just buy the controller, don't pay for a charger pack, because if you have any of those micro USB leads at home (same as Samsung chargers) they are the same port as in the back of xbox controllers.

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PhillBellic

 

Mr Tomato, do you think the effect of this cheat would change much on PC (digital controls)?

By digital controls I assume you mean keyboard and mouse, sorry if not, I feel silly not knowing for sure right now, anyway, while steering may not be a huge problem, even though the control you have will be no where near as accurate or refined as it is when using an analogue stick, the triggers are basically crucial elements to being able to use the proper throttle and braking control, required to get the most out of the cheat

 

In saying that though, it should still prove a lot better than the standard physics, especially with how over sensitive and twitchy the steering is originally, I would imagine it would be much, much more annoying with only a keyboard than if you were to drive with slidey cars on.

 

I used to play San Andreas on PC and was right into modding, particularly the handling.dat file, the way I got around the minimal amount of control a keyboard has, was to 'feather' or rather repeatedly tap the buttons to get a smoother style of driving, bit of a finger workout.

 

To get the best experience from the driving with slidey cars on though, I would recommend you get an Xbox One controller, just buy the controller, don't pay for a charger pack, because if you have any of those micro USB leads at home (same as Samsung chargers) they are the same port as in the back of xbox controllers.

 

Yes, I'm a keyboard, and mouse player. I have an Xbox 360 controller, would that do?

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Mr Tomato

Either one, if they support the vibrations in the triggers for the PC version, you do get that bit of a better feel of what your car is doing, as you can feel loss of traction in the triggers as it starts to happen and can correct throttle/brake pressure accordingly easier.

 

Not saying you need to go get an Xbox One controller, but I would recommend that over an xbox controller like you have, then keyboard.

 

If R* doesn't map the trigger vibrations in someone surely will pretty quickly.

 

Is it easy enough to have both keyboard/mouse and xbox controller all setup and active at the same time? For example you could drive with xbox controller then go to mouse and keyboard seamlessly as you exit a vehicle.

 

When I finally build a PC I plan to make some sort of stand for the controller that comes out from under the desk so that I can do that without having to put down a controller every time I switch.

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Crimson Flam3s

Good news.

 

I have made an important development regarding this cheat, in terms of performance compared to it's normal arcadeish counterpart.

 

Also the discovery of what I would call.. A natural. A vehicle that feels almost like it was designed to be used with this cheat. It has all the advantages without the disadvantage. the exagerated slideyness that other cars feel,it's for the most part, gone.

 

Vid's coming soon, but on the meantime, any guesses?

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B Dawg

Is it an IV car? The Infernus or FIB Buffalo? Obey 9F?

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uNi

So, I did give a try and it's awesome, thanks for the tip. Best time I had driving in V.

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