[WIP|BETA|SA] GTA: Underground - Mod Discussion

[PyroD]

First off I wanna say, great mod. I've been following for a bit.

 

Anyway I know some people have suggested adding more to the map to make it run more east-west than north-south. I figured why not make like a southwestern state in the style of san andreas in a way that it combines real life states into a smaller one. Like maybe a desert state that's a Texas/Arizona hybrid with two, maybe three cities. If you want, I even made a crude map of Firebird (Phoenix parody) that you could use if you like.

[spaceshape]

f*cking Awesome Progress.

I presume this topic will hit 400 pages before 2017.

[Diablosrouge]

I wonder how hard it is to make interiors in the same world as the exterior map. Like, editing the building to make the interior inside it, rather than be teleported to another virtual world.

This would be nice for places like Pizza Stack, King Knuts, even the Diaz mansion (from VCS you have windows in which you can see the exterior map outside and the same thing for Forbes' and Louise's apartments).

 

Imagine if we had the interiors in the same world as the exterior, with windows so people could checkout the sights. VCS tried to implement this in some buildings and it worked. You also have an example from VC near the mainland's VCPD.

[HeySlickThatsMe]

^ it should be easy

But dkluin is making everything with enex markers because most of people voted for "SA Style" in old Poll

[Nihilist.]

 

I wonder how hard it is to make interiors in the same world as the exterior map. Like, editing the building to make the interior inside it, rather than be teleported to another virtual world.

This would be nice for places like Pizza Stack, King Knuts, even the Diaz mansion (from VCS you have windows in which you can see the exterior map outside and the same thing for Forbes' and Louise's apartments).

 

Imagine if we had the interiors in the same world as the exterior, with windows so people could checkout the sights. VCS tried to implement this in some buildings and it worked. You also have an example from VC near the mainland's VCPD.

 

In theory it would be somewhat easy, yes, but easy is not a synonym for good. Open buildings like police garages or certain country locations tend to have problems with weather conditions different than regular sunny days. Just find one and see how they look during a storm, or fog. Modeling a building is one, but making sure it'd look the same in different conditions and times of day is completely different, and would require lots of time and work. Also, I can imagine interiors placed on the world map could impact game's overall performance, especially on weaker PCs.

And last but not least, SA has the most interiors out of all III era GTA games, so isn't it easier to keep them and add missing ones from other games instead of spending hours upon hours to place everything on map, just to realize it doesn't look good?

[dkluin]

Couldn't have said that better myself.

[EsperantoGTA3]

Hey Dkluin if the saint marks restaurant becomes a business would you consider also making the mean street taxis, the Wong Launderette, and the car showroom next to 8-balls purchasable business's in Portland?

[LightVelox]

Couldn't have said that better myself.

will some business(and interiors) have peds inside?

[cj2000]

I wonder how hard it is to make interiors in the same world as the exterior map. Like, editing the building to make the interior inside it, rather than be teleported to another virtual world.

This would be nice for places like Pizza Stack, King Knuts, even the Diaz mansion (from VCS you have windows in which you can see the exterior map outside and the same thing for Forbes' and Louise's apartments).

 

Imagine if we had the interiors in the same world as the exterior, with windows so people could checkout the sights. VCS tried to implement this in some buildings and it worked. You also have an example from VC near the mainland's VCPD.

 

But this is defenetly not SA style. I personly think that interior and exterior world should stay divided. But if you want that ugly mixed interior exterior stuff, youl be hepier with LCxVCXSA mod.

[ILchE]

[Daddy Stalin]

will there be real water in the pools from VC and LC?

[dkluin]

Already done.

[lsm303]

How to install? I start a new game, then crash!

[Coke69]

How to install? I start a new game, then crash!

Oh great! More of these.

 

Either use the help topic or follow the install instructions, it's not that hard.

[Simon_Wales]

How to install? I start a new game, then crash!

look m8 delete everything and start over again. this time please do pay close attention to this video uploaded by WilsonPlays.

here is the link.

this should help you learn how to install this

 

Edited November 30, 2016 by The Happy_Gamer

[lilODINN]

I'd love to create a custom radio station for one of the cities!!. I mix music professionally and can create a logo for the station as well. How do I go about getting my station on the mod?

[dkluin]

It depends on quality. Professional content is much more likely to be included.

[lilODINN]

It depends on quality. Professional content is much more likely to be included.

I will make it so!! Shall I create one and share it to see if the quality is acceptable?

[Arkapil455]

 

 

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The plans described are planned features for Snapshot 3 which are planned down - which means they are pretty big features and so having an explanation on how exactly we want to implement them is needed.

Bullworth gameplay elements

Here's the final concept on how the gameplay mechanics around Bullworth would work. It seems like most people want me to add the "wanted level when hitting children" concept, so that's what we're going with.

 

The concept describes how we could still implement this feature with still giving the player the choice to kill them or not.

 

 

 

Trespassing feature

 

 

Some area's in Bullworth are not meant to be visited. Like in Bully, you get a wanted level when you are trespassing.

 

Now, onto the trespassing. The following list of area's in Bullworth are most likely going to be counted as "private property":

 

The Academy and interiors

The Asylum and interior

The Chemical Power Plant and interior

When entering one of these area's, the player will simply recieve a two star wanted level and is informed (only once, it will not show the message again, like how Rockstar handles informative messaging) that they can't enter certain area's.

 

You can prevent getting a wanted level by simply wearing a prefect uniform inside school grounds (not an asylum uniform) and an asylum uniform (not a prefect uniform) inside the asylum. The Chemical Power Plant simply won't have any way to prevent the player from getting a wanted level.

 

 

Children mechanic

 

 

The concept pretty much remains the same, however I'd make it so the player gets a 4 star wanted level for killing children in any means (running them over also counts), just like how Bully had a feature where hitting a girl would give the player a high wanted level.

 

Result of killing them

Ofcourse, getting SWAT sent after you for murdering children seems unrealistic, but this is GTA, and it will serve as a good way to add children without too much problems.

 

Turf wars

Taking over Bully's clicques is not going to be possible though. This is because I don't want to force people to progress through killing them. They will be given the option to kill them or not.

 

Spawn rate

The spawn rate would be lowered if possible to make children a bit more rare. So people wouldn't get a 4 star wanted level for running over a child by accident often.

 

 

Another concept tied to adding the curfew Bully featured, which will add a realistic touch to Bullworth.

 

 

Bully uses a curfew so we'd have to make a zone based popcycle.dat solution untill we get to add entirely new popcycle zones.

 

This means that children wouldn't be seen at night, but however you can spot them at daytime.

 

It will serve as a realistic touch so it would still feel a bit like the original Bully.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Complete list

Since Snapshot 3 didn't really got started on, and there's no clear list which has the planned content for Snapshot 3, here's one.

 

 

Internal behaviour

 

 

Vice Squad in Vice City (done)

Zone based law enforcement (done)

Completed vehicle special features hack (done, WIP)

Ability to define new game statistics, such as weapon skills (WIP)

Zone type 4 - weather.zon, used to define weather islands which have internal weather arrays, island ID parameter represents weather zone ID (done)

Zone type 5 - forbidden.zon, used to define zones which will give the player a 2 star wanted level when entering them, island ID parameter represents interior ID, it will only give a wanted level if the interior ID is the same

Children mechanics for Bullworth

Saving functions patched (WIP)

Map legend shows all other blips (done)

Implement Bully collectibles and give them statistic values (requires the ability to add new statistics to be done)

Implement Hidden Packages and their original rewards and make them city based (requires the ability to add new statistics to be done)

Find out how the stat menu works and make it display added statistics so players can view custom statistics

 

 

Scripted features

 

 

Lowrider contest locations for Bullworth, Liberty City, Vice City, and Mainland Liberty

Sunshine Auto's race minigame implemented

Grocery shops in Bullworth where spud gun ammo, spray cans, and flowers can be bought

Businesses feature completed (done)

Ability to purchase weapons from Phil's Fully Cocked (done)

Savegame pickups for businesses (done)

Plane travelling feature completed (missing camera cutscenes on arrival)

Train travelling feature completed (Allow people to use the LC Subway to travel around in LC)

Each hideout from Bully available as a purchaseable savehouse (WIP)

GASH available as a new clothes shop (will use SA BETA clothing)

Aquaberry available as a new clothes shop (requires Bullworth clothing edited to fit on CJ)

Prefect outfit available

Asylum outfit available

Leones outfit available (done)

Ammu-Nation feature completed (Ammu-Nation in North Point Mall missing)

Hardware store feature completed (few missing interiors)

Scripted Bullworth lighthouse animation

Bullworth bike races feature completed (requires additional statistic IDs to be available)

Beach parties added to VC

Make up LC races and add a menu script simillar to SA's one but with LC map with races on top

 

 

Traffic

 

 

Bullworth traffic completed

Mainland Liberty traffic completed

Liberty City traffic completed (done)

 

 

Garages

 

 

Add vehicle modification garages (WIP)

Add Pay N Spray garages to VC (done)

Add Pay N Spray garages to LC (done)

Add Pay N Spray garages to Bully

Add vehicle storage garages to VC (WIP)

Add vehicle storage garages to III (WIP)

Add vehicle storage garages to Bully

 

 

Peds

 

 

Convert all III peds (WIP)

Convert all VC peds (WIP)

Convert all Bully peds (WIP)

Make custom MLL peds (done)

 

 

Vehicles

 

 

Convert and make all VC vehicles SA styled (WIP)

Convert and make all III vehicles SA styled (WIP)

Convert and make all Bully vehicles SA styled (WIP)

 

 

Weapons

 

 

Convert all original VC weapons (done)

Convert all original III weapons (done)

Convert all original Bully weapons (WIP)

 

 

Rooftops

 

 

Fix all III rooftops (WIP)

Fix all VC rooftops (WIP)

Fix all Bully rooftops (WIP)

 

 

Interiors

 

 

Convert all VC interiors (done)

Convert all III interiors (done)

Convert all Bully interiors (WIP)

Make all VC interiors enterable (WIP)

Make all III interiors enterable (done)

Make all Bully interiors enterable (WIP)

 

 

Stats

 

 

Add M60 weapon skill

Add M249 weapon skill

Add Ruger weapon skill

Add MP5K weapon skill

Add Skorpion weapon skill

Add BW race statistics

Add VC race statistics

Add LC race statistics

Add Business budget stat (Money spent on businesses)

Add Money collected from businesses stat

Add Hidden Packages VC stat

Add Hidden Packages LC stat

Add BW collectible stats

Add Malibu Club dancing stats

Add Beach Party stats

Add Lowrider location stats

Add Hardware budget (Money spent inside hardware stores)

 

 

 

 

which more things has been done

 

Slash-TV side mission (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (6 votes [8.00%])

Distribution side mission (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (2 votes [2.67%])

Import/export feature for Sunshine Auto's (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (5 votes [6.67%])

All vehicles SA-styled with the ability to tune them (28 votes [37.33%])

All peds converted and implemented (14 votes [18.67%])

Sunshine Auto's races (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (1 votes [1.33%])

Liberty City street races (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (3 votes [4.00%])

Bullworth bike races (utilizes extra statistics visible in stats menu) (3 votes [4.00%])

All are best

[Stefanex]

Hey, when i load a savegame everything resets and puts you back in Grove St. Can you fix this?

BTW, the game randomly crashes when i'm in Bullworth

Edited December 1, 2016 by Stefanex

[Simon_Wales]

 

It depends on quality. Professional content is much more likely to be included.

I will make it so!! Shall I create one and share it to see if the quality is acceptable?

 

yes lets see how you do. i bet you will do an awesome job

 

here's an example for ya to learn from

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcBz4ZBJ16g&t=211s

or click on this link here witch is updated. unlike the youtube video.

https://soundcloud.com/user120709582/project-danny4

Edited December 1, 2016 by The Happy_Gamer

[Daddy Stalin]

will there be also map areas from VCS and LCS?

 

also, will the VCS vicepoint mall interior added? it has more detail

Edited December 1, 2016 by Flusak1235

[dkluin]

 

 

It depends on quality. Professional content is much more likely to be included.

I will make it so!! Shall I create one and share it to see if the quality is acceptable?

 

yes lets see how you do. i bet you will do an awesome job

 

here's an example for ya to learn from

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcBz4ZBJ16g&t=211s

or click on this link here witch is updated. unlike the youtube video.

https://soundcloud.com/user120709582/project-danny4

 

I doubt anyone would even think about learning from you.

[Rachel Amber]

hello again spam...

[Daddy Stalin]

will there be the feature that when you enter toyz,top fun or berkley rc van

 

you can select rc vehicles (also custom and from other games)

[Ruvix]

Don't want to spam more but I found something interesting
https://www.behance.net/gallery/1397227/Manhunt-Art
This is an official Manhunt Concept Art
Beside some screens are similar to the game map some of them were never seen before
Like this one

Or this

 

Maybe it would help/give you inspiration dkluin to model CC

[Simon_Wales]

why thank you mr beta hunter i am most positive this will help our lord danny improve and get his inspiration for sure.

 

and for a fact he might even credit you in his work.

 

to say a special thank you. for helping him out.

[ILOVEFOOTBALL95]

lol I said that as well months ago now, that the rear of the interior version of saint mark's bistro should made to be in the game world I did say other people would want the things I suggested but some people just don't listen and have to know better but nvm, people like dkluin will never learn and keep ignoring people lol

Edited December 1, 2016 by ILOVEFOOTBALL95

[AlexP19]

Hi,I have a problem with my game. All of the loadscreens are white and when i press new game it crashes instantly. Please help me!!

[Arkapil455]

The moddb mod of the year 9days left