[WIP|BETA|SA] GTA: Underground - Mod Discussion

[dkluin]

Today I did some small tweaking with Bullworth's IDE file.

 

Since Bully doesn't feature the "disable backface culling IDE flag" SA uses, and instead makes all models have it disabled, alot of models now use this flag.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2016 by dkluin

[Blue]

@Spartan, what do you think:

 

 

[Yhdf]

Yeah, I dunno about this, but if you want, you can use a few of my cars too, @dkluin. Might sound like self promotion or anything, but nah, today I'm feeling kind.

 

 

 

PM me if you want it, I dunno.

I loved the car, imo it would be great having more people on the team

[Blue]

I used to be on the team, but Danny doesn't trust me for my past I guess. Best I can do is help out with a car here and there.

[universetwisters]

Danny, have you considered releasing Bulworth as it's own map? I asked a few pages ago but it got overlooked.

[_Zeron]

I used to be on the team, but Danny doesn't trust me for my past I guess. Best I can do is help out with a car here and there.

What past?

[Blue]

It's kind of a long story, but I changed ever since.

[universetwisters]

Speaking of Bullworth, I found this interesting looking thing about 3D Bullworth sh*t here.

[Nagletz]

Speaking of Bullworth, I found this interesting looking thing about 3D Bullworth sh*t here.

 

Interested. Kart track may used as drift track, if Danny realize this.

[Rachel Amber]

@Spartan, what do you think:

 

 

thats nice!

[dkluin]

Well, I like the vehicle however I don't see where I could use it.

[Spartan_112]

@Spartan, what do you think:

 

 

I kinda like it. But what 'bout smaller rear bumper and black stripe at the rear.

 

 

 

 

[dkluin]

Also, I want to convert some extra interiors today.

 

Will be enterable too.

[Daddy Stalin]

when i buy a safehouse that uses an interior for other safehouses, like i buy a safehouse near LS airport and when i save and exit it, i will exit in a LV safehouse

[dkluin]

Tell fastman92 that his ENEX hack has a broken savegame patch.

 

Seriously, I don't know why others have that issue while I don't. Won't fix anything.

Edited September 28, 2016 by dkluin

[Daddy Stalin]

is there a chance of adding the yellow circles to all airports?

[dkluin]

It's possible, although I didn't figure that stuff out yet. It will be done though.

 

Maybe it's based on weather zones, however if that were the case, I would've found the link earlier, or maybe I just didn't notice it.

[Daddy Stalin]

you can add health pickups to all hospitals in SA too

[dkluin]

SA adds this by default...

[Daddy Stalin]

will be multiplayer in works when singleplayer gets finished?

[SparkzKLX]

cheesehead

Edited September 28, 2016 by Jestic

[dkluin]

Here's the final concept on how the gameplay mechanics around Bullworth would work. It seems like most people want me to add the "wanted level when hitting children" concept, so that's what we're going with.

 

The concept describes how we could still implement this feature with still giving the player the choice to kill them or not.

 

 

 

Trespassing feature

 

 

Some area's in Bullworth are not meant to be visited. Like in Bully, you get a wanted level when you are trespassing.

 

Now, onto the trespassing. The following list of area's in Bullworth are most likely going to be counted as "private property":

The Academy and interiorsThe Asylum and interiorThe Chemical Power Plant and interior

When entering one of these area's, the player will simply recieve a two star wanted level and is informed (only once, it will not show the message again, like how Rockstar handles informative messaging) that they can't enter certain area's.

 

You can prevent getting a wanted level by simply wearing a prefect uniform inside school grounds (not an asylum uniform) and an asylum uniform (not a prefect uniform) inside the asylum. The Chemical Power Plant simply won't have any way to prevent the player from getting a wanted level.

 

 

Children mechanic

 

 

The concept pretty much remains the same, however I'd make it so the player gets a 4 star wanted level for killing children in any means (running them over also counts), just like how Bully had a feature where hitting a girl would give the player a high wanted level.

 

Result of killing them

Ofcourse, getting SWAT sent after you for murdering children seems unrealistic, but this is GTA, and it will serve as a good way to add children without too much problems.

 

Turf wars

Taking over Bully's clicques is not going to be possible though. This is because I don't want to force people to progress through killing them. They will be given the option to kill them or not.

 

Spawn rate

The spawn rate would be lowered if possible to make children a bit more rare. So people wouldn't get a 4 star wanted level for running over a child by accident often.

 

 

Another concept tied to adding the curfew Bully featured, which will add a realistic touch to Bullworth.

 

 

Bully uses a curfew so we'd have to make a zone based popcycle.dat solution untill we get to add entirely new popcycle zones.

 

This means that children wouldn't be seen at night, but however you can spot them at daytime.

 

It will serve as a realistic touch so it would still feel a bit like the original Bully.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2016 by dkluin

[TheMadeMan]

That's it Danny. That's alright for Bullworth

[Davve95]

What about having the Bully song playing when you enter the school interior?

Edited September 28, 2016 by Davve95

[universetwisters]

ill just let this sh*t mod to rot with the european f*ckers

 

>Almost every Australian is a descendant of a European criminal

 

 

Also Danny, why you ignoring my posts about Bullworth?

[dkluin]

Have a new screenshot which shows the Boy's Dorm exterior.

 

 

 

 

 

[universetwisters]

That would be nice as it's own map

[Daddy Stalin]

cheesehead

u mean me?

 

im not offended, call me how u want

[Blue]

 

@Spartan, what do you think:

 

 

I kinda like it. But what 'bout smaller rear bumper and black stripe at the rear.

 

 

 

 

Good idea. Thought of a middle stripe on it too, and a short spoiler.

 

@danny If you want, you could just make it a generic vehicle, spawning commonly in every city, or maybe just Liberty City, since it's the one to use the latest vehicles and others in the GTA timeline. Then again, that's my guess.

 

cheesehead

Sparkz Kyle Lemon Xenon (oh look, I rhymed), in the name of the President of the United States of Murica and the court of the city of San Francisco, you are now sentenced to live a life of pain on the Alcatraz Island, along with Mr T and his homebois. Please, proceed to the judge's orders and leave this court in safety, where you will be given a chance to legally fornicate yourself. Dismissed! Edited September 28, 2016 by NFX

[Daddy Stalin]

this mod is extremely unstable, my game keeps randomly crashing to a black screen and cursor. and i have to reboot my PC every time it happens because i can't ctrl alt delete or do anything. but the game audio still runs in the background. this only happens when i travel to liberty city and it's so annoying! i've reinstalled it twice and reinstalled my game already. still happening.. and also, alt tabbing out of the game forces me to reboot my PC because i get a black screen and cursor after alt tabbing and i can't do anything. this mod is so frustrating, i'm not gonna use it until these bugs are fixed.

 

have you got any mods installed on your SA before installing gta underground?

some mods can overwrite files that gta underground overwrites, it disables some mod code and the game is corrupted