Braindawg Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Maybe Rockstar might have delayed V not only to polish it's performance but also to implement all kinds of anti-pirating coding or programs or something in order to prevent people from illegaly downloading it... Even though hackers always find a way to crack any given game but what if V has some sort of new protection system along the lines of Denuvo DRM or something... (Been confirmed it's not using DRM btw) Remember APB: Reloaded? I remember searching all over the net to try and find a torr- a way to get it without paying back when it was a cloded beta... couldn't find anything!! Maybe it will require a max payne like authentication via Social Club(more than likely) to play, every time you launch the game... What do you guys think? sasuke78200 and Sergiu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sikee Atric Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Not DRM protection.... Maybe they have held off to solve the New-Gen server issues, lobby problems, disconnects etc, since we basically joining the same servers and if these problems are now, a stable 4 for Heist scenarios could be an issue. I sat and thought about it last night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyojinEM Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) No i doubt it Delay and polish are just Rockstars favourite words to us PC gamer Edited February 23, 2015 by emiliumium Agathodaemon, robban, rpsgc and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurotrash Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Maybe Rockstar might have delayed V not only to polish it's performance but also to implement all kinds of anti-pirating coding or programs or something in order to prevent people from illegaly downloading it.. It makes sense, especially since the delay decision coincided somewhat with the release of Dragon Age Inquisition, which featured a new uncrackable DRM program called Denuvo that the communists cracked two days later. GTA V PC was rumored to use Denuvo as well, I'm guessing that after it failed so epicly to protect Dragon Age from the despicable pirates they decided to delay the game to implement a new form of uncrackable DRM. Good luck with that C*. Though to be honest, I think the reason is the same it always was: to boost sales. Edited February 23, 2015 by Eurotrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 No i doubt it Delay and polish are just Rockstars favourite words to us PC gamer I don't know if I agree with that, particularly when it comes to GTA. III, VC, and SA were all released on PC about 6 months after they launched as PS2 exclusives. That was because they had signed an exclusivity deal with Sony, though. I think that GTA V is a far more sophisticated game with a vastly more complex game engine, and porting it to the PC, where they have to test a zillion different combinations of GPU's, CPU's, Mobo's, and other components must be a daunting task. I know a lot of PC gamers feel slighted by devs, but in some ways, it makes sense that PC games are sometimes delayed. There are an almost infinite number of combinations of components which can all cause their own brand of compatibility issues. it must be tough to code a complex game onto PC when there are hundreds of different graphics cards, dozens of Mobo's, a plethora of CPU's, different hard drive configurations, sound cards, and on and on. When devs create a game for the PS3, even with different models, they are programming for basically the same console across the board. Same with the XBox 360. I am sure it is similar to the PS4 and XBox One, but since GTA was coded originally for last gen consoles, it also took a while to get them ready for the new machines. I don't think that devs are collectively wringing their hands, laughing like Boris Karloff, twirling their mustaches, and trying to stick it to PC owners here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It makes sense, especially since the delay decision coincided somewhat with the release of Dragon Age Inquisition, which featured a new uncrackable DRM program called Denuvo that the communists cracked two days later. GTA V PC was rumored to use Denuvo as well, I'm guessing that after it failed so epicly to protect Dragon Age from the despicable pirates they decided to delay the game to implement a new form of uncrackable DRM. Good luck with that C*. You could stop sh*tposting and read into something before you mouthoff, if you did you would know that the one of the founders of Denuvo denied the relationship with GTA V way before it was even delayed. http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/06/grand-theft-auto-v-pc-version-to-use-denuvo-drm-on-top-of-steam/ The delay was confirmed to be for polishing reasons. Do you want a good game like Max Payne 3, or do you want a piece of sh*t like the new Assassins Creed. Any delay is a good delay, no matter what you say. If you don't like developers taking their time to make the best game they can then you should go back to consoles. http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52374/gtav-pc-new-release-date-first-screens-and-system-specs Our apologies for the slight shift in the date but the game requires a few extra weeks of testing and polish to make it as good as can be. Uncle Sikee Atric and Dock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieProGamer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Maybe Rockstar might have delayed V not only to polish it's performance but also to implement all kinds of anti-pirating coding or programs There's a torrent floating around that's 18GB that'll give anyone that tries to download the game a nasty shock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindawg Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 LOL Just the fact it's 18GB is bogus! Although let's not turn this thread into a "theres a 18gig torrent online" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieProGamer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 LOL Just the fact it's 18GB is bogus! Although let's not turn this thread into a "theres a 18gig torrent online" Agreed! Final post on the matter: It's 18GB to be believable, nobody in their right state of mind will download a 22MB file that promises San Andreas to the fullest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberfur Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Maybe Rockstar might have delayed V not only to polish it's performance but also to implement all kinds of anti-pirating coding or programs or something in order to prevent people from illegaly downloading it.. It makes sense, especially since the delay decision coincided somewhat with the release of Dragon Age Inquisition, which featured a new uncrackable DRM program called Denuvo that the communists cracked two days later. GTA V PC was rumored to use Denuvo as well, I'm guessing that after it failed so epicly to protect Dragon Age from the despicable pirates they decided to delay the game to implement a new form of uncrackable DRM. Good luck with that C*. Though to be honest, I think the reason is the same it always was: to boost sales. What do communists have to do with this? But to stick on topic, the game was probably not delayed to make some super good DRM piracy protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIndianRobin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I completely agree with OP here. I'd say that the game is delayed to make GTAO foolproof from hackers and cheaters. Rockstar are damn serious about GTAO and I think they're taking their time to make GTAO hackproof. God I hope they do so. If it's the same sh*t as GTA IV MP, then i'm gonna throw sh*t at Cockstar. And anybody who believes that polishing BS are being complete ignorant C* fanboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8VANTAGE Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Has anyone noticed on the SteamDB where it shows when the game is being played/by how many that each time other players join, they are only on for a very small period of time. Maybe the game has some stability issues in the multiplayer department? There may be some other bugs that have been fixed or patched during this extra development time which are also present in the console versions. I suspect there will be a patch in a couple of weeks time which will fix a few bugs and add the online heists. PC players will get this patch day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dx2words Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 the game will be cracked and hacked and pirated anyway, its imposible that a game can fight that. But obviously its better buying the original game for the online experience and al that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dock Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 the game will be cracked and hacked and pirated anyway, its imposible that a game can fight that. But obviously its better buying the original game for the online experience and al that stuff. That may be so, but they certainly can try. And seeing as, unlike GTA IV, GTA Online is hosted by their Social Club servers, and not with the aid of GFWL or whatever, Online will be off limits for cracked users (probably). Their no doubt working on anti cheat stuff, etc. I'm assuming. They won't stop modding as much as they did in IV IMHO, because they know modding is a key part of PC versions of GTA games for the community (whether they like it or not), But they might be implementing checks for GTA:O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick930930 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Maybe Rockstar might have delayed V not only to polish it's performance but also to implement all kinds of anti-pirating coding or programs or something in order to prevent people from illegaly downloading it... Even though hackers always find a way to crack any given game but what if V has some sort of new protection system along the lines of Denuvo DRM or something... (Been confirmed it's not using DRM btw) Remember APB: Reloaded? I remember searching all over the net to try and find a torr- a way to get it without paying back when it was a cloded beta... couldn't find anything!! Maybe it will require a max payne like authentication via Social Club(more than likely) to play, every time you launch the game... What do you guys think? You should be ashamed for trying to illegally download a game. Not even just the act of illegally downloading a game.. but a game like APB... that game is absolute pure garbage. fefenc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..GhosT Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Probably to push the release into their new business year to write better numbers. robban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChumCrumpet Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Spoiler Alert, there was nothing to polish. It was just an excuse because they're not done with the game. Polish implies the game is finished and they're trying to make that much better. I can bet you anything this is not the case. MythAlex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaiyanHazza Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Spoiler Alert, there was nothing to polish. It was just an excuse because they're not done with the game. Polish implies the game is finished and they're trying to make that much better. I can bet you anything this is not the case. or is it because they want more money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringPedsDumbCops Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 They delayed it because not enough people pre-ordered. They hate PC gamers and they're releasing it very grudgingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindawg Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) As funny as it may sound money is not their main factor. It's the fun factor actually. Think about it: if GTA: San Andreas (2004) is STILL very actively played, not only singleplayer, but SAMP(mainly), MTA and iOS versions... It's also the number one downloaded videogame torrent online! GTA V HAS to have the same impact on people. It has to be this generation's GTA: San Andreas. We(90s kids) played GTA:SA in our teens, kids and teens are growing up playing V. They don't care for old games, not mainly anyway. tl:dr: GTA V has to be good enough on PC to last Rockstar at least another 10 years if for 15. If it won't, it won't be as successful as GTA: San Andreas, meaning it will be a failure. Edited February 23, 2015 by Braindawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 As funny as it may sound money is not their main factor. It's the fun factor actually. Think about it: if GTA: San Andreas (2004) is STILL very actively played, not only singleplayer, but SAMP(mainly), MTA and iOS versions... It's also the number one downloaded videogame torrent online! GTA V HAS to have the same impact on people. It has to be this generation's GTA: San Andreas. We(90s kids) played GTA:SA in our teens, kids and teens are growing up playing V. They don't care for old games, not mainly anyway. tl:dr: GTA V has to be good enough on PC to last Rockstar at least another 10 years if for 15. If it won't, it won't be as successful as GTA: San Andreas, meaning it will be a failure. I seriously doubt this is going to happen. San Andreas (and III, and VC) are all absolute magic, like lightning in a bottle. Don't get me wrong, GTA V is a great game, well done, incredibly well acted, scripted, and written. But in my honest opinion, nothing they do to this game is going to give it the staying power of the PS2 GTA games. It just doesn't have that elusive "magic," well at least not to me. Not insulting GTA V. I am playing it now on the PS3. Just saying what I think about the lasting appeal of San Andreas. MythAlex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't really think it's fair to say that right now. I mean, SA is 10 years old. GTA V is just one year old. I'm sure you will think differently in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't really think it's fair to say that right now. I mean, SA is 10 years old. GTA V is just one year old. I'm sure you will think differently in 10 years. I don't know about that. Look, obviously this is a very subjective discussion, but I knew from the first time I played San Andreas it was going to be an instant classic, played for decades. When I play GTA V, it feels more like a great game that I have gotten many hours from, and will probably get a bunch more, but it simply doesn't have the same effect on me as San Andreas. For all its technical superiority over the PS2 GTA games, there still is a little too much realism and restriction in the game for me to enjoy it as much as the wild, untamed, unbridled freedom of San Andreas. MythAlex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't really think it's fair to say that right now. I mean, SA is 10 years old. GTA V is just one year old. I'm sure you will think differently in 10 years. I don't know about that. Look, obviously this is a very subjective discussion, but I knew from the first time I played San Andreas it was going to be an instant classic, played for decades. When I play GTA V, it feels more like a great game that I have gotten many hours from, and will probably get a bunch more, but it simply doesn't have the same effect on me as San Andreas. For all its technical superiority over the PS2 GTA games, there still is a little too much realism and restriction in the game for me to enjoy it as much as the wild, untamed, unbridled freedom of San Andreas. That's why we have mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) San Andreas has mods as well. I am not saying there won't be some people playing V years down the road, only that I don't see it having the same staying power as San Andreas. Aside from everything else, when San Andreas launched, the selection of sandbox games was abysmal and very limited, even more so in GTA III's time, obviously. However, now there are a ton of really fun sandbox games out, all with really nice graphics and some (at least in my opinion) more fun than GTA V. In 2004, when San Andreas launched on the PS2, it had no competition, and nobody was debating "which sandbox game was best," because other than the complete lackluster games like The Getaway, True Crime, and Mafia (which was a little better than the rest of the herd at least) GTA had no peer. Now if you want to say that GTA V is better than Saint's Row games, better than Just Cause 2, better than some of the other popular titles in the genre, then fine, that's your opinion, and a lot of people would agree with you. But there are enough sandbox games now, all of good quality, that GTA is no longer the only game in town. Add to that my points about San Andreas having a great deal more sandbox freedom and being less restrictive, I think what we have now in GTA V is a very good game, one of the best on the market at the moment. But I just don't see the staying power, at least not to anywhere near the same extent as San Andreas. Edited February 23, 2015 by ChiroVette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandTeaRedemption Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 San Andreas has mods as well. I am not saying there won't be some people playing V years down the road, only that I don't see it having the same staying power as San Andreas. Aside from everything else, when San Andreas launched, the selection of sandbox games was abysmal and very limited, even more so in GTA III's time, obviously. However, now there are a ton of really fun sandbox games out, all with really nice graphics and some (at least in my opinion) more fun than GTA V. In 2004, when San Andreas launched on the PS2, it had no competition, and nobody was debating "which sandbox game was best," because other than the complete lackluster games like The Getaway, True Crime, and Mafia (which was a little better than the rest of the herd at least) GTA had no peer. Now if you want to say that GTA V is better than Saint's Row games, better than Just Cause 2, better than some of the other popular titles in the genre, then fine, that's your opinion, and a lot of people would agree with you. But there are enough sandbox games now, all of good quality, that GTA is no longer the only game in town. Add to that my points about San Andreas having a little more sandbox freedom and being less restrictive, I think what we have now in GTA V is a ery good game, one of the best on the market at the moment. But I just don't see the staying power, at least not to anywhere near the same extent as San Andreas. I don't think other sandbox games come close to gta 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't think other sandbox games come close to gta 5. Well, that's your opinion, and I certainly respect it. But I think that any of the Saint's Row games are as good in some ways, better in others, and not as good in still other ways. I would also say the same about Just Cause 2, and though it isn't out yet, Just Cause 3 is coming soon and I think it will be awesome. Now this is no dig against GTA V. It's still a great game. But while GTA has the name recognition and many people would agree with you, there are also many, all over the web, that would consider this at least a debatable position. My whole point is that in 2004, you didn't have this controversy as VERY FEW people who were sandbox fans would have debated the issue because the choices back then were pretty bleak. But for the first time in GTA's history, you actually have a sizable number of people who think other games in the genre are just as good or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foffy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I would hope the delay was to improve upon their previous efforts. Save for Max Payne, their efforts on PC have always, always been lukewarm. The 3D era games are missing significant things right out of the box that other versions of the game have in terms of game assets that it astounds me. I do think GTA V will have legs on PC, if only for GTA Online. PC is probably the place where that experience will live longest, assuming Rockstar supports it. And even if they don't the community can make unofficial servers to keep the title alive, just in the same way the PC community has kept long-dead online only games like Phantasy Star Online alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDDICE Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 There's going to be a massive virus outbreak on the 24th. RedIndianRobin and MythAlex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaruliar Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Polishing their wallet for the peasant's money, i supposed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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