Red DEAD Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) This would have been interesting... These three guys (Michael, Trevor, and Brad) meeting up 10 years later with a more intense and better story. I personally believe the story would have been way more interesting. (I liked Franklin don't get me wrong) Little is know about Brad but it would have been cool to see his character open up way more if he never got killed. Like, how did he get into the robbing stickup lifestyle, his relationship with both Michael and Franklin, and more... Where would his Safehouse be? What would his Personal Vehicle be? What would be his clothing style? Edited February 21, 2015 by Red DEAD Turkey Shenanigans 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrowls Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 According to Lester, Brad was a selfish dick. I would have never played as Brad because of his personality. However there is always room for a Pre-Prologue DLC. J Cobra, lofu_agfy and Zello 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066998592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I would rather play as him in a Prequel DLC North Yankton 2004 anyone? Edited February 21, 2015 by Zello lofu_agfy, theGTAking101 and Jokeman123 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066998615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolkXue Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Brad seemed like a loser... One of those guys you wouldn't give a ride to in high school... J Cobra, Turkey Shenanigans and lofu_agfy 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066998676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetta ™ Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 While it'd be interesting, it wouldn't really work out for the best, he's not too well developed as a character and...I don't know, he'd just feel out of place in V's storyline. lofu_agfy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066998811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Apparently Trevor and Michael, lester too, thought brad was an dick. Trevor is a psycho who eats people, brad is a guy who brags about smashing a woman's face up against glass. Despite trevor doing more horrible things, he's still kind of likeable, brad really wouldn't be. He's drive a golf cart I think, the ones in sandy shores, live in a trailer and dress like a tramp. Similar to Trevor actually. Frito-Man and lofu_agfy 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warden Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It was so stupid to make Brad an asshole. Wouldn't you have loved it to find out that Michael got a loving family man killed? Instead, they gave us Brad the asshole, who Trevor eventually says he doesn't care about anyway. Red DEAD and lofu_agfy 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeilona777 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I do think that Franklin is the most useless protag in the game. Franklin seems to be that uninteresting character that was put in the game just to fill space. I blame Rockstar for this. Before GTAV was released, i was most excited to play as Franklin, as i thought that he would be most likely to have the best side activities and whatever, but Rockstar messed it up. I do think it would have been a better story if Brad replaced Franklin. Then Michael and Trevor could have busted him out of prison, and then all three could return to their old way of life. Brad, Michael and Trevor's story would have been epic, but only if rockstar avoided the whole ''slave for the bureau'' storyline. Michael, Trevor and Brad could have set up their own crew/gang, and the story could have had emphasis on Michael, Trevor and Brad doing heists AND having issues with other organisations that either want to rob their stolen stuff or mess with them for whatever other reason. That would have made GTAV, The best GTA to date. Edited February 21, 2015 by mariana_dm1989 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miscer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 if anyone would replace franklin it should of been lamar lamar is easily the best character lofu_agfy, Frito-Man, Turkey Shenanigans and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 While it'd be interesting, it wouldn't really work out for the best, he's not too well developed as a character and...I don't know, he'd just feel out of place in V's storyline. Under developed characters are GTA V's forte. If you ask me he'd fit right in. Tycek, Vendetta ™, gunziness and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringPedsDumbCops Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think it would have worked well. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazel Mae Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Goddamn that screenshot is ugly Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He'd be just as under-developed as every other character. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshio_maxoS Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 A Pre-Sequel DLC with Brad... sounds kinda awesome! Zello 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1066999446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 How do you guys know this stuff about Brad being an selfish asshole who would be beat up women and brag about it? I don't remember any conversation that Trevor and Michael talk about him like this, the only one I remember is Trevor saying he was a dick. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067000008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp9865 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 How do you guys know this stuff about Brad being an selfish asshole who would be beat up women and brag about it? I don't remember any conversation that Trevor and Michael talk about him like this, the only one I remember is Trevor saying he was a dick. It's in the prologue Brad: Did you see, when i put the bitches face into the glass. Mike: yeah, you're a real stallion. Trevor: bahbahbahbahbah. People really don't pay attention to the game do they? lofu_agfy and J Cobra 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067000185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Badgirl Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I wouldn't like it. Brad seemed like a real jackass and I wouldn't want to play as him. lofu_agfy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067000944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurotrash Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think you mean Franklin and Michael. If Brad hadn't died, him and Trevor would have probably found and killed Michael since he's a rat.And since Michael brought Franklin in, he wouldn't have joined either. So GTA V would have 2 protagonists. If they wouldn't have killed Michael, it would've had 4. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDeadAmerica Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) if anyone would replace franklin it should of been lamar lamar is easily the best character I wanted Lamar to be killed off to be honest, he annoyed me so much. Having said that, he was an interesting character to have in the game but I couldn't have played him as a protag. The problem with Franklin is he could have had more interesting activities associated with him. I think they should have expanded on the stealing special cars for Devon missions, with more activities based on a similar idea, and importing/exporting such vehicles. Its also a shame we don't have the option to purchase the former car showroom that he used to work at, that would have been awesome: owning and running a car garage, (and doing them up/repairing them at LS Customs), selling cars, stealing or buying them in the first place etc. I know there's the taxi place, but that's less exciting to me. But, the role of sensible middleman to two ageing conflicting psychopaths worked quite well to me. The narrative was also more interesting because of the betrayal associated with Brad. I Would have also loved to have seen a fourth protag as a likeable cop who spends half of the game trying to find the culprits behind the Jewell Store Job and other LS based crimes from the games' early missions, finally realizing their targets are Michael, Franklin and then Trevor, and then pursuing them. Then when he realizes these three are carrying out criminal activity at the behest of Steve Haines and Dave, a takedown of these corrupt FIB agents could have ensued, possibly with the help of the other 3 protags, with The Wrap Up being the culmination of this. Give him a likeable, not annoying, polar-opposite-of-the-de-santas family to protect against LS gangs so you actually care about this guy. And then you could have brought back vigilante missions with the police, with it feeling appropriate, in many ways the cherry on top of the cake. Edited February 21, 2015 by RedDeadAmerica Lemoyne outlaw 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS4NT0SK1LL3RV Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Franklin had so much cut missions, analysing his trailer, where's the shootout at night with the ballas? (Not The Long Stretch it was on Grove ST), where's the "Enjoy the hoes homie!" part? And many others. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Well if Frank never met Mike GTA V would never take place. Think about it. Frank met Mike while he was repoing that car. Mike told him to come by for a drink. Frank comes over then they get the boat, and without frank, there would be no way to get it, since Mike was on his own, and Frank was the one who suggested to get hte boat, and so on. The event that kicked off 5 was Mike pulling the house down, and without Frank, that wouldn't happen. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahmatic Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I don't like the idea, to be honest. It would've made free roam much worse. Many like Franklin because of the variety he adds to free roaming. While we don't know much about Brad, he seemed very dull. Not sure what he would've actually added to this game. Franklin wasn't the problem, the story was. They tried making the story go so many different directions with so few missions. They should've had them focus on one goal, and heists should've been scrapped. The idea of heists was great, but it didn't work out. My idea would've been to start the game with Franklin quitting Merryweather. It would go into a little detail about how long he worked for them and why he's choosing to leave. It would piss off Devin Weston who would then attempt to have Merryweather kill Franklin. Michael would later have a separate incident with Merryweather and he would also become a target. Franklin and Michael would coincidentally meet and decide to team up. After a few close calls, Michael would decide to call his old friend Trevor, knowing that he is a pilot and his aggression could be useful. They'd each buy safehouses. Real safehouses, not mansions. Small apartments with back alley entrances or warehouse-type places. They'd use it to plan everything out. The majority of the story would be about two things. The first would be their attempts to make merryweather look bad in the media; get the public and the government against them. The second would be back and forth attacks. Various types of attacks. It would not become repetitive. Each mission would be completely different. There would occasionally be other missions such as a bank robbery so the protags could get enough money to buy certain items or machines. I could go on and on, but alas, it's only my thought of a story that I would much more thoroughly enjoy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorphilipjfry Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I wonder what Brads special ability would have been? Being able to ride horses really fast because he's "a real stallion" lofu_agfy and jp9865 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrowls Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Franklin had so much cut missions, analysing his trailer, where's the shootout at night with the ballas? (Not The Long Stretch it was on Grove ST), where's the "Enjoy the hoes homie!" part? And many others. The Grove St part is Hood Safari at night, they used masks in the original. As for Enjoy the Hoes, I think it's part of hanging out. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke. Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Well if Frank never met Mike GTA V would never take place. Think about it. Frank met Mike while he was repoing that car. Mike told him to come by for a drink. Frank comes over then they get the boat, and without frank, there would be no way to get it, since Mike was on his own, and Frank was the one who suggested to get hte boat, and so on. The event that kicked off 5 was Mike pulling the house down, and without Frank, that wouldn't happen. Amanda still would've cheated on Michael, so yes, he would still pull the house down in a fit of rage, which would lead to him having to rob the jewel store, which would lead to him becoming the FIB's bitch and Trevor finding out. If Amanda never cheated, the story would be much different. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067001861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If Franklin never helped with the boat, I'm guessing Jimmy would have been killed. So that's a bonus. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067002107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATMANYOU2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I do think that Franklin is the most useless protag in the game. Franklin seems to be that uninteresting character that was put in the game just to fill space. I blame Rockstar for this. Before GTAV was released, i was most excited to play as Franklin, as i thought that he would be most likely to have the best side activities and whatever, but Rockstar messed it up. I do think it would have been a better story if Brad replaced Franklin. Then Michael and Trevor could have busted him out of prison, and then all three could return to their old way of life. Brad, Michael and Trevor's story would have been epic, but only if rockstar avoided the whole ''slave for the bureau'' storyline. Michael, Trevor and Brad could have set up their own crew/gang, and the story could have had emphasis on Michael, Trevor and Brad doing heists AND having issues with other organisations that either want to rob their stolen stuff or mess with them for whatever other reason. That would have made GTAV, The best GTA to date. Franklin does have swag to him compared to the others though. They could have made Franklin's character more interesting if they were going to use him as the main protagonist. Like giving Franklin a side gig on taking pictures of animals, really Zello 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067002168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 if Brad was in on V..... then that means the final antagonist/ending would have to be between killing Dave, the FBI Guy who helped conceal Mike's identity or letting him live and tellin' Brad and Trevor the truth.... and then Michael would probably do a lot of missions for Dave, so he wouldn't tell the others what really happened.... that makes Michael the main focus in this game, and Franklin would be a NPC friend instead of a player. would be epic, if you kill Dave it would probably end up being that, the other two wouldn't want to deal with Michael for being so defensive about the past.... you let him live,they might accept it or...Mike dies? or Trevor? or Brad....again? what do you guys think about this? IMO GTAV Would be more serious then IV's story if it took my route... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067002736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOOBASTEEB Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It wouldn't really have worked I don't think. The good idea with franklin is that he isn't involved at all at the start and brings a whole new (compared to M and T) side to the story. I don't like frank but the fact he is separate from those two at the start makes it better for the player as you are learning about the past along with frank Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067002784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Shenanigans Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 But then there would've been no whole 'Michael betraying Brad and Trevor' storyline. lofu_agfy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/768327-what-if-brad-replaced-franklin/#findComment-1067002800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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