Muscle Elimination Game

[TCMike]

 

Well, they were called pony cars because they were smaller and lighter than the big boy muscle cars being built at the time. Fast forward 40 years and they've grown in size and weight, to be some of the largest and heaviest cars those companies now build. They definitely don't seem like little ponies anymore. More like Clydesdales. lol

It's more than you think, long hood short deck with an open grill, also had to be affordable.

 

I don't think body shape played any big role in it. The Mustang set the stage and everyone else followed suit, copying Ford's formula. As far as affordability goes, some Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers with the biggest engine options and all the bells and whistles were not very cheap. They were often more expensive than their muscle car big brothers.

 

But without larger, heavier, and more powerful cars to compare themselves with, the term 'pony car' quickly lost most of it's meaning imo. Especially when they themselves grew in size, weight, and power to fill the gaps left by the recently deceased muscle cars.

 

But neither muscle car nor pony car was an official designation, so it's all open to interpretation.

Edited February 21, 2015 by TCMike

[coldknife]

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34 (-2)
4. Dukes 37 (+1)
5. Gauntlet 20
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 47
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 21
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 41
12. Sabre Turbo 47
13. Slamvan 39
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 13

[HKM87]

I can't vote in this thread, because I like them all

[Chloroform]

 

I don't think body shape played any big role in it. The Mustang set the stage and everyone else followed suit, copying Ford's formula. As far as affordability goes, some Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers with the biggest engine options and all the bells and whistles were not very cheap. They were often more expensive than their muscle car big brothers.

 

 

 

But without larger, heavier, and more powerful cars to compare themselves with, the term 'pony car' quickly lost most of it's meaning imo. Especially when they themselves grew in size, weight, and power to fill the gaps left by the recently deceased muscle cars.

 

But neither muscle car nor pony car was an official designation, so it's all open to interpretation.

 

Body shape plays a huge role in what a pony car was. Yes the original Mustang was the first pony car and everyone followed these standards. And affordability played the biggest role is why they were considered pony cars. Just because some of these cars had options and became more expensive doesn't mean they weren't pony cars. Take the Corvette as an example, it wasn't a muscle car because it was expensive, it was a sports car. Like I said this can be debated all day but what I posted is all facts on what a pony car is/was.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Chloroform

[TCMike]

Body shape plays a huge role in what a pony car was. Yes the original Mustang was the first pony car and everyone followed these standards. And affordability played the biggest role is why they were considered pony cars. Just because some of these cars had options and became more expensive doesn't mean they weren't pony cars. Take the Corvette as an example, it wasn't a muscle car because it was expensive, it was a sports car. Like I said this can be debated all day but what I posted is all facts on what a pony car is/was.

 

Here is the thing, the term Pony Car was coined by an automotive journalist, because it sounded catchy on paper. It was used to describe the Mustang, so anything similar to a Mustang was also called a pony car. But it was not an official designation. There are no rules, no facts, just opinions.

[Infamous Deathlok]

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 34

4. Dukes 38 (+1)

5. Gauntlet 18 (-2)

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 47

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 21

10. Rat Truck 37

11. Ruiner 41

12. Sabre Turbo 47

13. Slamvan 39

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 13

[Chloroform]

Dukes +1

Dominator -2

 

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 32
4. Dukes 39
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 47
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 21
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 41
12. Sabre Turbo 47
13. Slamvan 39
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 13

Here is the thing, the term Pony Car was coined by an automotive journalist, because it sounded catchy on paper. It was used to describe the Mustang, so anything similar to a Mustang was also called a pony car. But it was not an official designation. There are no rules, no facts, just opinions.

 

Here is a fun fact for ya, Dependability wasn't a word till a PR guy at Dodge made it up and put it in an ad

Edited February 21, 2015 by Chloroform

[Strange Town]

Phoenix +1

Ruiner -2

 

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 32
4. Dukes 39
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 48
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 21
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 47
13. Slamvan 39
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 13

[_Tacts]

 

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 33 (+1)

4. Dukes 39

5. Gauntlet 18

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 47 (-1)

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 20 (-1)

10. Rat Truck 37

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 47

13. Slamvan 39

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 13

[beretta-gt88]

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34 +1
4. Dukes 39
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 47
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 20
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 47
13. Slamvan 39
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 11-2

Edited February 21, 2015 by beretta-gt88

[stainesey]

Phoenix + 1

Slamvan - 2

 

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 33

4. Dukes 39

5. Gauntlet 18

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 49

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 21

10. Rat Truck 37

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 47

13. Slamvan 37

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 11

[timmyturner]

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 33
4. Dukes 39
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 49
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 21
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

 

Voodoo -2

Sabre Turbo +1

[Chloroform]

Correct scores? stainesey added +2 for the Phoenix

 

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34
4. Dukes 39
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 48
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 20
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

Edited February 21, 2015 by Chloroform

[Ubermacht]

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34
4. Dukes 40 (+1)
5. Gauntlet 18
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 46 (-2)
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 20
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

[stainesey]

Correct scores? stainesey added +2 for the Phoenix

 

So I did. Apologies and thanks for sorting it out.

[Halal Cyborg]

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 34

4. Dukes 40

5. Gauntlet 16 -2

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 47 (+1)

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 20

10. Rat Truck 37

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 37

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 9

Edited February 21, 2015 by Halal Cyborg

[Infamous Deathlok]

 

Correct scores? stainesey added +2 for the Phoenix

 

So I did. Apologies and thanks for sorting it out.

 

 

Just kidding. People take these games way too seriously sometimes. No harm done.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Infamous Deathlok

[Scottisha]

+1 Dukes

-2 Rat loader

 

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34
4. Dukes 41
5. Gauntlet 16
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 47
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 18
10. Rat Truck 37
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

Edited February 21, 2015 by Scottisha

[RedlineDrifts]

Dukes +1

Rat Loader -1

Rat Truck -1

 

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 34
4. Dukes 42
5. Gauntlet 16
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 47
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 17
10. Rat Truck 36
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

[MrFister]

1. Blade 31
2. Buccaneer 38
3. Dominator 32 -2
4. Dukes 42
5. Gauntlet 16
6. Hotknife 40
7. Phoenix 48 +1
8. Picador 34
9. Rat Loader 17
10. Rat Truck 36
11. Ruiner 39
12. Sabre Turbo 48
13. Slamvan 37
14. Stallion 34
15. Vigero 42
16. Voodoo 9

[smitty1923]

Slaman +1. Voodoo -2

[jatiger13]

 

 

Body shape plays a huge role in what a pony car was. Yes the original Mustang was the first pony car and everyone followed these standards. And affordability played the biggest role is why they were considered pony cars. Just because some of these cars had options and became more expensive doesn't mean they weren't pony cars. Take the Corvette as an example, it wasn't a muscle car because it was expensive, it was a sports car. Like I said this can be debated all day but what I posted is all facts on what a pony car is/was.

Here is the thing, the term Pony Car was coined by an automotive journalist, because it sounded catchy on paper. It was used to describe the Mustang, so anything similar to a Mustang was also called a pony car. But it was not an official designation. There are no rules, no facts, just opinions.

I was looking at Ford's own website, they call the Mustang a Pony car. So there's that.

 

However, the Dominator is a muscle car. It just has the styling of a Mustang or Shelby.

Edited February 21, 2015 by jatiger13

[Cudwieser]

Slaman +1. Voodoo -2

In other words

 

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 32

4. Dukes 42

5. Gauntlet 16

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 48

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 17

10. Rat Truck 36

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 38 (+1)

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 7 (-2)

[jatiger13]

Nvm Ninja'd

Edited February 21, 2015 by jatiger13

[BMWSauberF1.08]

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 32

4. Dukes 42+1=43

5. Gauntlet 16

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 48

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 17

10. Rat Truck 36

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 38

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 7-2=5

[Giantsgiants]

Rat Loader +1

Gauntlet -2

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 32

4. Dukes 43

5. Gauntlet 14

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 48

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 18

10. Rat Truck 36

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 38

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 42

16. Voodoo 5

[Mach1bud]

 

 

Body shape plays a huge role in what a pony car was. Yes the original Mustang was the first pony car and everyone followed these standards. And affordability played the biggest role is why they were considered pony cars. Just because some of these cars had options and became more expensive doesn't mean they weren't pony cars. Take the Corvette as an example, it wasn't a muscle car because it was expensive, it was a sports car. Like I said this can be debated all day but what I posted is all facts on what a pony car is/was.

Here is the thing, the term Pony Car was coined by an automotive journalist, because it sounded catchy on paper. It was used to describe the Mustang, so anything similar to a Mustang was also called a pony car. But it was not an official designation. There are no rules, no facts, just opinions.

A pony is a type of horse, and is the only reason it was coined for thr Mustang. Just to add.

 

If body shape plays a huge role in what makes a muscle car, then what about my Mach 1? It's much larger than any other Mustang, as big or bigger than any Chevelle or Nova or Charger. It was also very expensive, even with base options, compared to other cars of the era. Is it still lumped in with Pony Cars even though it shares no qualities with the definition? Just because they happened to call it a horse?

 

They all had long hoods/short decks.

 

I'm not arguing, just thought I'd make ya think.

 

Edit: I know we have had this disscussion before lol. We have different views and thats cool.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Mach1bud

[Jimrod]

Muscle Cars were just small/medium models with the engines from the large models shoved in for performance- hence "muscle". A few visual enhancements and the recipe for the American version of a European "sports car" was born.

 

I love early Mustangs, I dislike the Dominator because it resembles the later, fatter, heavier Mach 1 rather than the purer original. It's not nice to "Drive". I also voted for and love the Stanier in the Sedan shootout, not because I'm a hipster but because it's one of the best cars in the game to drive.

[JohnnyCallisto]

+1 Vigero

-2 Dukes

 

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 32

4. Dukes 41 (-2)

5. Gauntlet 14

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 48

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 18

10. Rat Truck 36

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 38

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 43 (+1)

16. Voodoo 5

Edited February 21, 2015 by JohnnyCallisto

[Lee1255]

Dukes +1

Voodoo -2

1. Blade 31

2. Buccaneer 38

3. Dominator 32

4. Dukes 42

5. Gauntlet 14

6. Hotknife 40

7. Phoenix 48

8. Picador 34

9. Rat Loader 18

10. Rat Truck 36

11. Ruiner 39

12. Sabre Turbo 48

13. Slamvan 38

14. Stallion 34

15. Vigero 43

16. Voodoo 3