Pampawnloud1989 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I can't believe what Rockstar Games has done... So they divided the GTA games from PS2 and GTA games with the new gen in different 'Universes'... I honestly bought GTA V to follow more on the San Andreas story line, what happened to CJ? You know? or Tommy Vercetti or Claude. Honestly CJ played a big character in all of those games. Anyone else have anything to say about this topic? Because Following story lines are important and honestly Rockstar should not erase these legends from history and call it a book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazeone1 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 CJ rode off on a bike in gta V if you knew where to look... thats the last we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 3D era was all about having fun through the story and gameplay and not worry about increased realism nor any clashes of players interests with characters even though most features/mechanics seemed to be quite inferior by todays standards. But that is exactly what they're supposed to CHANGE while retaining the "feel" of the good old fun and vastly improve them. Sadly, with changing times, these stories and the gameplay ideas are more or less poorly regarded now by many new players and see them more as nostalgia than anything. To me with each HD title, I don't quite know whether the GTA is an action title or a messed up real life simulator that's unsure about how to achieve a good balance between both realism and fun. Add ONLINE to that and you've the story which is ridiculously short and f*cked up by heavily scripted missions blatantly abusing players feeedom and authoritative control over them scripted for a movie-like experiences in a "video game". Moreover, a huge amount of filler content as side jobs, and boring mini-games that appeals to the many modern gamers. That's the main problem here. As much as I really would f*ckin' love to see CJ and Tommy return, I really doubt whether they'd benefit from these modern improvements in making the storyline effective, and whether overall it'd really feel like they catered to the fans by giving them a second chance so that they will remain with us forever ??? I don't really think so. I could deal with the changes to the voice actors but not watching them being butchered by the crap modern game design and choices leaving us a disappointment. Mister Pink, SmokesWithCigs, Kalerney and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMeSrsly Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 3D hands down! LOL Its no contest! Some people say 3D era is outdated at almost everything, but size of content! But that is exactly why i pick San Andreas (or even Vice City!) over IV and V! They have vehicle-based missions, flamethrower, katana, chainsaw and so on...Yeah sure, graphics is not so impressive to say the least and animations are stiff as hell, but everything else (almost any single other point aside from visual!) makes 3D era San Andreas top HD era one!...And don't even get me started onto huge landscape variety, that 3D era SA had and, which puts HD one to shame!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't know about anyone else, but I like imagining what happen to Tommy or CJ without a direct explanation. IMO it's more fun thinking of different scenarios of what became of their fates and adds to the mystique of the many mysteries throughout the series. Apart from the potential of San Andreas Stories I don't feel there was much else to the 3D era they could've done without it becoming stagnant and eventually boring. So they came up with the HD era to give players new characters and stories. Some like it, some don't. It's just the way it is. Even though I think the HD era has lost its way somewhat regarding stories and characters with GTA V and TBOGT to an extent I still commend R* for trying to keep things fresh. As much as I love Tommy (CJ not so much) I don't see the point in bringing them back. As I said I prefer to come up with my own ideas of what became of them. Zello and Sawnek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I don't want to see them return they have had their stories and what can be done with them now? They would all be living pretty boring lives except for maybe Claude (He's in some deep sh*t xD). I always like moving on to new characters and stories because it would eventually get boring with the same people all the time like most games do. With the separate universes thing I think it's similar to comic books where they have a lot of universes. Same superheroes but they have some differences some events happen in one universe and don't in another. The batman you have today is not the same batman from the 60s. Separate universes are only a good thing and I like what R* has done with them I do think that R* could tie the HD era better though. What they did with the III era was great those games were all connected and tied together I liked the reunion in SA (Claude, Salvatore, Rosenberg) and how the prequels lead up to and influence the events of III. Edited February 17, 2015 by Zello SmokesWithCigs, GTA_dog and Algonquin Assassin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pampawnloud1989 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Well people are different in there own way, some want the same old stuff they've seen for years (Like a TV show) or they want new stories. But maybe making an appearance one more time would be great in my opinion, but dont get me wrong. I've learned from people from telling me 'Why would we recreate something that was once great at its time? It's better to make those times live in the past' -Alfonso Ribero. i know... Carlton quote, but it made sense. But still... Maybe one last appearence wouldent be so hard to ask for. CJ definetly because the game is in Los Santos... So is CJ... I just still dont understand why they took the 3D Era and made it somewhat like a fictional book that never happened? What ever happened to grove street? What happened to sweet, ceasar, or even OG Loc? Denise might have a connection in both games... but still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTechPoTaToCHIP Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 CJ didn't play a huge role in all the 3D era games, just in San Andreas. Anyway, by now, people should get used to it. Rockstar has never made a direct sequel to a GTA game because they wanted every GTA story to be self contained so that any gamer could jump into the series at any point. I don't see them changing that policy. We will never play as past GTA protagonists and we will never see the 3D era characters in HD. Rockstar has stuck to this so strongly to the point where it's like the laws of physics, you can complain about it but you can't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A. Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I can't believe what Rockstar Games has done... So they divided the GTA games from PS2 and GTA games with the new gen in different 'Universes'... I honestly bought GTA V to follow more on the San Andreas story line, what happened to CJ? You know? or Tommy Vercetti or Claude. Honestly CJ played a big character in all of those games. Anyone else have anything to say about this topic? Because Following story lines are important and honestly Rockstar should not erase these legends from history and call it a book... So here's why you are wrong: 1. The 3D universe is not "erased" it is just not canon in the HD universe,which means all the GTA games in th 3D universe are still canon together in one universe. 2. The reason the 3D universe doesn't continue is because the cities they play in changed drastically,therefor they made a new HD universe with a new storyline. 3. Hardly anyone plays GTA for the story,Rockstar knows this,so they will NEVER make a GTA game based on story since that would suck and is against everything they ever did with GTA games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 3. Hardly anyone plays GTA for the story,Rockstar knows this,so they will NEVER make a GTA game based on story since that would suck and is against everything they ever did with GTA games.You 're kidding , right? American Viking, ClaudX, WhiteLines and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Honestly CJ played a big character in all of those games. Yeah, because CJ's role in Tommy's plan to betray Sonny was masterfully written and produced. Or his short appearance before Salvatore's death, telling Claude to f*ck off. 3. Hardly anyone plays GTA for the story,Rockstar knows this,so they will NEVER make a GTA game based on story since that would suck and is against everything they ever did with GTA games. Speak for yourself, please. ClaudX, PreciousWall, The Dedito Gae and 1 other 4 Did you see the frightened ones? Did you hear the falling bombs? Did you ever wonder... ...why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeH1989 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think CJ would of been greenlighted by the Leone mafia family after that casino hiest, Tony Cipriani probably killed him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pampawnloud1989 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 So many questions unanswered... Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_dog Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) As the next universe will eliminate this HD universe, but what will come next? I just loved the whole 3D era connecting together, compared to what we have now. I remember through playing GTA III and then Vice City not understanding the connection, and then SA came out and it blew my mind with how characters make a return. I realized that Phil Cassidy was in III during my second play through on Vice City after playing the trilogy again. We don't have over the top stories clashing in the HD era, just minor references to other characters from IV/EFLC. Edited February 19, 2015 by GTA_dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Viking Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Listen, the 3D era was great fun and all, and I had many a wonderful nights recruiting Grove street gangsters and mixing Balla purple with red, and I had many wonderful days in VC with Tommy, but the past is just that. GTA IV is what really sold the series to me. It was such a work of art and I was/am so impressed that the thoughts of CJ, Claude, and Tommy became little more than footnotes to me. Do I miss the characters and the 3D era games? Sure, all of us who watched GTA grow up miss them but the future has proven to be bigger and brighter as it should. Even GTA V. That said, and to respond to what you're saying, I think it's great that they've split the universes. It allows Rockstar to reimagine similar stories, characters, and missions in the HD universe without it feeling redundant. I really love how Rockstar is able to maintain realism but simultaneously keep the games entertaining and enjoyable. Some games, like the Sims, good Lord that's like watching paint dry. With GTA though, I find it easier to suspend disbelief in the HD era than I could in the 3D era, and when we are talking about interactive entertainment and immersion, that's all that matters. Algonquin Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudX Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If Rockstar brought the characters back, they would probably all end up like Johnny. Niko Montana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Montana Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Here's what I think happened to all of the 3D Universe protagonists Claude: After all the gangs are after him, he probably left Liberty City Tommy: He continued running his empire in Vice City CJ: He left the gang life and continued running his assets (Wang Car, Casino etc.) Toni: He took over the Leone Family after Salvatore's death Vic: Everyone knows what happened to Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Rockstar didn't want to continue with the III era storylines. That's what gave the idea of HD Universes. I guess they didn't want to have anything to do with CJ. Killing him in Johnny's place would have sparked negetive feedback for them. Yossarianite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldkilla1467 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 i think its better off not know or see any previous protganist cause if we leave them alone they might die and not wake up in an hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9i OTD Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 HD universe. The 3D universe was fun and all, but too cartoony for my liking (before you say it, GTA 5 isn't cartoony. It's a sitcom..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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