What's everyones problem with Cash Cards?

[ugotsmoked]

People will never ever be happy no matter what. It is something else to whine about. It does not unbalance the game at all. Its not hard to earn money. This community just loves to whine about the dumbest things.

Exactly. I cannot wait until people are getting paid 1 mil per heist and the hate threads start about how they feel they should have gotten paid 2 mil per heist and that cockstar are doing this to drive kersh kurd sales.

[Relative007]

Exactly. I cannot wait until people are getting paid 1 mil per heist and the hate threads start about how they feel they should have gotten paid 2 mil per heist and that cockstar are doing this to drive kersh kurd sales.

 

If Heists payout 1 million $GTA each I will be laughing all the way to the bank I just robbed.

 

As for driving Shark Card sales, well of course they have done things to drive sales; it is called Business.

 

Edit: See Below. The content was free initially as there was already lots of (valid) animosity towards R* due to their poor handling of GTA Online and all the Bugs/Glitches around Launch. Making people pay for the Beach Bum Content after losing all their vehicles or even characters was never going to work in R*s favor.

Edited February 15, 2015 by Relative007

[Chloroform]

 

 

It is free, we didn't go on the PSstore/XBL Marketplace and bought the DLC.

Also DLC stands for Downloadable Content.

 

Every update We've gotten has content thats downloadable.

What content that was downloadable, was also free? I mean really free, meaning absolutely no RL or in-game money being needed to aquire it online? Please tell me, because the Glendale costs money. The Turismo costs money. The Zentorno costs money. The Besra costs money. I could go on and on, but you get my point.

 

Free means not having to do anything to aquire it aside from downloading it. This is not the case with 99.9% of all content that we download from the updates.

 

Everything in the Beach bum pack was free.

 

The first taste is always free. BTW the Bifta isn't free no more, just like the van and the boat from that update.

[ugotsmoked]

 

Exactly. I cannot wait until people are getting paid 1 mil per heist and the hate threads start about how they feel they should have gotten paid 2 mil per heist and that cockstar are doing this to drive kersh kurd sales.

 

If Heists payout 1 million $GTA each I will be laughing all the way to the bank I just robbed.

 

As for driving Shark Card sales, well of course they have done things to drive sales; it is called Business.

 

 

Correct. If the community realized that the most effective way to boycott is to stop buying a company's product. Going on the internet to state your hatred for said product is only for trolling and/or internet validation. Neither of which appeal to me. This game grows more amazing to me on a daily basis. My excitement to play goes up as time goes on, not down.

 

I will buy more cash cards. And glitch. And farm. MILLIONS.

 

I love GTAO.

[Chloroform]

 

 

Exactly. I cannot wait until people are getting paid 1 mil per heist and the hate threads start about how they feel they should have gotten paid 2 mil per heist and that cockstar are doing this to drive kersh kurd sales.

 

If Heists payout 1 million $GTA each I will be laughing all the way to the bank I just robbed.

 

As for driving Shark Card sales, well of course they have done things to drive sales; it is called Business.

 

 

Correct. If the community realized that the most effective way to boycott is to stop buying a company's product. Going on the internet to state your hatred for said product is only for trolling and/or internet validation. Neither of which appeal to me. This game grows more amazing to me on a daily basis. My excitement to play goes up as time goes on, not down.

 

I will buy more cash cards. And glitch. And farm. MILLIONS.

 

I love GTAO.

 

It had to appeal to you if you decided to open this thread and post more then once

[ugotsmoked]

 

 

 

Exactly. I cannot wait until people are getting paid 1 mil per heist and the hate threads start about how they feel they should have gotten paid 2 mil per heist and that cockstar are doing this to drive kersh kurd sales.

 

If Heists payout 1 million $GTA each I will be laughing all the way to the bank I just robbed.

 

As for driving Shark Card sales, well of course they have done things to drive sales; it is called Business.

 

 

Correct. If the community realized that the most effective way to boycott is to stop buying a company's product. Going on the internet to state your hatred for said product is only for trolling and/or internet validation. Neither of which appeal to me. This game grows more amazing to me on a daily basis. My excitement to play goes up as time goes on, not down.

 

I will buy more cash cards. And glitch. And farm. MILLIONS.

 

I love GTAO.

 

It had to appeal to you if you decided to open this thread and post more then once

 

It does appeal to me. I bought 3 shark cards, I will buy more.

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

 

 

It is free, we didn't go on the PSstore/XBL Marketplace and bought the DLC.

Also DLC stands for Downloadable Content.

 

Every update We've gotten has content thats downloadable.

What content that was downloadable, was also free? I mean really free, meaning absolutely no RL or in-game money being needed to aquire it online? Please tell me, because the Glendale costs money. The Turismo costs money. The Zentorno costs money. The Besra costs money. I could go on and on, but you get my point.

 

Free means not having to do anything to aquire it aside from downloading it. This is not the case with 99.9% of all content that we download from the updates.

 

Yes those items do cost money, but in game money not RL money. In essence it's free.So how exactly do you get in-game money? By either investing time, or buying a shark card. I don't know about you, but my time is worth more than free, so even if it doesn't monetarily cost me anything for the content, the fact that I have to invest time into doing something I don't find fun (grinding missions suck, due in part by the fact they add more cars to sell than they do actual content like missions, so sh*t gets stale) means that it isn't "free" for me.

 

Sorry if your time is worthless, or you find the same old missions to be still enjoyable (and therefore don't find grinding to be a chore), but I value my time the same I do my money; so to say that the content is free, because I didn't pay real money, would be inaccurate. I paid with my time.

Edited February 15, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[Chloroform]

It does appeal to me. I bought 3 shark cards, I will buy more.

 

 

 

Well thank you, it's the people like you that are killing this gaming industry. This will be a standard because of people like you that are willing to dish out real cash for fake cash. IT might not be a big deal for GTA 5 but just wait for future released games. You're too blind to see this

[Ottomatic46]

GTA V is not a pay to win game cash is easily earned. The day it becomes where you have to buy for example "rockstar coinz" to buy certain weapons and gear is the day I leave. But they are not every item can be earned through playing the game easily. Stop whining get over it. You don't need them to enjoy the game. People act like Rockstar is becoming EA or some sh*t. If you don't like them you don't have to buy them. Also from as far as I can tell those profits go to funding V and whatever plans for the future.

[Chloroform]

GTA V is not a pay to win game cash is easily earned. The day it becomes where you have to buy for example "rockstar coinz" to buy certain weapons and gear is the day I leave. But they are not every item can be earned through playing the game easily. Stop whining get over it. You don't need them to enjoy the game. People act like Rockstar is becoming EA or some sh*t. If you don't like them you don't have to buy them. Also from as far as I can tell those profits go to funding V and whatever plans for the future.

No not right now but they will see people have no problems buying them. So future games Rockstar will turn into EA and companies like that. All because people right now are saying "get over it" and stuff like that.

[Ottomatic46]

So you have a magic crystal ball that must be nice.

[Chloroform]

So you have a magic crystal ball that must be nice.

No, I just think logically

[Anox]

I'm certain the same people complaining about the F2P business model, are the same people who complained about the subscription business model when it first started, and will complain about any new business models released in games.

 

I've bought a few cash cards. No where near the amount that I imagine it would cost to buy all the packs and the heist pack once released if we did not have cash cards. Those of you out there complaining about cash cards, would still complain if they were removed, and we had to pay for the DLC.

 

The old, "I bought this game already, i paid my $60". That line is getting a bit old. Back in the day, when you got a game, and it got no updates, no DLC, no support once released. I understand that.

 

Now when games with mutliplayer are given support for years after their release, and you still say, "I paid my $60, give me everything". If the people at Rockstar said, "Well I did my work on the original game. If the servers don't work, not my problem. They paid their $60. They got their game. Their issue." you'd be bitching then still.

 

Games should come fully working, I agree, in Grand Theft Auto 5's case, the singleplayer did. The multiplayer did not, but you paid your $60, who cares?

 

I paid upwards of $100 where I live (New Zealand) twice, for GTA on old and new gen. If you think of all the work they put into Grand Theft Auto 5, and still charge $60 in the US. When other games, which are a lot worse quality, charge the same or more for their game, and you're ungrateful. That kind of annoys me.

[TCA]

 

 

 

It is free, we didn't go on the PSstore/XBL Marketplace and bought the DLC.

Also DLC stands for Downloadable Content.

 

Every update We've gotten has content thats downloadable.

What content that was downloadable, was also free? I mean really free, meaning absolutely no RL or in-game money being needed to aquire it online? Please tell me, because the Glendale costs money. The Turismo costs money. The Zentorno costs money. The Besra costs money. I could go on and on, but you get my point.

 

Free means not having to do anything to aquire it aside from downloading it. This is not the case with 99.9% of all content that we download from the updates.

 

Yes those items do cost money, but in game money not RL money. In essence it's free.

So how exactly do you get in-game money? By either investing time, or buying a shark card. I don't know about you, but my time is worth more than free, so even if it doesn't monetarily cost me anything for the content, the fact that I have to invest time into doing something I don't find fun (grinding missions suck, due in part by the fact they add more cars to sell than they do actual content like missions, so sh*t gets stale) means that it isn't "free" for me.

 

Sorry if your time is worthless, or you find the same old missions to be still enjoyable (and therefore don't find grinding to be a chore), but I value my time the same I do my money; so to say that the content is free, because I didn't pay real money, would be inaccurate. I paid with my time.

 

What things do you enjoy doing in GTA?

[SeberHusky]

The only answer and the simple answer is....little kids that are mad that they have to sit on the game all day long and grind missions slowly when they have school and homework to do. They cannot buy these cards because mommy and daddy wont give them any money to buy one so they can get what all their friends have. So they brood jelous hate and believe all this bullsh*t that cash cards are bad, they hurt the game, etc etc.

 

It's also because too many people are absolute morons and will buy anything they see that adds to or sometimes repairs a game. DLC used to be a novelty and something that devs actually WORKED on to add bonuses to their games for the people who wished to take things further, and it used to be worth it.

Now it's a requirement because too many people have been doing it for too long, and frequently paying too much for too little. Online passes, on-disc locked content, vanity items that serve no purpose, and so on and so forth.

Edited February 15, 2015 by SeberHusky

[NBAKingzFan10]

Freeroam, racing, and making car replicas. I used to like missions before I played each one an average of 100 times each. At least races are unpredictable because of the human element, even if racing the same track over and over again. Missions never change, and since the AI are the opponent and not another player, it gets boring real fast. There's only so many ways you can do a mission, and only so many times you ca do it, before it all becomes blatantly repetitive and unimaginative.

Edited February 15, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[RazzleLeone]

Never going to invest into Scam Cards (see what I did there?)

 

I got everything I have in GTAO and real-life by doing the intended... WORKING MY ASS OFF

 

As for Heists pay-outs... I doubt there will be 1 Million payouts... maybe a few hundred thousand if anything (which is still fair)

 

It's like this the way I see it... 4 person Survival completed ($30,000), do the same by yourself ($30,000) see what I'm getting at?

 

Plus, along the way people will exploit and hack the Heists anyways so the pay-outs will be half-assed, it affects the sales of Loan Shark cards if everyone has In-Game cash without having to invest real $$

[Chloroform]

I'm certain the same people complaining about the F2P business model, are the same people who complained about the subscription business model when it first started, and will complain about any new business models released in games.

 

I've bought a few cash cards. No where near the amount that I imagine it would cost to buy all the packs and the heist pack once released if we did not have cash cards. Those of you out there complaining about cash cards, would still complain if they were removed, and we had to pay for the DLC.

 

The old, "I bought this game already, i paid my $60". That line is getting a bit old. Back in the day, when you got a game, and it got no updates, no DLC, no support once released. I understand that.

 

Now when games with mutliplayer are given support for years after their release, and you still say, "I paid my $60, give me everything". If the people at Rockstar said, "Well I did my work on the original game. If the servers don't work, not my problem. They paid their $60. They got their game. Their issue." you'd be bitching then still.

 

Games should come fully working, I agree, in Grand Theft Auto 5's case, the singleplayer did. The multiplayer did not, but you paid your $60, who cares?

 

I paid upwards of $100 where I live (New Zealand) twice, for GTA on old and new gen. If you think of all the work they put into Grand Theft Auto 5, and still charge $60 in the US. When other games, which are a lot worse quality, charge the same or more for their game, and you're ungrateful. That kind of annoys me.

 

I have no problem paying for good dlc, so your theory on that is out the window. I bought the game twice ( special edition $80 Xbox 360 and $60 for Xbox One ) I don't think I'm entitled to anything other then what rockstar promised us. They have to fix the issues with MP no matter what. You can't offer a service and not fix it.

[Quarthon]

Cost of Shark Card - $60 for 3.5 million @ 3 hours of work to make $60

 

Time it takes me to earn 3.5 million @ 15 in game hours a week - approx a month

 

Not all of us get to play every day and earn a lot of GTA$.

 

If you want them, buy them. If not stop your dam crying about the video game industry going to sh*t. Its the way the world works. You arent going to change the world by not buying GTAO Shark Cards.

[Chloroform]

Cost of Shark Card - $60 for 3.5 million @ 3 hours of work to make $60

 

Time it takes me to earn 3.5 million @ 15 in game hours a week - approx a month

 

Not all of us get to play every day and earn a lot of GTA$.

 

If you want them, buy them. If not stop your dam crying about the video game industry going to sh*t. Its the way the world works. You arent going to change the world by not buying GTAO Shark Cards.

So lets all jump on this ship together and watch it sink? Makes sense.

[Quarthon]

 

Cost of Shark Card - $60 for 3.5 million @ 3 hours of work to make $60

 

Time it takes me to earn 3.5 million @ 15 in game hours a week - approx a month

 

Not all of us get to play every day and earn a lot of GTA$.

 

If you want them, buy them. If not stop your dam crying about the video game industry going to sh*t. Its the way the world works. You arent going to change the world by not buying GTAO Shark Cards.

So lets all jump on this ship together and watch it sink? Makes sense.

 

So what are you saying, the people who dont have the time to play and get good things in GTA should just stfu and not get to experience the game? Thats bullsh*t dude, some people dont have time for that and have the money. I've never bought one myself and likely never will, but everyone should be able to experience the game to its fullest. In a game like GTA extra money dosent give anyone much of an advantage, so theres no harm. If you want to talk about other games that there would be an advantage, then sure you have a point. I think people are barking up the wrong tree.

[Chloroform]

 

So what are you saying, the people who dont have the time to play and get good things in GTA should just stfu and not get to experience the game? Thats bullsh*t dude, some people dont have time for that and have the money. I've never bought one myself and likely never will, but everyone should be able to experience the game to its fullest. In a game like GTA extra money dosent give anyone much of an advantage, so theres no harm. If you want to talk about other games that there would be an advantage, then sure you have a point. I think people are barking up the wrong tree.

 

No but it allows rockstar to inflate the prices from sp to mp. rockstar knew car modifications would be huge online. Why make these prices so much more online over single player? Why do I have to pay a hell out a lot more? Why can't I store any vehicle I find in online that is over 100k? Also why do a money wipe after the billion dollar days? I first I was on board with cash cars and how they help and blah blah blah but tell me one update "dlc" that was worth people buying cash cards for? Not one damn update was worth people buying them.

Edited February 15, 2015 by Chloroform

[MarkNuttGod]

No legit reason to hate cash cards

If your force to buy GTA money then piss off rockstar

[luisniko]

Simple solution?

 

Let them who have extra money to burn to buy it.

 

There are other game I've been a fan for years only to see the company resort to DLC this, DLC that. Still, there are fanboys who defend them. All I have to do is to support the company by knowing the value of my money before making a purchase.

 

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Seriously. It's weird when you people think "If those updates become paid DLC, it'll seperate the fanbase". Yeah, that would happen if R* are dumb or trying to get people to buy the pack. Otherwise, there will be a compability pack for you to match each other's game version, while the DLC buyers have access to the contents and the others not.

 

But think logically. How much money would Rockstar potentially get from paid DLC than Cash Cards? Again, paid DLC is one-of-a-lifetime purchase. While Cash Cards is unlimited purchase. Cash Cards is selling limited consumable item a.k.a 'MONEY'. When the money is consumed, you can buy another one.

 

Think and see why Rockstar choose 'Cash Cards' at first. Again, like I said, don't keep eating their typical PR's "because of you, we can" bullsh*t. Unless you are afraid to see the sour truth, of course.

[Ottomatic46]

 

So you have a magic crystal ball that must be nice.

No, I just think logically

 

Making a claim before it happens is not logical, The day it happens I am with you but you are jumping the gun. I will eat my words and you can hold me to it if it happens. I doubt it will. In my opinion if you can get free porn you are not allowed to complain. Logically I own a gun so I should have killed someone by now. I have yet to kill anyone so keep spewing your bullsh*t. All you do is prove all of my points.

Edited February 15, 2015 by Ottomatic46

[Godovermoney]

When the game first came out, missions payed out a lot more money than they do now. This is a fact. When they started selling shark cards, they began nerfing mission payouts. It shows Rockstar's greed. They have already made a killing off of the games by selling them on both consoles, and will continue to when GTA for PC comes out. We're just talking about GTA, not all of the other games Rockstar had made, and will continue to make a killing on. They're extracting money from this game at a rapid pace, and giving us a small percentage of what they're giving GTA content wise. My theory anyhow.

[Ottomatic46]

I give up everybody is entitled nowadays just like jimmys neck flaps

Edited February 15, 2015 by Ottomatic46

[RossCA]

 

 

 

It is free, we didn't go on the PSstore/XBL Marketplace and bought the DLC.

Also DLC stands for Downloadable Content.

 

Every update We've gotten has content thats downloadable.

What content that was downloadable, was also free? I mean really free, meaning absolutely no RL or in-game money being needed to aquire it online? Please tell me, because the Glendale costs money. The Turismo costs money. The Zentorno costs money. The Besra costs money. I could go on and on, but you get my point.

 

Free means not having to do anything to aquire it aside from downloading it. This is not the case with 99.9% of all content that we download from the updates.

 

Yes those items do cost money, but in game money not RL money. In essence it's free.

So how exactly do you get in-game money? By either investing time, or buying a shark card. I don't know about you, but my time is worth more than free, so even if it doesn't monetarily cost me anything for the content, the fact that I have to invest time into doing something I don't find fun (grinding missions suck, due in part by the fact they add more cars to sell than they do actual content like missions, so sh*t gets stale) means that it isn't "free" for me.

 

Sorry if your time is worthless, or you find the same old missions to be still enjoyable (and therefore don't find grinding to be a chore), but I value my time the same I do my money; so to say that the content is free, because I didn't pay real money, would be inaccurate. I paid with my time.

 

If your time was that valuable, you wouldn't waste it on video games and in this forum.

[Quarthon]

When the game first came out, missions payed out a lot more money than they do now. This is a fact. When they started selling shark cards, they began nerfing mission payouts. It shows Rockstar's greed. They have already made a killing off of the games by selling them on both consoles, and will continue to when GTA for PC comes out. We're just talking about GTA, not all of the other games Rockstar had made, and will continue to make a killing on. They're extracting money from this game at a rapid pace, and giving us a small percentage of what they're giving GTA content wise. My theory anyhow.

Yea really sucks that a business is trying to make money while giving out free DLC. Its going to suck even more when they use some of that money to make GTA6 and we all go buy it.

[fish61324]

This comment is just going to get lost in this thread, but anyway....

 

Here is a short answer:

 

The problem is not having settings in the game. For example (and this is just one example of HUNDREDS, this is just the easiest for people to understand), how come in GTA IV we were able to turn cops off in free roam but in GTA V we aren't??? Because of Shark Cards. R* knows that the more killing, damage, explosions, etc etc etc there is in free roam, the more in-game money people will spend. With millions of people playing this game, R* knows that will lead to making a lot of real life money (from shark card sales). So basically in just that ONE TINY LITTLE example, it ruins the integrity of the game.

 

Look at it like this..... whenever you play GTA V and can't do something or asked the question "Why" (because of something in the game), the answer is (99.9% of the time) BECAUSE OF SHARK CARDS.

 

Everything R* does with GTA V online is surrounded around ENTICING people to buy more and more shark cards.

 

GTA V was built on PS3/360, there are NO EXCUSES for "limitations" on the next gen consoles..... yet R* (and their stupid fans) will always give the excuse... "Because if console limitations".

 

Bottom line is that Shark Cars ruin the integrity of the game and the shark cards are the only thing keeping R* from really making GTA V a huge robust amazing game.

 

People need to use their brain.... whether you buy shark cards or not they affect you, they affect everyone.

 

There ya go kid, you have your answer. I am sick of explaining this to simple folk.