so modders are ruining races now...

[Non Fiction]

1st time it happened I beat a modder in the 1st race as he was trying to drive dirty the whole time. So i I sent him a Lmao dirty bitc# message after the race. So we replay the race again and at the start of the race the modder makes everyones timer start at 17500.00 mins. I still finish the race 1st and get the $7000 but when the winners screen came up it was the modders avatar and it showed me in 4th place...but I still got the prize money so I thought maybe it was a bug

 

 

2nd time its a room filled with 15 ppl, I'm 2nd highest lvl in the room (355) so I didn't want to profile the lvl 637 as a modder like so many people have done to me. Anyways the race starts and everything is fine, I mean EVERYONE is actually trying to race instead of play bumper cars, until the we get close to the finish line and 4 of us are fighting for 1st until some UFO or upside down cookie jar covers everyone's car except the lvl 637. Everyone on the Mic screams there's a modder in the room and leaves...this is starting to get bad, update 1.21 needs to come fast

[saintsrow]

Racers have been ruining races since the earliest days of GTA0, so why should modders not get their chance to ruin races?

[The Cookie Monster]

#LastGenProblems

[oMass3y91]

But races are already ruined. Hell, Rockstar ruined them.

[G o d]

people still race with high hopes thinking nothing bad will happen to them? Lol

 

better never catch me in a GTA race with you OP. I'll kill you so much even you'll think i mod.

Edited February 12, 2015 by G o d

[Dumb guy]

One run in with a modder in a race.

Modders are ruining races.

Lost one race.

I've lost over 1k.

It will be ok pal.

[Sky_Light12]

well , prepare for recorder next time

[LUMTHEINVADER]

Can't say I surprised...

Modders have been doing this kinda stuff since GTA IV.

 

Want to play DM?

Nope, modder teleports you to a different part of the map & and continuously kills you.

Better yet, forces no one to kill each other and places/turns them into objects

 

Want to race?

Nope, modders freezes everyone's PS3's

Or gives himself a chromed car with neon lights that can use turbo

 

Want to do Freemode?

Nope, modders teleport you to a prison and you get stuck in caged part of cell and the modder turns invisible, takes all your weps away and spawns NPC's w/ guns to humiliate you.

[cox325]

this is this reason I and many others only play with friends, the world is full of wankers. Most of them play GTA online too.

[Nipper]

Racing, in GTA.

 

I don't see anything worthwhile ruining here.

 

Ruining races in Forza (or any racing game) multiplayer, yeah you're a dick.

Edited February 12, 2015 by Nipper

[CarimboHanky]

hahaha gotta admit that sound funny...

 

the 17500.00mins timer hahaha

[MeatSafeMurderer]

The fact is...there is only so much Rockstar can do. They will never be able to stop the modding on PS3 and 360 simply because Sony (and possibly Microsoft) have no way of stopping modified consoles from connecting to the networks. For every new PS3 system firmware an updated custom firmware is released within hours and the only thing Sony can do to even slow down the modders is ban the consoles but even that is only temporary. Long are the days where CFW users have to wait for weeks or months between periods of access. Personally I haven't even been banned...not even once. It's coming up to about a year of using the same console ID. To be fair I fly under the radar and don't do sh*t like this but you can easily see why it's never going to stop. Modding can be fun for everyone but some people are dicks. My suggestion is move to next-gen while the platforms are still secure.

Edited February 12, 2015 by MeatSafeMurderer

[Fozzie]

Let's be honest here..

 

Modders are the most fun and entertaining part of Last Gen at the moment.

I've started 2 additional characters, 1 just for Universal griefing because I am getting somewhat bored with the day to day missions and races.

If I see a modder in a public session I'll message them and tell them I am down for Shenanigans, usually it leads to some fun and good things and not getting my ass blown up.

[Jehannum]

Last gen current problems are current gen's future problems.

[Fail_At_GTA]

The last gen modding problem will only get worse because those consoles are so easy to mod on. You're going to have to deal with it because all Rockstar can do is ban them but they will be back shortly. You're going to have to deal with it unless you buy a current gen console.

[Non Fiction]

One run in with a modder in a race.

Modders are ruining races.

Lost one race.

I've lost over 1k.

It will be ok pal.

 

My record is 301wins 429losses...out of all my races I have only ran into a modder those 2 times I mentioned so I wasn't complaing about the loss i I was just informing that modders are now in race lobbies

[justinlynch3]

people still race with high hopes thinking nothing bad will happen to them? Lol

 

better never catch me in a GTA race with you OP. I'll kill you so much even you'll think i mod.

I race non contact as much as possible and generally quit GTA races at the menus to avoid death addicted trolls like you.

[Dumb guy]

 

One run in with a modder in a race.

Modders are ruining races.

Lost one race.

I've lost over 1k.

It will be ok pal.

My record is 301wins 429losses...out of all my races I have only ran into a modder those 2 times I mentioned so I wasn't complaing about the loss i I was just informing that modders are now in race lobbies

They've been there all along.

Sending a crappy message to this person evidently made him drop a ufo.

Moral of the story?

Don't be that guy.

[Jedi_n1te]

Can't say I surprised...

Modders have been doing this kinda stuff since GTA IV.

Want to play DM?

Nope, modder teleports you to a different part of the map & and continuously kills you.

Better yet, forces no one to kill each other and places/turns them into objects

Want to race?

Nope, modders freezes everyone's PS3's

Or gives himself a chromed car with neon lights that can use turbo

Want to do Freemode?

Nope, modders teleport you to a prison and you get stuck in caged part of cell and the modder turns invisible, takes all your weps away and spawns NPC's w/ guns to humiliate you.

Lol if u work out ur sig let me know

[Too Freakin Bad]

Last gen current problems are current gen's future problems.

Not likely for a few more years.

Modders have only just started digging into the Xbones SDKs, and even that may prove to be fruitless. Since the xbox one requires "check ins" with M$ servers when accessing anything under developers settings. I think we're safe for a good while until someone finds a way to spoof credentials/servers.

As for the PS4, who knows. Sony's sh*t always seems to be getting cracked.

[hangover_bro]

 

 

people still race with high hopes thinking nothing bad will happen to them? Lol

 

better never catch me in a GTA race with you OP. I'll kill you so much even you'll think i mod.

I race non contact as much as possible and generally quit GTA races at the menus to avoid death addicted trolls like you.I rarely exit vehicle in GTA race as I like to win, but I don't mind the "death addicted trolls" they add to my fun. And I think pitting is completely acceptable in GTA race.

[LUMTHEINVADER]

The fact is...there is only so much Rockstar can do. They will never be able to stop the modding on PS3 and 360 simply because Sony (and possibly Microsoft) have no way of stopping modified consoles from connecting to the networks. For every new PS3 system firmware an updated custom firmware is released within hours and the only thing Sony can do to even slow down the modders is ban the consoles but even that is only temporary. Long are the days where CFW users have to wait for weeks or months between periods of access. Personally I haven't even been banned...not even once. It's coming up to about a year of using the same console ID. To be fair I fly under the radar and don't do sh*t like this but you can easily see why it's never going to stop. Modding can be fun for everyone but some people are dicks. My suggestion is move to next-gen while the platforms are still secure.

I'm pretty sure Sony could do something about it.

Most modders on the PS3 use custom firmware to run various types of homebrew.

 

Homebrew & custom firmware don't usually work in unison. Homebrew can only work, if the custom firmware is compatible with it. If the author forgets to update the homebrew/make it compatible with the current custom firmware then no one else will be able to use it unless they downgrade their firmware or don't update their PS3 at all.

 

Now if the homebrew is "signed"

The homebrew could potentially work with the official firmware without having the need to use custom firmware, unless of course Sony keeps updating the PS3.

Eventually the person who used the homebrew would either have to update the signed homebrew or download the latest revision that supports the current firmware.

Edited February 12, 2015 by Harakiri_God

[JC Hammer]

The Problem is not consoles, it's that so much of GTAO is run P2P , the R* servers can provide some sanity cks to the results of races, missions etc... but while your in there the host is running the show, and if he's got a modded console, oh well, your screwed....

[LUMTHEINVADER]

 

Can't say I surprised...

Modders have been doing this kinda stuff since GTA IV.

Want to play DM?

Nope, modder teleports you to a different part of the map & and continuously kills you.

Better yet, forces no one to kill each other and places/turns them into objects

Want to race?

Nope, modders freezes everyone's PS3's

Or gives himself a chromed car with neon lights that can use turbo

Want to do Freemode?

Nope, modders teleport you to a prison and you get stuck in caged part of cell and the modder turns invisible, takes all your weps away and spawns NPC's w/ guns to humiliate you.

Lol if u work out ur sig let me know

I get lazy..

Some websites like using < > while others like to use [ ]

Not to mention the fact that I lack any real experience with HTML

Oh and I also have the tendency to forget some of the methods :'(

Edited February 12, 2015 by Harakiri_God

[Red DEAD]

Are they flying their cars and teleporting them like the days of GTA IV? I'm guessing no...

[MeatSafeMurderer]

I'm pretty sure Sony could do something about it.

Most modders on the PS3 use custom firmware to run various types of homebrew.

 

Homebrew & custom firmware don't usually work in unison. Homebrew can only work, if the custom firmware is compatible with it. If the author forgets to update the homebrew/make it compatible with the current custom firmware then no one else will be able to use it unless they downgrade their firmware or don't update their PS3 at all.

 

Now if the homebrew is "signed"

The homebrew could potentially work with the official firmware without having the need to use custom firmware, unless of course Sony keeps updating the PS3.

Eventually the person who used the homebrew would either have to update the signed homebrew or download the latest revision that supports the current firmware.

The homebrew/custom firmware issue used to be true between 3.40 and 3.55 however most homebrews made for 3.55 CFW will work on a 4.66 CFW, with a few notable exceptions. Namely anything that relies on patching LV1 and LV2 memory addresses and the like. The problem Sony has is that the public keys used by the PS3 to decrypt the firmware updates are...well...public. They are stored on every PS3 and late in 2012 someone (I forget who) dumped them. Since then any future OFW Sony releases can be decrypted, since they have to be decrypt-able by all PS3's currently out there. This means that within hours of Sony releasing a OFW CFW developers already have their hands on everything needed to create a CFW. This in turn means any changes Sony made to lock out CFW users will be made null and void by the new x.xx CFW which will be built off Sony's latest OFW and thus pass the requirements to sign in. There are things they could do to obfuscate this process but ultimately, because the PS3s security is so fundamentally broken there is nothing they can do to stop it. Not to mention debug firmwares, which, by their own (albeit unintentional) design, bypass some PSN restrictions and allow systems to connect that aren't even running an up to date or version spoofed firmware.

 

That's why they haven't bothered for the last few years, they won the battle but lost the war. Now banning is the only choice they have. This is something Sony can't fix. Rockstar can take measures to prevent running modified scripts but over time loopholes will be found...not to mention that they can't lock out people running debug eboots and using tools on their PCs.

 

Signing homebrew for OFW however is a whole different ballgame as it requires the 4.xx private keys and only the 3.55 private keys are known. This is why the 4.xx CFW's all require a 3.55/CFW PS3, because all CFWs/signed homebrews are signed with the 3.55 keys which 3.55+ OFW's automatically revoke.