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Manhunt: ART


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(Technically not GTA game but will take place in the GTA HD Universe)

 

You play as Clara Velena, a rather brutal and merciless vigilante (who has earned the name of "Nemesis" by various gangs) that has been captured by unseen gang leader and snuff director known simply as ART. They let her go into an abandoned town in North Yankton to be hunted down and killed brutally on film. Well, she will certainly help with one aspect, killing her assailants in increasingly brutal and vicious ways. You also can find clues and messages about how this town became abandoned in the first place and find out more about the mysterious ART. Lets just hope she doesnt get addicted to the violence too much.

(yeah, i know, kinda a bad idea, but was just on the top of my head)

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Kinda, but will be set in North Yankton instead of Carcer City/ Cottonmouth and the antagonist is a mad artist rather than a pervert/ evil personality. Note that in this universe, Manhunt and Manhunt 2 may or may not have happened. It will also take place in 2003.

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Kinda, but will be set in North Yankton instead of Carcer City/ Cottonmouth and the antagonist is a mad artist rather than a pervert/ evil personality. Note that in this universe, Manhunt and Manhunt 2 may or may not have happened. It will also take place in 2003.

 

In almost all instances, if you have to describe your work as "It's just like X but with Y", it's not going to be any good.

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Except its not "just like Manhunt" while the reason for the plot is the same, the characters are different. James Earl Cash was a death row inmate while Clara Velena is a violent vigilante. One is a "bad" guy who undoubtedly is not a good person but is unquestionably better morally than the villain, while the other is a "good" guy who may be just as evil at heart as the villain (but for different reasons) and may just be using the excuse of cleaning up crime to feed their blood lust.

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So it's Manhunt with different names and slightly different motives.

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so its universetwisters making digs for the sake of it? give X12-1992 a bit of time to flesh the idea out and see where it goes. this board may be close to its last legs but the negativity is what killed it in the first place.

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Also unlike Manhunt there will be NO gunplay. It will be purely stealth based. And you can use the environment as a weapon, being able to kill someone without even getting close to them. But these are harder to perform, and if you dont get the timing just right, you will regret it,

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so its universetwisters making digs for the sake of it? give X12-1992 a bit of time to flesh the idea out and see where it goes. this board may be close to its last legs but the negativity is what killed it in the first place.

 

Thus far is just sounds like a fill-in-the-blanks Manhunt but alright, I'll give him a chance.

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Also there will be no (wanted) sexual content. And btw, im a woman. And no, the reason im against it having sexual content is not because i dont like sex, its because i feel it distracts from the atmosphere. Though some of the violence will involve multilating genitals, so i guess for some that could mean "sexual content". And its both men and women getting it done. Its equal opportunity carnage.

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I'd like to know how sex distracts from the atmosphere of a seedy and murderous abyss. I can't take North Yankton seriously without some needle fiend rug for sale.

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I'd like to know how sex distracts from the atmosphere of a seedy and murderous abyss. I can't take North Yankton seriously without some needle fiend rug for sale.

Well, i dont want it to be obvious. And i dont want it to be fanservice at all.

 

I choose North Yankton to have in a more cold, snowy environment. Blood goes well with white.

 

Oh, and in the final level, ART starts using turrets and other advance computer operated weapons, and you will only be able to temporarily disable them. making it a true SURVIVAL horror, since this time you cant kill your attackers.

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Why doesn't sexual content go well with white? I'm fine with North Yankton. If you're going to strip it bare of prostitutes and other freaks however, why bother? If the entire game is based around snuff, why can't I kill and f*ck a prostitute?

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Um, because thats not what the game is about (atleast the f*cking part, Clara is asexual). Snuff isnt about sexual violence, its about real violence that some deeply disturbed individuals get off on. Violence IS Sex.

I really do not like the awkward fully clothed sex and fake moaning in GTA V. Plus of course want to avoid AO rating.

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Snuff isnt about sexual violence, its about real violence that some deeply disturbed individuals get off on. Violence IS Sex.

So bashing someone's skull in with a hammer or thereabouts is fine, but god forbid a hooker gets their head beat in? I might be interpreting it wrong, or I might not know the full, but that seems to be the jist of it thus far.

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You are. If there was a need for hookers in the game, you would be able to do violent kills to them too. But this isnt about killing helpless whores. These people have various skill levels, but if they see you they WILL kill you. But anyone who appears in the game, you can kill. it doesnt matter if they have a c*ck or c*nt.

Though maybe we could add killing or saving prostitutes a morality choice that will affect how the game ends.

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Okay, so no gunplay? Last time I recalled, this was a Grand Theft Auto forum, not a Sleeping Dogs forum. Even Manhunt had guns, so why take them away? Say, for example, if the protagonist is struggling with an enemy who has a gun and she kills him, why wouldn't she take the gun? I understand that it's supposed to be based around stealth, but other stealth games have un-silenced weapons. They encourage you not to use them, as it is loud and alerts enemies, but they are there just in case. I suggest changing the NO gunplay because of the aforementioned points.

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Because many people complained about the lack of stealth in the late points of Manhunt and a large chunk of Manhunt 2. And Clara mainly has skills in stealth, she doesnt have skill in guns, she doesnt pick them up because she would actually be at a large disadvantage with them.

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So, let me get this straight. She's a vigilante who doesn't use guns. Alright, yeah. I can see it. Not really, though.

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Um, actually, yes. She doesnt use guns. Thats why she's feared, because she can kill before you even know it. She even wiped out a majority of Vercetti Crime Family (in my eyes events in the 3D universe happened in HD universe with a few adjustments) before eventually being captured and brought before a now much older Tommy Vercetti, who would have had her killed if she was not rescued by ART.

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Um, actually, yes. She doesnt use guns...

Out of wondering, why do you begin sentences with "um"? I've never got that in general and every answer I look up gives me a dead end.

 

But on topic though, guns can be just as violent as melee stuff or whatever you're fixing her to use. What's so wrong with taking a double barrel shotgun and turning somebody's skull into something that looks like a cross between a deflated balloon and a tragic spaghetti accident? That sounds pretty violent in itself.

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I never said guns cant be violent, What im saying is i rather there be no guns so you have to focus on stealth and quick kills.

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no guns, No prostitutes, Tommy Vercetti dead?

This sucks....
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I never said guns cant be violent, What im saying is i rather there be no guns so you have to focus on stealth and quick kills.

Then who's saying guns can't be stealthy? Fashion up a silencer, muffle the shots, etc. I haven't seen many folks complain about the lack of stealth in the later stages of Manhunt like you said earlier. It seems like there's a good mix between them in the second one. Hell, it was a thrill to use guns in the second one after being stuck with melee stuff for a good while.

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no guns, No prostitutes, Tommy Vercetti dead?

This sucks....

 

He's not dead. Also, you keep assuming this is a GTA game. its not. Its set in the GTA HD universe, but it is not a GTA game. And if soemone can move this topic if it needs be, ok.

 

And, off topic, am i the only one who thinks the prostitutes in GTA are a waste, since basically its just awkward clothed sex? In my mind, do it all the way, or dont do it at all. And it should still have an M rating, because its not R* fault if someone gets it for their kid without reading the content warnings for "sexual scenes".

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Wow, why are people so against the idea of game that doesnt devolve into a run and gun game? Why do games need guns to be fun?

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Wow, why are people so against the idea of game that doesnt devolve into a run and gun game? Why do games need guns to be fun?

I wouldn't think it would "devolve", but rather evolve. You have to sneak up behind people and risk them noticing you just to whack them across the head or stab them in the back of the neck. Then as you progress through the game, you'd get a gun which lets you kill people further away. My question to you is how simply having guns would make it "devolve".

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And, off topic, am i the only one who thinks the prostitutes in GTA are a waste, since basically its just awkward clothed sex? In my mind, do it all the way, or dont do it at all. And it should still have an M rating, because its not R* fault if someone gets it for their kid without reading the content warnings for "sexual scenes".

Grand Theft Auto depicts the criminal underworld in it's entirety. Prostitutes are a part of that whether you like it or not. The pixillated sex is optional. You go to any red light district in the world and you are going to see prostitutes. Remove them and you remove any credibility your setting has along with them, Grand Theft Auto or Manhunt. Even Red Dead had hookers - purely for atmosphere.

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I mean, i dont have a problem with the hookers, i have the problem with them being half-assed. Even if the nudity is pixelated like in Saints Row, atleast let it be somewhat authentic, and not clothed dry humping.

Also this takes place in an ABANDONED town, meaning, there will be few if no civilians in it. There wont be prostitutes because there wont be normal people for them to sell the service of sex to, I wonder why no one picked up on that.

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Even if the nudity is pixelated like in Saints Row, atleast let it be somewhat authentic, and not clothed dry humping.

V had nudity and it still had an M rating, penis & all.

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