Mortifer0 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hey! So I considering to buy GTA V for PC. The fact that GTA have first person mode make sound very interesting. But for me realism is a very crucial point, and watching console videos when drining in first person mode with those blurry mirrors that cant reflect the cars around you really destroy th overall impression. Is there any chance there will be "real" cars mirrors in the PC version or that the will be released a patch/mode at some point implementing it? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV Mods Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Nice topic, i agree! I think the way it's done on XBONE/PS4 versions is just a specular shader also used on vehicle body and glass and etc. which isn't real-time reflection, but game is capable of doing real-time reflections as there are reflections in interiors as such. Edited February 7, 2015 by GTARandom GAMIR_GTA 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066931971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuraiShidosha Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 There is maybe 5% chance PC will have real reflections. The console reflections are dynamic cubemaps that are real time but only reflect a very limited amount of detail and the surface of the mirrors aren't always perfectly flat between the polygons of the model or the normal map. So you get these blurry distorted reflections that look bad no matter how little detail is showing in them. Modders can fix the models to have perfectly flat mirrors so reflections look better but they can't make the mirrors "real" and reflect cars and people. Even still if the 5% chance wins and Rockstar add real mirrors to PC, it will hurt frame rate very bad. That's why I don't think they'll add it. reiniat 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066932178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dx2words Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 not gonna happen man. Being realistic here. ItsJustMeSrsly 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066932381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_BlackScout Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Why not?Would be a cool feature, hope they're nice enough to make it happen. I also have to agree that it looks pretty much weird. Still, not worse than The Crew... It's all grey -.-, and that is since BETA, people complained about it but devs haven't give a sh*t '-'. Edited February 7, 2015 by BlackScout Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066932731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimoire2008 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 All we need is a low quality reflection for the middle and side mirror. It can be rendered at far less detail with limited lighting quality and distance. We don't have to see every little thing behind us in the distance, only what is within the vicinity that is relevant (like cars). I would easily take a 5-10 fps drop for this just like people who do the same for 8xAA and SSAO. Just don't think it's something people would even notice enough for R* to care. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066933064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasez Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Why not? Would be a cool feature, hope they're nice enough to make it happen. I also have to agree that it looks pretty much weird. Still, not worse than The Crew... It's all grey -.-, and that is since BETA, people complained about it but devs haven't give a sh*t '-'. Then there's Driver San Francisco where mirrors don't reflect what's behind you but what's in front. Spider-Vice and BS_BlackScout 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066933087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurotrash Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Why not? Misunderstood, DIEXEL, Arya35 and 9 others 12 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066933315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick930930 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Chances are, PC version of GTA will not feature anything THAT unique from the PS4/XboxOne version. it will look close to identical just like every other next gen game release on the PC. The cube mapping on the PS4 mirrors currently is fine in my opinion. You can still see vague reflections and it looks decent enough. Better than battlefield's mirrors at least lol robban and Eurotrash 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066934371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agem Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Chances are, PC version of GTA will not feature anything THAT unique from the PS4/XboxOne version. it will look close to identical just like every other next gen game release on the PC. Nah, it's not a copy paste port, it'll be the same level of Max Payne 3, same game with far more graphical options. You can already see that comparing the PS4 version with some of the 4K screenshots. It ALREADY looks really different. PlasmaFLOW, Evan-KCR, BS_BlackScout and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066935231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 no doubts (FOR ME) its a port cuz they take xtra time for development this game twice* and game not support 32 bit systems, those was popular back in 2010- 2012* that's enough proofs for me. atmso far i think game will be have same stuff as have earlier game versions (360, ps3 to xbox one, ps4) so no working mirrors or rainy windshilds in pc version. imo Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066938161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It would be nice to have, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066938227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It would be nice to have, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. it can via mods that only way to avoid bitching from previous platforms Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066938252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It would be nice to have, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. it can via mods that only way to avoid bitching from previous platforms I'm referring to a vanilla game. Of course the modding community will be able to add reflections to the mirrors. Antaxi 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066938257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K20 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 after seeing number plate lighting for PC, anythings possible. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066942716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 after seeing number plate lighting for PC, anythings possible. plate lighting also works on ps4(at nightime,test Amanda sentinel car you can turn on /off but cant smashed it) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066942770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K20 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 after seeing number plate lighting for PC, anythings possible. plate lighting also works on ps4(at nightime,test Amanda sentinel car you can turn on /off but cant smashed it) my bad. dont have a ps4.... goin on forum info. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066942784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) after seeing number plate lighting for PC, anythings possible. plate lighting also works on ps4(at nightime,test Amanda sentinel car you can turn on /off but cant smashed it) my bad. dont have a ps4.... goin on forum info. pc version will be good, sure it have same gameplay futures as on cg, so far nothing new- like exclusive content for Pc but PC will be greatest version with no doubt. Edited February 9, 2015 by Antaxi Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066942818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmaFLOW Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 no doubts (FOR ME) its a port cuz they take xtra time for development this game twice* and game not support 32 bit systems, those was popular back in 2010- 2012* that's enough proofs for me. atm so far i think game will be have same stuff as have earlier game versions (360, ps3 to xbox one, ps4) so no working mirrors or rainy windshilds in pc version. imo One could say exactly the opposite; that being "No doubts for me that its NOT a port because they take extra time for the development of the game twice..." So yeah... as to the OP I don't think anything too fancy will be implemented or anything. Maybe the same tech than in PS4/X1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066957924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SausageTaste Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Even a mobile game has this. Edited February 16, 2015 by SausageTaste bensons, UltraGizmo64, MythAlex and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066974634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZCOOL Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Nice topic, i agree! I think the way it's done on XBONE/PS4 versions is just a specular shader also used on vehicle body and glass and etc. which isn't real-time reflection, but game is capable of doing real-time reflections as there are reflections in interiors as such. it's a fixed reflection or i guess the lod models of the map? when playing in snow the reflection would still be summer was too obvious when driving the dubsta and seeing the reflection on the back spare tire Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066975156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sikee Atric Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Mirrors are something the modding scene will have to fix. They are not coming out with the initial release.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066975162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurotrash Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Mirrors are something the modding scene will have to fix. They are not coming out with the initial release.... It's unlikely, but not impossible. Someone here mentioned lit up license plates which aren't in the console versions? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066975182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_killz Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Not buying the game because of the car mirrors is a bad move IMO. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066976219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS4NT0SK1LL3RV Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The water on the ground when there is a lightning storm also does only reflect the scenario, not the vehicles. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066976234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindawg Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Because it only renders static parts of the map. Nothing dynamic will be rendered on car reflections, windows or water... Naroon 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066976280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurotrash Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Not buying the game because of the car mirrors is a bad move IMO. One would argue that buying the game is a bad move.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066976411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroon Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Even a mobile game has this. What game is that? Looks pretty damned good for a mobile game . Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066990535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soad667 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's Real Racing 3. And yeah, it's one of the most visually impressive games i played on my tablet. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.r3_row Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066990715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick930930 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Even a mobile game has this. Racing games are entirely different from open world 3rd person action games. GTA features a gigantic world with far more animations, details, effects, etc. A racing game is just that.. a racing game. Has very little that needs to be rendered to make it look good. That's why racing games are some of the best looking games out there. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765828-car-mirrors-in-pc-version/#findComment-1066991627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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