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Journey_95

How would Ballad of Gay Tony be if Rockstar made it more like..

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B Dawg

How TBOGT looks like:

6317-gta-iv-tbogt.jpg

How it should have looked like:

MmR8H9U.jpg

 

I was playing Drug Wars again, playing as Packie with Niko as a bodyguard, flying a helicopter in the morning time. The f*cking sky was so pink and the water reflections were so f*cking pink as well I had to f*cking change it! I couldn't take looking at such awful colors anymore! Fifty shades of grey and yellow will always look good, pink on the other hand, never will! Turns out it was as simple as getting IV's timecyc and visualsettings and copying em over to TBOGT, while the HUD needed copying over hud.dat and hudcolor.dat, while the radar required changing HUD_COLOUR_STAR (health), STARLIGHT (armor) and STARDARK (critical health) to be equivalent of Green, Blue and Red inside hudcolor.dat respectively along with copying the radar textures from IV to get rid of the pink hue over the radar.

 

I might mess with the mission/activity blips as well and then upload the whole thing for all people to enjoy, because nobody else ever bothered to.

 

"Let's see what's fixed. Sky and water colors? Check. Cash, ammo and street name colors? Check. Radar color? Big ♥♥♥♥ing check!"

Edited by B Dawg

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PhillBellic

Did you also change the 'timecyc.dat' files?

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B Dawg

Nope. Just copy IV's timecyc.dat from pc/data to TBOGT/pc/data and IV's visualsettings from common/data to TBOGT/common/data, that's it. Pretty simple. Going to do black&white conversions of blips.

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UshaB

Yo B Dawg I got a present for you!!! :D

 

 

BAM!!!

COLOURS, COLOURS

EVERYWHERE!!!

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Utr6YQ7y7aH6wx5bZN3YbzghISTOTyEeQIC947Zt

 

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PhillBellic

Nope. Just copy IV's timecyc.dat from pc/data to TBOGT/pc/data and IV's visualsettings from common/data to TBOGT/common/data, that's it. Pretty simple. Going to do black&white conversions of blips.

That's what I meant. ;)

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B Dawg

Yo B Dawg I got a present for you!!! :D

 

 

BAM!!!

COLOURS, COLOURS

EVERYWHERE!!!

34.jpg?new

Utr6YQ7y7aH6wx5bZN3YbzghISTOTyEeQIC947Zt

 

I got something too. Niko and Johnny are partying!

 

Y2BYeBf.jpg

 

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Karls

How TBOGT looks like:

6317-gta-iv-tbogt.jpg

How it should have looked like:

MmR8H9U.jpg

 

I was playing Drug Wars again, playing as Packie with Niko as a bodyguard, flying a helicopter in the morning time. The f*cking sky was so pink and the water reflections were so f*cking pink as well I had to f*cking change it! I couldn't take looking at such awful colors anymore! Fifty shades of grey and yellow will always look good, pink on the other hand, never will! Turns out it was as simple as getting IV's timecyc and visualsettings and copying em over to TBOGT, while the HUD needed copying over hud.dat and hudcolor.dat, while the radar required changing HUD_COLOUR_STAR (health), STARLIGHT (armor) and STARDARK (critical health) to be equivalent of Green, Blue and Red inside hudcolor.dat respectively along with copying the radar textures from IV to get rid of the pink hue over the radar.

 

I might mess with the mission/activity blips as well and then upload the whole thing for all people to enjoy, because nobody else ever bothered to.

 

"Let's see what's fixed. Sky and water colors? Check. Cash, ammo and street name colors? Check. Radar color? Big ♥♥♥♥ing check!"

You could also make the Drugs, Booty Call and all them side mission icons B/W, so it fits more in. :)

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B Dawg

Well I've made all the blips from pink into red instead of gray. Red indicating how negative all the contacts are :p Though I might do a gray version too (actually the grey is too dark and not sure how to make it purely Black & White with IrfanView without messing up the borders).

Not sure what to call my mod collection/package, Ballad Of Straight Luis? Gay Vision Remover? Luis's Gay Struggle?

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Karls

Well I've made all the blips from pink into red instead of gray. Red indicating how negative all the contacts are :p Though I might do a gray version too (actually the grey is too dark and not sure how to make it purely Black & White with IrfanView without messing up the borders).

Not sure what to call my mod collection/package, Ballad Of Straight Luis? Gay Vision Remover? Luis's Gay Struggle?

What about: The Ballad of Straight Tony (Enhanced HUD, TimeCyc and VIsualSet.)

Or something like that. I really like the "straight" names.

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B Dawg

Sure I'll go with that, and add in a bit of optional extras I like to use too.

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iiCriminnaaL 49

Let me guess:

  1. Larger role of the drug business (which would increase Armando's and Henrique's roles).
  2. Making the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers friendly towards Luis, with the ability to call them for backup (according to the game's script, backup system was going to be present in TBoGT, as in IV and TLaD).
  3. Making Yusuf Amir a serious businessman, as was mentioned in vanilla.
  4. Connections with Elizabeta, due to the drug business (either a friend or a rival).
  5. Making the missions balanced and more grounded.
  6. Way more character development.
  7. Either bigger rivalry with Bulgarin, getting to kill Rocco, or setting Giovanni Ancelotti as the main antagonist.
  8. A choice for Tony's fate in 'Party's Over'.

 

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The Rockstar Gamer 108

TB0GT is PERFECT. If we see more deeply, and refer th the MAIN 3D Trilogy,

 

GTA 4 is similar to San Andreas. More interiors, more features, clothing, more diverse places, peds and areas, and more Missions.

 

tLaD is similar to GTA 3. Dull, depressive, no featues, less missions, everything less.

 

TBOGT is like Vice City. Goof missions, outfits, mediocre features, good atmosphere etc.

 

According to the people (I am talking about the whole world),

San Andreas > Vice City  > GTA III

=> GTA IV > TBOGT > tLaD

 

Thus, TBOGT is the best in the trilogy after GTA IV (Proved).

Since TBOGT is the 2nd best, everything in TBOGT is good, that's why people love it.

 

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JimFitzgeraldBiker
3 hours ago, The Rockstar Gamer 108 said:

TB0GT is PERFECT. If we see more deeply, and refer th the MAIN 3D Trilogy,

 

GTA 4 is similar to San Andreas. More interiors, more features, clothing, more diverse places, peds and areas, and more Missions.

 

tLaD is similar to GTA 3. Dull, depressive, no featues, less missions, everything less.

 

TBOGT is like Vice City. Goof missions, outfits, mediocre features, good atmosphere etc.

 

According to the people (I am talking about the whole world),

San Andreas > Vice City  > GTA III

=> GTA IV > TBOGT > tLaD

 

Thus, TBOGT is the best in the trilogy after GTA IV (Proved).

Since TBOGT is the 2nd best, everything in TBOGT is good, that's why people love it.

 

Were you hanging out in those crappy forums called IGN and Gamespot? Its bullsh*t how GTA 3 is better than GTA 4 in general when in reality, every true GTA player knows GTA 4 is the better game. Next thing you're gonna say is that GTA 5 is the 2nd best GTA game ever behind SA.

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Spelled bettet instead of better

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HeistsActivist
On 9/18/2015 at 9:55 PM, Joker In The Pack said:

 

To be honest TBOGT has always felt a bit like an afterthought. I still stand by that it has grown on me over the years and I do enjoy the night life atmosphere it brings, but it doesn't tie in with GTA IV as well as TLAD does.

 

I would've preferred an episode in its place revolving around the McRearies with Packie as the protagonist. Packie would be more interesting as a protagonist than Luis IMO. TBOGT is still a really good game it just isn't as great as GTA IV and TLAD.

I still want to see the McRearies again and even play as one of  my favorite gta characters of all time: Packie 

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SmokesWithCigs
On 2/11/2015 at 8:16 PM, KY Jello said:

I liked it TBOGT really rediscovered LC again it went from being a dark depressing place to showing us all of the lights and the nightlife of LC. I remember passing by Maisonette in TBOGT and seeing how different the area looked like compared to IV and TLAD where you would pass by it all the time in TBOGT it's one of the hottest clubs in the city and the place to be.

TBOGT fits into the GTA IV trilogy even though it is odd it's all connected R* kinda made IV like Pulp fiction the thing with the diamonds, Three leaf clover, Bulgarin, Ray etc...

This guy gets it.

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iiCriminnaaL 49
On 7/8/2018 at 4:09 PM, The Rockstar Gamer 108 said:

refer th the MAIN 3D Trilogy,

 

GTA 4 is similar to San Andreas. More interiors, more features, clothing, more diverse places, peds and areas, and more Missions.

 

tLaD is similar to GTA 3. Dull, depressive, no featues, less missions, everything less.

 

TBOGT is like Vice City. Goof missions, outfits, mediocre features, good atmosphere etc.

I know the reply was posted around an half year ago, but it's okay.

 

Well, it depends on how you picture the 3D era's trilogy.

 

When it comes to themes, each one is obviously different, but there're similarities nonetheless:

  • IV shows the theme of a hitman avenger who works for several contacts, including mob bosses and corrupt politics, similar to GTA III.
  • The Lost and Damned mixes the themes of Vice City's badass criminal leadership and San Andreas' gang life along with the grittiness and darkness of GTA III - thus, it took the core aspects.
  • The Ballad of Gay Tony mixes (horribly I'd say) Vice City's nightclub scene and Toreno's over the top branch of San Andreas. (over the top has always been only a small part of the franchise, from GTA III up to The Lost and Damned - even in San Andreas. The Ballad of Gay Tony took that small part and made it into a main theme with a ridiculous level, and then was followed by GTA V.)

The Lost and Damned has a decent amount of missions too, for an expansion pack. The Ballad of Gay Tony has only four additional missions compared to the former, and still, three of them are pretty generic and fillers.

 

When it comes to features, The Lost and Damned also has a good amount of features too; additional weapons and bikes, ordering free weapon deliveries, and backup system. Not to mention the episodic side-missions and mini-games: Gang Warfare, Bike Races, Angus' Bike Thefts, Stubbs' Dirty Laundry, Arm Wrestling and Gambling.

Edited by iiCriminnaaL 49

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Zello
Posted (edited)

I guess they would have focused more on Armando & Henrique , Willy Valero and the Gomez brothers. Luis would somehow get dragged into their mess. Less over the top stuff and Bulgarin would have been cut.

Edited by Zello

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rupturebok
On 2/7/2015 at 1:35 AM, Journey_95 said:

 

dude chill the f*ck out

of course the characters would have been largely the same I'm talking about the tone since GTA IV and Tlad were dark and serious

and for TBoGT to be so light hearted and over the top ..doesn'T fit the GTA IV Saga at all & Update Madalin Stunt Cars 2 full version.

 

Also no I'm not a film critic but a good story is important in games too and its a good thing that not only people on this site but in general like a good story in games

the times with games having sh*tty stories are over thank god (mostly at least)

 

so grow the f*ck up don't care about story ? fine but don't critize those who do and also TboGT had a terrible story

IMO TBOGT isn't bad, R* just realized that a gritty and dark story isn't what most players really wanted. So they went back to the path they started with SA. What I don't like about this DLC, it was the start of the mission checkpoins. AKA let them set the way how you must play the mission. At least TBOGT has good crime-based side missions, unlike V.

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Posted (edited)

I don't know if it was a pandering to fans thing as much a just trying a different direction to contrast with IV and TLAD thing. That's how I like to see it, it's a third different view on the city and a chance to experience the city with different guns/features etc to make it worth buying a third instalment. Like, they've done a serious and sombre story, a badass gritty biker story and now how about a more light hearted and glitzy story and let players have some over the top stuff before we're done with LC and on to the next game/location. With three instalments to play with they had the chance to have their cake and eat it too by doing stripped down versions for a serious story with realism AND a more over the top version where LC and the new physics etc can be experienced with crazier weapons and a tank and parachutes etc, so why not. It would've been a hard sell to put out another game sticking with the same tone and same stripped down features with no kind of new/different twist. 

 

I do think they made it a bit too silly and over the top at times, and that they could've still achieved a different/glitzier feel and included the extra features while keeping the story a bit more serious. But I'm not sure how much of it is "backtracking" or thinking they have to give fans that stuff and how much is just because they wanted a different vibe for each IV story and thought it would be cool/entertaining.

 

Edited by billiejoearmstrong8

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iiCriminnaaL 49
Posted (edited)

Personally, while I still prefer the darker and grittier approach, I'm not against the idea of making TBOGT more lighthearted than IV and TLAD. It just needed to tone the humor down, flesh out the characters more and handle the soundtrack more properly; a completely new radio station for Vladivostok FM's selection, and (pure subjective, but looks like a lot of people agree) better selections for Electro-Choc and San Juan Sounds.

 

The HUD items should've been a little less colorful as well. Just pink destination markers and light blue for the armor bar and menu items would've done it.

Edited by iiCriminnaaL 49

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TheSantader25

It would be boring. It was time for R* to explore New York from a different perspective. 

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Cjrememberthat

To me, yeah compared to the other two it may feel a little strange but it is amazing in its own way, unlike niko and johnny boy, luis is someone that gives a sh*t about nothing, its tone, club theme and freedom with luis lopez is awesome to me

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