Ocean is a waste

[Nah nah nah Gta 6]

I hate it when people want realism but when they get it they just complain about it.

[Carlito117]

From a realistic perspective, it's fine the way it is really isn't it?

 

From a gaming perspective, yeah a couple of extra things to explore would be cool. The oil platform was a decent shout.

 

Personally, the ocean just adds to the depth and perspective of the game.

[Cutter De Blanc]

I encountered a school of hammerheads when I was out there. I got out of the sub and tried to kill them. No go. I floated around with them circling me for a few minutes, but then it was boring and I moved on. I know the next time I see them nothing will happen, so I probably won't ever stop to try and interact with them again.

[Van_Hellsing]

R* could have made some missions out in the ocean. Like in the original "The Mechanic" movie with Charles Bronson. Or the Bourne Identity, whack some dictator on a cruiser. Or in Captain America The Winter soldier, infiltrate an oil tanker and rescue hostages. Jack some dope coming in with a speedboat. Blow up an oil rig, you name it.

 

Now it is used in kill A, move to B and deliver it at C over the sea. Everything in GTA has the potential for fun gameplay. It is not used to the max.

[Wylight]

Ah another one of those threads complaining there isn't enough to do in the f*cking ocean/underwater, gotta love'em.

[.Ryan.]

 

GTA IV/EFLC- the ocean looked more like some poluted dam and it had very unappealing looks. Niko, Johnny and Luis could swim but not dive. The ocean felt dead and lifeless.

 

I'm glad they didn't didn't bother with a detailed ocean floor because people would then complain of how murky and dirty everything is which is what I'd imagine most of Liberty City's waterways to look like underneath.

 

Imagine diving in the Humboldt River? The first thing that comes to my mind is discarded shopping carts and other garbage with your visibility reduced by murky water. IMO it wasn't necessary for GTA IV to have a detailed ocean and they used their time and resources well to put into Liberty City.

[Webster.]

And not having an ocean is the solution for this problem?

 

I wouldn't say the ocean is the most interactive, but I wouldn't say it is a waste neither. You're also forgetting about the numerous things that can be found on the ocean floorboard.

 

 

You can also find plane and boat wrecks among an interactive shark. The further you go then you will experience how harsh the waves get. Comparing the GTA V ocean to the previous ones, I would definitely consider it an improvement. Perhaps it can be improved but there is always time for that in the next GTA games

[DISCO-INFERNO-70]

Ah, another post complaining about "another thread about", gotta love em'.

[CarlitoDorito]

You can get weapons and money from the ocean, the rail gun can be found in the Alamo sea. It saves you $185000, good if you want to get it early and haven't got the money. It's good if you don't want to get it by being a dirty cheat too

 

It's not completely wasted.

[hornedturtle]

The ocean is mostly there to hide the edge of the map. Alot of the ocean is in extremely low resolution due to the poor texture quality being hidden by water. It isn't so much a waste, but rather filler.

[CaptainMental]

Its quite easy for Rockstar to get players to roam the oceans more.

 

Here are some quick suggestions:

 

* Have maritime crate drops, i e crates either dropping on ocean floor or floating on the surface.

* Have a special vehicle to be delivered to the docks, for instance a motorboat of some type or a jetski.

* Create some oil platforms to have deathmatches and missions on.

* Have a special target roam the waters in a boat/jetski with a reward for taking it out.

 

The map itself has a lot of design flaws, its been mentioned numerous times, most commonly people complain about having one airfield down south and then two very close to each other in the middle, adding to that the worlds smallest desert the lengt of a landing strip making it a sand box pretty much. A map with more inland waterways could make people travel more by boat and jetski.

[Alvarez]

This above.

Maritime sea crate drops are a wonderful suggestion, but it's applicable to Online.

 

For repeatable singleplayer missions i would suggest piracy - rob speedboats and yachts (force the crew to throw valuables over board or board their vessel if you killed them) and avoiding Coast Guard by navigation or handling heavy sea (Jetmax for speed, Dinghy for heavy sea/"offroad")

Including various sea conditions in certain areas. It's not all flat water.

 

Or on another side, SAR missions with a helicopter during storms, when you have to hover right above wave tips. In the fuсking storm. With a yacht nearby wildly swinging its mast, almost in your rotor.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Alvarez

[Markhayzy]

Those who say the desert is small are insane, the actual area is almost as big as los santos from the rocky dunes near the alien shrine, sandy shores, ace liquor right across to mount josiah. Its only small from the air. TRY WALKING ACROSS IT and you'll realize the size. I feel that the draw distances in new gen make it feel alot larger on the ground. As for the ocean name me an ocean in any other videogame that is more realistic and interactive.....people forget what rockstar have created here

[OurJud]

Those who say the desert is small are insane, the actual area is almost as big as los santos from the rocky dunes near the alien shrine, sandy shores, ace liquor right across to mount josiah. Its only small from the air. TRY WALKING ACROSS IT and you'll realize the size. I feel that the draw distances in new gen make it feel alot larger on the ground. As for the ocean name me an ocean in any other videogame that is more realistic and interactive.....people forget what rockstar have created here

 

What desert?

 

Anyway, I agree with your sentiments. People are too busy critising Rockstar because of the heists (which I'm sick of hearing about and even less interested in) to appreciate just what they've done here. I'm still playing after all this time, and it STILL blows me away.

[MrDeSanta]

 

 

GTA IV/EFLC- the ocean looked more like some poluted dam and it had very unappealing looks. Niko, Johnny and Luis could swim but not dive. The ocean felt dead and lifeless.

 

I'm glad they didn't didn't bother with a detailed ocean floor because people would then complain of how murky and dirty everything is which is what I'd imagine most of Liberty City's waterways to look like underneath.

 

Imagine diving in the Humboldt River? The first thing that comes to my mind is discarded shopping carts and other garbage with your visibility reduced by murky water. IMO it wasn't necessary for GTA IV to have a detailed ocean and they used their time and resources well to put into Liberty City.

 

You`re right about this but i didn`t say LC should have clean ocean with detailed sea floor. It`s probably pretty realistic to be dirty for a port city like LC. But i wanted to say that having such detailed ocean like we have in V is something new and nice so people shouldn`t complain so much about being boring. Especially due to what we had in the past.

[A-Wax8]

the money packs are usefull for roleplay when you ain't got money early in the game. You can imagine to get a big payment for whatever you have done and receive it via diving in the ocean lol

[Police Sniper]

 

Those who say the desert is small are insane, the actual area is almost as big as los santos from the rocky dunes near the alien shrine, sandy shores, ace liquor right across to mount josiah. Its only small from the air. TRY WALKING ACROSS IT and you'll realize the size. I feel that the draw distances in new gen make it feel alot larger on the ground. As for the ocean name me an ocean in any other videogame that is more realistic and interactive.....people forget what rockstar have created here

 

What desert?

 

Anyway, I agree with your sentiments. People are too busy critising Rockstar because of the heists (which I'm sick of hearing about and even less interested in) to appreciate just what they've done here. I'm still playing after all this time, and it STILL blows me away.

 

Never know the heists might turn out to be the best thing ever.

[OurJud]

 

 

Those who say the desert is small are insane, the actual area is almost as big as los santos from the rocky dunes near the alien shrine, sandy shores, ace liquor right across to mount josiah. Its only small from the air. TRY WALKING ACROSS IT and you'll realize the size. I feel that the draw distances in new gen make it feel alot larger on the ground. As for the ocean name me an ocean in any other videogame that is more realistic and interactive.....people forget what rockstar have created here

 

What desert?

 

Anyway, I agree with your sentiments. People are too busy critising Rockstar because of the heists (which I'm sick of hearing about and even less interested in) to appreciate just what they've done here. I'm still playing after all this time, and it STILL blows me away.

 

Never know the heists might turn out to be the best thing ever.

 

 

I can't see it myself. They'll just be glorified missions.

Edited February 7, 2015 by OurJud

[Police Sniper]

 

Never know the heists might turn out to be the best thing ever.

 

 

 

I can't see it myself. They'll just be glorified missions.

 

Feels like the theme GTA V is sticking with is the whole heist deal so it works for some but not for others.

[MrDeSanta]

Actually the desert is ridicolously small compared to the whole map. Especially to the Alamo sea and the mountains. But it wouldn`t be such a problem if Senora desert wouldn`t have so many roads crossing it. It kills the feel of isolation which desert should have.

Bone county in SA felt more isolated even tho it was small as well and cut by roads but it still felt bigger.

 

The problem with this map are too many mountains, too big Alamo sea and too small desert. Why is there got to be hundreds of roads cut through Senora desert?

 

As for the ocean, no other game comes even close to having such beautifull and realistic looking ocean. Even tho there could be more things to do, more missions involved and such, it`s still gorgeous when you just swim around, drive a seashark or stand at the el gordo lighthouse and looking at the waves splashing on the rocks. Not to mention those small islands south of Paleto Bay, it`s gorgeous.

[Stephan90]

I am fine with the ocean design. Maybe there could have been some bigger islands. I would love it if they could add the yacht and aircraft carrier from the GTA online heists trailer to the single player.

 

The biggest problem with the map for me is the amount of hills and mountains without dense vegetation especially trees. Arent't there real forests around Los Angeles? I mean something like the Tall trees area in Red Dead Redemption. This was my favourite area because the vegetation was all around and above you and you were in the middle of a believable forest. This is missing in GTA V.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Stephan90

[OurJud]

The biggest problem with the map for me is the amount of hills and mountains without dense vegetation especially trees. Arent't there real forests around Los Angeles? I mean something like the Tall trees area in Red Dead Redemption. This was my favourite area because the vegetation was all around and above you and you were in the middle of a believable forest. This is missing in GTA V.

 

Could not agree more! The game seriously needs some large areas of dense woodland / forest. Flaten three of the big mountains and populate that area with dense trees.

 

When I watch gameplay of stuff like Arma / DayZ, I get really jealous of the forest they get in that game.

[J Cobra]

Yeah, let's bitch and moan, about something that's in every video game that has an open world!

Edited February 8, 2015 by J Cobra

[PhillBellic]

 

 

GTA IV/EFLC- the ocean looked more like some poluted dam and it had very unappealing looks. Niko, Johnny and Luis could swim but not dive. The ocean felt dead and lifeless.

 

I'm glad they didn't didn't bother with a detailed ocean floor because people would then complain of how murky and dirty everything is which is what I'd imagine most of Liberty City's waterways to look like underneath.

 

Imagine diving in the Humboldt River? The first thing that comes to my mind is discarded shopping carts and other garbage with your visibility reduced by murky water. IMO it wasn't necessary for GTA IV to have a detailed ocean and they used their time and resources well to put into Liberty City.

 

True there mate. I am happy that they used their time to develop the map the way they did in IV.

[Official General]

Yeah, let's bitch and moan, about something that's in every video game that has an open world!

 

Yeah sure, lets all have the same views and opinions, and completely miss the whole point of what a forum is for in the first place.

[J Cobra]

 

Yeah, let's bitch and moan, about something that's in every video game that has an open world!

 

Yeah sure, lets all have the same views and opinions, and completely miss the whole point of what a forum is for in the first place.

I'm just saying, this idea is just f*cking retarded.

[Koger]

 

As for the ocean, no other game comes even close to having such beautifull and realistic looking ocean.

 

Take a look at Just Cause 2.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6Em9qeH1o

 

 

[dftns19]

I think they could have cut the ocean in half. It doesn't need to go out very far from shore.

 

I spend no time out there except for the story missions so it's just a visual thing from the shoreline for me.

[GN 92]

I'd love a fishing DLC, new boats, fishing mini game, yatches, and all that stuff. I'd really love it.

[nkjellman]

I wouldn't say it is a waste. Why?

-It adds to the "i can go there" element of the game.

-It was generated I bet. Sure they might of modeled some things, but I bet it was automated.

-Ocean doesn't take up as much space as non ocean map, even if it doesn't cover the same area. This is because of the low draw distance so lods and slods are not needed.

-The ocean adds to GTA V. It sets it appart from the past GTA games. It even enabled Rockstar to add a new vehicle type to the series. Submarines.