"This is why we can't have nice things", do we all agree o

[JC Hammer]

 

 

R* gave you and your friends/crew the ability to design your own session and play however you like.

 

You, and others of the same opinion, are just mad you can't force every body else to play the way that you do

 

Here's another clue, when you start a b*tch and moan list and your 1st idea is that you think we need doubles in Tennis.... maybe you should rethink the whole list....

 

 

^ Perfect example of the people limiting this game.

 

Check his signature. Cars glitched. Passive Mode players killed. 9.00 K/D ratio? Probably used god mode.

Another degenerate trying to derail topics into the B*tch & Moan section.

 

It's obvious that the people ruining the game with constant griefing and glitching want it to stay the way it is.

 

 

I didn't think you should re-post your whining in another section, I suggested that if doubles Tennis was your biggest complaint than maybe its not so bad after all.

 

You realize that most of the stats in my signature don't really exist? I guess the sarcasm was a little too subtle for you....

[Zorvaine]

 

 

 

R* gave you and your friends/crew the ability to design your own session and play however you like.

 

You, and others of the same opinion, are just mad you can't force every body else to play the way that you do

 

Here's another clue, when you start a b*tch and moan list and your 1st idea is that you think we need doubles in Tennis.... maybe you should rethink the whole list....

 

 

^ Perfect example of the people limiting this game.

 

Check his signature. Cars glitched. Passive Mode players killed. 9.00 K/D ratio? Probably used god mode.

Another degenerate trying to derail topics into the B*tch & Moan section.

 

It's obvious that the people ruining the game with constant griefing and glitching want it to stay the way it is.

 

 

I didn't think you should re-post your whining in another section, I suggested that if doubles Tennis was your biggest complaint than maybe its not so bad after all.

 

You realize that most of the stats in my signature don't really exist? I guess the sarcasm was a little too subtle for you....

 

 

You're an idiot if you think that suggesting on how to improve the game is whining and complaining.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Zorvaine

[JC Hammer]

 

 

 

 

R* gave you and your friends/crew the ability to design your own session and play however you like.

 

You, and others of the same opinion, are just mad you can't force every body else to play the way that you do

 

Here's another clue, when you start a b*tch and moan list and your 1st idea is that you think we need doubles in Tennis.... maybe you should rethink the whole list....

 

 

^ Perfect example of the people limiting this game.

 

Check his signature. Cars glitched. Passive Mode players killed. 9.00 K/D ratio? Probably used god mode.

Another degenerate trying to derail topics into the B*tch & Moan section.

 

It's obvious that the people ruining the game with constant griefing and glitching want it to stay the way it is.

 

 

I didn't think you should re-post your whining in another section, I suggested that if doubles Tennis was your biggest complaint than maybe its not so bad after all.

 

You realize that most of the stats in my signature don't really exist? I guess the sarcasm was a little too subtle for you....

 

 

You're an idiot if you think that suggesting on how to improve the game is whining and complaining.

 

Degenerate / Idiot @ Zorvaine has mastered the Ad hominem argument ( along with singles Tennis apparently)

[Furry_Monkey]

"This is why we can't have nice things": do we all agree on this, right?

 

No. It is purely down to the way Rockstar as a business is run. The fact that all these glitches can be exploited at all is down to terrible development (not programming), which includes the whole application design from top down. This is the responsibility of individual project managers who are most likely employed as cheap as possible and are therefore inexperienced. If this game was torn down and rebuilt by an experienced development team you would not see these issues.

 

They're lucky that there's so much good about the game, or they'd all be screwed.

[hercules1975]

So what you are saying is:

 

Hate the players, not the game!

 

Ok, then...

 

P.S. That wasn't sarcasm, I agree about the thing to do with players wanting everything free/easy and using glitches/exploits.

 

I am a legit player, never used G-Mode, or invisibility, done any major money-glitches, etc.

 

I do add the odd modification onto vehicles before selling them, who wouldn't want to earn an extra $10k every 48 minutes.

 

It takes time to find the NPC cars I sell, so maybe that cancels the profit out anyway!?

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

True that on the community part

I already considered several times to open a poll and ask people to vote their age and then some options on what they think about cash cards and the content we are given among with a poll to fill in how many houres they play in a week and how much time they spend in freeroam

I already woud gues not even half of the people here is older then 17,there are more people that play atleast 20 houres a week then there are people that think the game is good(and not bad or mediocre)and there are more people that almost never play a job then people that think legit cash is hard to get in gtao

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

I love how people always blame CoD. I've played most of the CoD games and never had a problem with the other players but in GTA it's a different story. About 75% of the player base in this game does nothing but bitch and cry about everything. It's easy to blame somebody else instead of looking in the mirror and realizing you are the problem.

The only thing i woud complain about at the moment are some bugs and freeroam being a bit empty(minor isues)

That being said many people that are sometimes moaning slightly about the moaners but themselves being satisfied with the game(im one of those),they woud not be suprised if almost all cod players arent the ones that only freeroam and care about their kd ratio while ignoring half of the game and kinda anoying other players because they kill everyone on sight to boost their KD and coudnt even NOT fail in succeeding a mission

Though its never been prooved for real this is in fact the case i woudnt be suprised

Edit: also its sugested most players are kids that shoud be better off when trolled out of gtao hardcore

They should charge for all future DLC and release more of it in a steady stream. They should also charge monthly subscription to reduce the amount of under 18s playing the game and again help pay for more DLC more often.

 

Well then im out to..im 22 but im not paying extra for this sh*t dude.. wtf

seriously this woudnt help anyone

Ever heard of the fact most parents are weaklings against their childeren and woud just buy everything for them ?

Edited February 4, 2015 by goldadderXD

[_PANiC_]

 

I love how people always blame CoD. I've played most of the CoD games and never had a problem with the other players but in GTA it's a different story. About 75% of the player base in this game does nothing but bitch and cry about everything. It's easy to blame somebody else instead of looking in the mirror and realizing you are the problem.

The only thing i woud complain about at the moment are some bugs and freeroam being a bit empty(minor isues)

That being said many people that are sometimes moaning slightly about the moaners but themselves being satisfied with the game(im one of those),they woud not be suprised if almost all cod players arent the ones that only freeroam and care about their kd ratio while ignoring half of the game and kinda anoying other players because they kill everyone on sight to boost their KD and coudnt even NOT fail in succeeding a mission

Though its never been prooved for real this is in fact the case i woudnt be suprised

Edit: also its sugested most players are kids that shoud be better off when trolled out of gtao hardcore

They should charge for all future DLC and release more of it in a steady stream. They should also charge monthly subscription to reduce the amount of under 18s playing the game and again help pay for more DLC more often.

Well then im out to..im 22 but im not paying extra for this sh*t dude.. wtf

seriously this woudnt help anyone

Ever heard of the fact most parents are weaklings against their childeren and woud just buy everything for them ?

 

It would help the game immensely to have less young kids playing it. And if it means more DLC more often then I am fine with paying for it. I said subscription would reduce the the amount of underage players, any reduction would be good, there will always be terrible parents unfortunately.

[Strachan]

@ Panic - I think the opposite would happen. The adults among us who realise not may games are worth a monthly subscription would be put off that they started charging us for what is without a doubt only a good game, not really a great one. There are a few too many issues with the coding that would stop me paying, example the irritating AI that gets worse if your connection is hindered somehow (even other people in your session) - I wouldnt pay for that, or the cops, I wouldnt want to pay for PvP public sessions nor would I want to pay for empty private sessions when none of my friends are playing.
Also I wouldnt want to pay for digital assets like cars, clothes, houses, guns or any of that...and I wouldn't want to keep paying to play if everyone else had these things because lets face it - the people who will be ok to pay for play is the people with mummys credit card details or career gamers - none of these people I would want to pay to play with.
It would kill the game and most likely the franchise.
The simplest way for me to enjoy this game is server selection - Hardcore lobbies with no map etc, friendly lobbies with no PvP or better yet, options to start your own lobby with rules of your choosing. I doubt it would cause many server side issues as I still get thrown into empty sessions on Free Aim, wheres the harm in me choosing the environment rules?

[dorcy]

You can see it in the trailer of GTA Online, the open game is showed as a PvE game rather than a extended version of Nuketown. That was Rockstar's expectations, if they were aiming their ideas to that, no wonder today the game hardly adds a new feature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is the single biggest let down for me. watched the trailer, looked forward to the PvE multi player and imagined 16 players versus cops and army etc. however a year and a half on and i still spend little to no time in public sessions due to the adolecent "this is GTA" freemode deathmatch mentality of so many players.

 

yeah there is Invite only sessions but it'd be nice to meet new players who wanted to play in the game world the way R* showed us in the trailer. the simple addition of "join FF off session" would facilitate this and as a concession to the "this GTA" crowd R* could also add a "join Cops off session " option so that they could victimise each other in peace.

[JC Hammer]

 

You can see it in the trailer of GTA Online, the open game is showed as a PvE game rather than a extended version of Nuketown. That was Rockstar's expectations, if they were aiming their ideas to that, no wonder today the game hardly adds a new feature.

this is the single biggest let down for me. watched the trailer, looked forward to the PvE multi player and imagined 16 players versus cops and army etc. however a year and a half on and i still spend little to no time in public sessions due to the adolecent "this is GTA" freemode deathmatch mentality of so many players.

 

yeah there is Invite only sessions but it'd be nice to meet new players who wanted to play in the game world the way R* showed us in the trailer. the simple addition of "join FF off session" would facilitate this and as a concession to the "this GTA" crowd R* could also add a "join Cops off session " option so that they could victimise each other in peace.

 

 

I don't know what trailer you guys watched but I never expected to use GTAO to meet new friends online

 

R* gave us crews and crew sessions so like minded groups could band together and play cooperatively,or Invite only for the same reason

 

If the nature of Public lobbies surprised R* at all they would have made changes by now

[Fox2Quick]

 

Completely agree.

 

Freemode was suppose to be an open world MMORPG with lots of activities, character progression and various dynamic elements.

What we currently have is a constant Deathmatch with explosives and assault shotguns. People griefing each other in every way possible. People exploiting the game and youtubers promoting it's own self corruption. An easily pleased crowd of immature people and children.

 

People obsessing over K/D ratios and refusing to do anything creative such as capture modes, stunting, co-op and cruising.

 

The entirety of GTA:O seems as if it's in BETA mode and it's community wants it to stay that way so Rockstar decided to keep it as it is. Broken.

Rock star made a great game. But they could not predict how ppl will play. Now they have to adjust their plans simple as that

"They could not predict how people play" Sorry but that's bs. The GTA series has been out long enough to know exactly what people do in the game. Even when online first came out before V, it was the same thing. The majority of the community really hasn't changed its playstyle over the game generations.

 

You can't predict what people will do 100% of the time but there's plenty of history to support an accurate hypothesis.

[-Morbid-]

I just wish we had a crime game that was more in-depth... Basically a "Dark Souls" of the third person sandbox crime games, where you actually need to use your brain and practice and so on.

 

Make the driving more realistic instead of this kiddy stuff we have now, do away with auto-aim (and of course improve the free aim controls), don't let everyone carry around an armory worth of equipment, remove dots from the minimap, make the cops smarter, increase the value of stealth, make missions have more specific roles and such...

 

By lowering the game's depth to accommodate the lowest common denominator and drag in sales from casuals, you bring in the sort of scum who throw grenades at packages during missions and fail then restart the mission and do the same thing again, or run face-first towards the enemy in an LTS and get killed 10 seconds after the start and then quit before the next round can start, or gobble up those terrible jump races, and who don't want to put any effort into "winning" at the game and constantly whine about how they have to earn money and watch Domislive videos praying for a new money glitch.

 

I guess to put it simply: Make a game where idiots and jackasses can not only succeed, but thrive, and your game will be filled with idiots and jackasses.

 

Won't happen in a GTA game though, of course.

[Nipper]

This is a game for laughs, not competitive play.

 

Like football, the battlefield and cod games are professional, so there needs to be rules, as it's all about competitive gaming.

 

GTA is like having a kick around the park when you're 12.

 

Yeah I know, laugh out loud, if you don't get the point then that's on you.

 

The real reason we can't have nice things is because nice things take effort. Effort is not what R* like to expend.

 

(Feel free to disagree about R* not putting effort in, but I'll just refer you to the vehicle interiors on 8thGen)

Edited February 4, 2015 by Nipper

[meatrocket8]

I'll start by saying i LOVE this game. Its given me countless hours of endless fun and I've even made a few friends along the way.

 

That being said, its not perfect. I'm sure I could always find something to complain about, like Bad Sport or hackers.

 

OP...you can't blame ALL of this on players or hackers/modders...lets be honest here...Rockstar has released a product that is obviously easily modified or hacked & thats on them, no one else.

 

This isn't secure online banking, health or consumer information so of course I don't expect it to behave like that.

 

grow up

[StangOne50]

I hear what your saying but it is not our fault R can not properly code their game and avoid glitches. People forget R grossed over a billion dollars on this one video game. With that kind of money you can end world hunger yet they can not figure out how to keep a few glitches out of their game lol It just amazes me.

[LBCWorldWide]

Entitlement, laziness, and humming bird-like attention spans. Coupled with a mostly tween demographic and 'adults' who have refused to grow up, is major backdrops for trying to provide a decent gaming opportunity.

 

f*ck you twats that can't be bothered to play the game you bought. Thinkin you have the RIGHT to anything you want, is beyond deplorable. 'Oh I don't have the time to sit and grind for $ in a video game'. Priorities should dictate your attitude, but who can tell you anything you sociopathic wannabe know-it/have-it all mouth breather.

 

When R* can manage to identify and close those money exploits, because money dictates an 'economy' that was supposed to be the central theme, then we will see a game that gets turned around.

 

At this point, nothing major will happen to change things for the better until GTA VI.

 

Thanks a lot, assholes.

 

LBC

Edited February 4, 2015 by LBCWorldWide

[Tiny Rick]

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

[Nipper]

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

 

Didn't Domislive get his youtube account terminated, and because of that he can never hold another youtube account. (That's profitable, maybe, not sure on youtube ToS but I was told he had 2 accounts, his alt got banned and because of that, his main did too. Or his main got banned and because of that, his alt also. Not sure. Maybe he can have a channel that isn't "partnered" with youtube. From what I was told though he wouldn't be making any money from them anymore.)

[Tiny Rick]

 

 

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

Didn't Domislive get his youtube account terminated, and because of that he can never hold another youtube account. (That's profitable, maybe, not sure on youtube ToS but I was told he had 2 accounts, his alt got banned and because of that, his main did too. Or his main got banned and because of that, his alt also. Not sure. Maybe he can have a channel that isn't "partnered" with youtube. From what I was told though he wouldn't be making any money from them anymore.)

He got Terminated?! When? How? The f*ck? God has answered some prayers!

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

Didn't Domislive get his youtube account terminated, and because of that he can never hold another youtube account. (That's profitable, maybe, not sure on youtube ToS but I was told he had 2 accounts, his alt got banned and because of that, his main did too. Or his main got banned and because of that, his alt also. Not sure. Maybe he can have a channel that isn't "partnered" with youtube. From what I was told though he wouldn't be making any money from them anymore.)

He got Terminated?! When? How? The f*ck? God has answered some prayers!

 

 

It was a while back. He's been back to his usual rubbish for a while. He was hardly offline.

[mo-seph]

 

"They could not predict how people play" Sorry but that's bs. The GTA series has been out long enough to know exactly what people do in the game. Even when online first came out before V, it was the same thing. The majority of the community really hasn't changed its playstyle over the game generations.

 

You can't predict what people will do 100% of the time but there's plenty of history to support an accurate hypothesis.

 

 

historically though everything upto gta iv was offline, so there was only the option of PVE, PVP wasnt even a factor until SA-MP, then IV

[Nipper]

 

 

 

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

Didn't Domislive get his youtube account terminated, and because of that he can never hold another youtube account. (That's profitable, maybe, not sure on youtube ToS but I was told he had 2 accounts, his alt got banned and because of that, his main did too. Or his main got banned and because of that, his alt also. Not sure. Maybe he can have a channel that isn't "partnered" with youtube. From what I was told though he wouldn't be making any money from them anymore.)

He got Terminated?! When? How? The f*ck? God has answered some prayers!

 

 

It was a while back. He's been back to his usual rubbish for a while. He was hardly offline.

 

 

Aye I've been looking around, you're right.

 

Ignorance really was bliss though.

[1DrfL]

'I Want it That Way' by the Backstreet Boys is an awesome as well relevant addition to the soundtrack. Just sayin

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

 

 

That paragraph is what make the bitch Glitch YTubers a lot of money. Steal stuff from people. They are the cancer that is GTA community. mainly the bitch DomIsBS. Bitch I aint gonna like fo chop, chop deserves better.

Didn't Domislive get his youtube account terminated, and because of that he can never hold another youtube account. (That's profitable, maybe, not sure on youtube ToS but I was told he had 2 accounts, his alt got banned and because of that, his main did too. Or his main got banned and because of that, his alt also. Not sure. Maybe he can have a channel that isn't "partnered" with youtube. From what I was told though he wouldn't be making any money from them anymore.)

He got Terminated?! When? How? The f*ck? God has answered some prayers!

 

 

It was a while back. He's been back to his usual rubbish for a while. He was hardly offline.

 

 

Aye I've been looking around, you're right.

 

Ignorance really was bliss though.

 

 

He actually piggy backed some other bellend in order to post a video for his "disappointed fans" and to let them know he'd be crying twice daily until his Mum spoke to the bad men at youtube.

[*Lola]

GTA Online needs a "Friendly Free Roam" with many more activities such as mentioned in the above posts.

 

[Chloroform]

I think we all read too much into the trailer but than again support for gtao isn't over yet. So time will tell what's to come. But I think we pretty much got what they offered. It seemed more exciting from the trailer because that's what trailers are for. To hype us into wanting something even more.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Chloroform

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

I love how people always blame CoD. I've played most of the CoD games and never had a problem with the other players but in GTA it's a different story. About 75% of the player base in this game does nothing but bitch and cry about everything. It's easy to blame somebody else instead of looking in the mirror and realizing you are the problem.

 

The only thing i woud complain about at the moment are some bugs and freeroam being a bit empty(minor isues)

That being said many people that are sometimes moaning slightly about the moaners but themselves being satisfied with the game(im one of those),they woud not be suprised if almost all cod players arent the ones that only freeroam and care about their kd ratio while ignoring half of the game and kinda anoying other players because they kill everyone on sight to boost their KD and coudnt even NOT fail in succeeding a mission

Though its never been prooved for real this is in fact the case i woudnt be suprised

Edit: also its sugested most players are kids that shoud be better off when trolled out of gtao hardcore

They should charge for all future DLC and release more of it in a steady stream. They should also charge monthly subscription to reduce the amount of under 18s playing the game and again help pay for more DLC more often.

 

Well then im out to..im 22 but im not paying extra for this sh*t dude.. wtf

seriously this woudnt help anyone

Ever heard of the fact most parents are weaklings against their childeren and woud just buy everything for them ?

 

It would help the game immensely to have less young kids playing it. And if it means more DLC more often then I am fine with paying for it. I said subscription would reduce the the amount of underage players, any reduction would be good, there will always be terrible parents unfortunately.Yea but does that mean you think all people here that play on new gen consoles are old enough ?

For youre information...they already need a subscription for online gaming services

not to mention the fact that in all of the past cods i heard as much screaming kids when playing on a dlc map then when not.

hell to be honest...i myself was underaged during some of those

seriously its well intended but youre logic is flawed

The only thing that woud work is making a game from the ground up thats filled with real adult sh*t like graphic rape and hardcore torture, and everyone that wants to play the game be forced to give a credit card number and pay dlcs like that

[MayoChiki]

>Said rockstar promised casino

>I stopped reading

 

From what I read though rockstars vision seemed a lot larger then what we have but I suppose it's just like destiny, it was over hyped.

 

Good, because you didn't read properly...

 

I'll start by saying i LOVE this game. Its given me countless hours of endless fun and I've even made a few friends along the way.

 

That being said, its not perfect. I'm sure I could always find something to complain about, like Bad Sport or hackers.

 

OP...you can't blame ALL of this on players or hackers/modders...lets be honest here...Rockstar has released a product that is obviously easily modified or hacked & thats on them, no one else.

 

This isn't secure online banking, health or consumer information so of course I don't expect it to behave like that.

 

grow up

 

That's the most pathetic excuse I've seen. So just because we can take advantage of errors in the game we need to do it? That's an excuse for glitching. A grocery store near my house has the potato chips almost outside the place so you can steal a few and the camera won't notice it, but do I have to do it? It's really that neccesary? And in the same example if all the people who buy in there do the same the store will be closing in a few months, something similar happens to GTA Online.

 

 

 

"They could not predict how people play" Sorry but that's bs. The GTA series has been out long enough to know exactly what people do in the game. Even when online first came out before V, it was the same thing. The majority of the community really hasn't changed its playstyle over the game generations.

 

You can't predict what people will do 100% of the time but there's plenty of history to support an accurate hypothesis.

 

 

historically though everything upto gta iv was offline, so there was only the option of PVE, PVP wasnt even a factor until SA-MP, then IV

 

 

True that. GTA IV had separate rooms for people wanting PvP and people wanting PvE. I used to jump with some friend in sessions without PvP and we met a couple of friends in there, and we played only for one month. In almost a year and half of GTA Online I haven't met a single friendly person.

 

I think we all read too much into the trailer but than again support for gtao isn't over yet. So time will tell what's to come. But I think we pretty much got what they offered. It seemed more exciting from the trailer because that's what trailers are for. To hype us into wanting something even more.

 

Call me crazy but in my times when I saw a trailer it was pretty much gameplay and not modified cutscenes to make it look like the game is supposed to be. The thing here is that the game has no problems to me, I'm ok with the current content, the problem is the community and how it affects the game.

 

 

"This is why we can't have nice things": do we all agree on this, right?

 

No. It is purely down to the way Rockstar as a business is run. The fact that all these glitches can be exploited at all is down to terrible development (not programming), which includes the whole application design from top down. This is the responsibility of individual project managers who are most likely employed as cheap as possible and are therefore inexperienced. If this game was torn down and rebuilt by an experienced development team you would not see these issues.

 

They're lucky that there's so much good about the game, or they'd all be screwed.

 

 

Well.. the title was a "so to speak" kind of thing, would be pointless to say that we all agree and ask for discussion. Glitching is only a problem, but what are you saying? That just because the game can be exploited is has to be exploited? Doesn't seem like a valid reason.

[slowburn29]

No lobby options forces players into combat out of boredom and lack of things for tiny minds to do in free roam. When I'm on the bmx that alone doesn't convince people to grab a bike and try some wall rides. But when they come shooting at me I'm convinced to shoot back. The game is made to encourage PvP, to drain our banks and keep us playing to keep from going broke. I wont go into detail on my opinions on free roam warriors but in short I feel they are generally angry little outcasts who lack imagination. And they are the ones who are catered to. Invite only since December 2013