Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) (Watch ending) This proves that no car can exceed 200mph and game stats are a LIE. Top speed is capped for both SP and Online. Massacro is as fast as the Zentorno. Edited February 1, 2015 by Fearx-- hercules1975, MajorVienna and Dirty Hairy 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningLord Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) GTA logic at its finest. Edited February 1, 2015 by LightningLord411 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Haruna Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 That time difference is minuscule enough to conclude that human error was responsible for the small difference. I'm pretty sure that both vehicles have the same top speed. Furry_Monkey, ENZ0 and RandallFlagg00 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJasonGallant Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Pretty dumb. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Mafia Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 ROCKSTAR LIED TO US! i watched it, i agree on the jester vs. massacro, sultan and super diamond. but i'm sure the Z type isn't the fastest. TheNarrative 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 ROCKSTAR LIED TO US! i watched it, i agree on the jester vs. massacro, sultan and super diamond. but i'm sure the Z type isn't the fastest. They are probably as fast as each other. The Massacro (RC) is as fast as the Zentorno as well. We learn something new everyday. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So where are all the Z-Type haters now?????? Great Video as always Broughy, thanks for sharing OP. That handling file as been around since launch but people still quote those meaningless website stats and bar graphs Hail the Fastest car in the Game! ash-274, Arrows to Athens, phattoni and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066907953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRockstarFanboy Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Is there a spreadsheet that includes motorcycles? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedell Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Is there a spreadsheet that includes motorcycles?Same document, different sheet linked at the top. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0An9rbDOns6DhdFNlYzBPLXFjeEVDY0FDUTNvcTNCVFE&f=true&noheader=false&gid=5 Edited February 1, 2015 by Weedell LoyalRockstarFanboy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecomrade9 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Does anyone else see how wrong this is? Not Rockstar, but the video maker. He completely mistimed the clips. Look, they aren't at equal times. The adder finished a full second before the Z-Type finished. Adder - 1:49.84 Z-Type - 1:50.94 The Adder is still the fastest car. Not the Z-Type. PS: he mistimed the last few clips in his video, not just the Adder and Z-Type. Edited February 1, 2015 by Thecomrade9 The Byzantine Empire and Gatti Sosa 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagrawa Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 ROCKSTAR LIED TO US! i watched it, i agree on the jester vs. massacro, sultan and super diamond. but i'm sure the Z type isn't the fastest. That time difference is minuscule enough to conclude that human error was responsible for the small difference. I'm pretty sure that both vehicles have the same top speed. ROCKSTAR LIED TO US! i watched it, i agree on the jester vs. massacro, sultan and super diamond. but i'm sure the Z type isn't the fastest. I did extensive testing on this over a year ago on a long test track I made (same road Broughy used, just over a mile longer) and the Z-type had the second fastest time after the Adder, both far ahead of every other car in the game. The difference between the 2 was obviously due to the far superior acceleration of the Adder. I couldn't make video's of it, so couldn't determine which of the two actually had the highest top speed....but Broughy did, and has shown everyone the evidence now. And the evidence doesn't lie! Arrows to Athens and Neuling2000 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTroubleMaker Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Does anyone else see how wrong this is? Not Rockstar, but the video maker. He completely mistimed the clips. You are forgetting he mentions that the first few gates are used / ignored because of acceleration. Only the last few gates are used for top speed calculations. The time will be different. Edited February 1, 2015 by MrTroubleMaker DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Does anyone else see how wrong this is? Not Rockstar, but the video maker. He completely mistimed the clips. Look, they aren't at equal times. The adder finished a full second before the Z-Type finished. Adder - 1:49.84 Z-Type - 1:50.94 The Adder is still the fastest car. Not the Z-Type. PS: he mistimed the last few clips in his video, not just the Adder and Z-Type. Commenter: The times weren't synced for the Adder vs. Z-Type race... Uploader: The times weren't synced for any race. As I said the only syncing I did was to make sure the 4th checkpoint was hit at the same time. The adder has better acceleration so hit the 4th checkpoint earlier than the Z-type. But we're only interested in top speed here. Even if the Z-Type did have a head start and the Adder has a better top speed then the Adder would have overtaken the Z-Type. But they were head to head dude and the Adder was hesitating to pass. The proof doesn't lie mate. Edited February 1, 2015 by Fearx-- DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 PETITION FOR R* TO REPLACE THE VOLTIC WITH THE Z-Type IN THE SUPERS CATEGORY! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecomrade9 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Does anyone else see how wrong this is? Not Rockstar, but the video maker. He completely mistimed the clips. Look, they aren't at equal times. The adder finished a full second before the Z-Type finished. Adder - 1:49.84 Z-Type - 1:50.94 The Adder is still the fastest car. Not the Z-Type. PS: he mistimed the last few clips in his video, not just the Adder and Z-Type. Commenter: he times weren't synced for the Adder vs. Z-Type race... Uploader: The times weren't synced for any race. As I said the only syncing I did was to make sure the 4th checkpoint was hit at the same time. The adder has better acceleration so hit the 4th checkpoint earlier than the Z-type. But we're only interested in top speed here. The Adder finished before the Z-Type. That automatically = higher speed. Finished earlier = faster. No ifs or buts. Everything else is impossible. He makes zero sense in that regard. Does anyone else see how wrong this is? Not Rockstar, but the video maker. He completely mistimed the clips. You are forgetting he mentions that the first few gates are used / ignored because of acceleration. Only the last few gates are used for top speed calculations. The time will be different. Read my previous comment. That's wrong. Biggie Kaniff 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. Edited February 1, 2015 by Fearx-- Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercules1975 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Wow, the Massacro is faster than the Jester (race-car versions) and has the same top speed as the Zentorno - and is cheaper. Dammitt, gonna have have to sell the Jester and buy the Massacro again Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecomrade9 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. I've tested it by myself as well. Both cars have the same top speed. There was fixed gap (2-3 car lengths) but that's because the Adder has better acceleration. Acceleration isn't the same thing as top speed if you don't already know. I doubt you have done anything to see which is faster so you can't really make a judgement already. Even sagrawa has tested it as well. You haven't provided any evidence for your claim that the Adder is still the fastest. Edited February 1, 2015 by Fearx-- Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 it's a top speed test not an acceleration test doughnuts SmellyNeko, jyssys, Arrows to Athens and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagrawa Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Are you really that thick? This isn't about which car does the track fastest, it's about determining which car has the highest top speed. JustinR512 and Weedell 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Why he didn't do that. Because the Adder has superior acceleration so the Adder will be ahead regardless. But I think both are as fast as each other so if the Adder took of quicker then it will stay ahead and the distance between the Z-Type and the Adder will remain the same because both are as fast as each other. The Z-Type wouldn't be able to outrun the Adder most likely because its as fast as the Adder. But you do have a point there. If the Z-Type was a few milliseconds faster than the Adder then it would of caught up slowly as the Adder has better acceleration. BUT that would take a really long f*cking time and the highway would end by that time maybe. In the video both cars were head to head and no car overtook so that's PROOF that both cars are fast as each other. Case closed. Edited February 1, 2015 by Fearx-- Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZANTHERA Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was only talking about the top speed in this video not the overall performace, ofcourse the adder would finish first as it has a better acceleration, he synced the videos so they both hit the 4th checkpoint at the same time. The Adder reached its top speed quicker than the Z-Type but the Z-Type overtook the Adder due to its higher top speed. I don't understand how no one can get that. Arrows to Athens, DarkSavageDeathlyCloud, SmellyNeko and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Are you really that thick? This isn't about which car does the track fastest, it's about determining which car has the highest top speed. wait what??!!! in a controlled race, im really sure that if i have the highest top speed ill finish the track quicker, hence me being the fastest car! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRockstarFanboy Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 NAME DRAG DRIVE FORCE MAX SPEED STEERING LOCK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AKUMA 10 0.4 145 42 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BAGGER 9 0.21 130 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BATI 8 0.3 150 45 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DAEMON 9 0.26 135 40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DOUBLE T 9 0.31 147 40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HAKUCHOU 8.5 0.315 152 24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HEXER 9 0.26 135 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ INNOVATION 9.5 0.32 135 37 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEMESIS 10 0.3 140 38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PCJ 11 0.26 130 42 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RUFFIAN 10.5 0.34 140 40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SANCHEZ 12.3 0.28 118 36 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THRUST 6.58 0.265 152 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ VADER 10 0.27 140 40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Heres a spreadsheet i made using all the relevant(to me) info. A higher steering lock means a bike has better handling. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Skorpio Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Are you really that thick? This isn't about which car does the track fastest, it's about determining which car has the highest top speed. wait what??!!! in a controlled race, im really sure that if i have the highest top speed ill finish the track quicker, hence me being the fastest car! *sigh* Jesus Christ, do you people really not understand acceleration vs top speed? Furry_Monkey and Sagrawa 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd7775 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) pretty interesting stuff in that video. thanks for the share. Edit: Also to the people not understanding this video let me try to give an example. Just because you have a car that can go 500mph does not mean you will win every race. Acceleration plays huge factors as well as the distance of the race. For example if the race is a quarter of a mile the car with the best acceleration will win not the car with the best top speed. Back to the 500mph top speed car as the example. It can take that car 3 miles to finally get up to that top speed. Once there and the race is a straight away and another mile longer it will more than likely win the race but if it was a quarter of a mile the car with a top speed of hundred but gets to that speed in a tenth of a mile it will more than likely win the race because of it's acceleration. So really it all comes down to having the right vehicle for the job so to speak. This is what the video is demonstrating. Edited February 1, 2015 by bigd7775 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jembo Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Are you really that thick? This isn't about which car does the track fastest, it's about determining which car has the highest top speed.wait what??!!! in a controlled race, im really sure that if i have the highest top speed ill finish the track quicker, hence me being the fastest car! No. That's not how it works. If car 1 has a higher top speed than car 2, but car 2 gets to its top speed much faster than car 1, there's no guarantee car 1 would win. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Adder has better acceleration where as the Z-Type doesn't. Both cars were travelling at the same time as you could see in the video. Both cars were head to head meaning both cars have the exact same top speed or the other is faster by a millisecond. If the Adder was faster then it would be ahead of the Z-Type in which it clearly wasn't. The Adder finished the full, exact same race with the exact same checkpoints at a quicker time. It is faster. Period. Are you telling me he can just start recording at a random spot in the race and judge from there? You take it all in account, and the Adder won with a whole second faster time. Again, the same exact race quicker. No tricks played manipulating the time at the same checkpoint (why ever he would even do that). The Adder did the full race quicker, and that's you need for the proper answer. The Adder was faster. If he really wanted to prove himself, he'd do a full race without manipulating any times or starting at any checkpoints to try and disregard acceleration, and just make the ending checkpoint longer ahead so we can see which top speed is truly faster. Why he didn't do that? Surprise surprise. Are you really that thick? This isn't about which car does the track fastest, it's about determining which car has the highest top speed. wait what??!!! in a controlled race, im really sure that if i have the highest top speed ill finish the track quicker, hence me being the fastest car! No. That's not how it works. If car 1 has a higher top speed than car 2, but car 2 gets to its top speed much faster than car 1, there's no guarantee car 1 would win. It depends on how long the straight road is. If the straight is long enough then car 1 should have enough time to reach top speed and overtake car 2. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1997jones Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Is there a spreadsheet that includes motorcycles? I own a balti 801rr, thrust and another bike. I could do this myself. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/765004-top-speed-exposed-z-type-fastest-car/#findComment-1066908460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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