I'm starting to think being anywhere near "good" is a curs

[fda92]

I don't know if it has anything to do with the "TrueSkill" function or whatever, but I think it's safe to assume it is.

 

I'll be blunt: I'm starting to hate playing in everything that is not FreeMode or Co-Op. The reason it's I'm coming to the realization that in this game you'll just get MORE frustrated the better you play. Seems strange, right? Let's try to elaborate on this point:

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

 

I play DM a lot. Now, in almost EVERY DM I get in, if I'm not entangled in some trap deathmatches and other stuff like that, if there's an odd number of players I get in the smaller group. ALWAYS. No exception.

In one particularly interesting match up... I got in a two-man team in a 2 on 4. And it's usually a lower leveled guy. Or, if they are in the 100ish/ 150ish they have something like 0.3 or 0.4 K/D ratio.

 

Then I start the DM and I usually do good - unless I encounter some monster players, that is, obviously there are people who are much better than me.

 

During the game I glance at the stats screen and I'm usually on the top of the chart, with usually 5 or more kills than the guy on the other team.

Then I look at my team and they're almost always doing horribly, dragging the team down. I stress that they're just not playing worse than me, they're literally playing so bad that enemy players build kills just by going after them. So, in the end, not only they do not bring any kills or barely a couple of kills to our team score, they are killed repeatedly and of course they nullify the advantage I try so carefully build by being Rambo and taking on 2 or 3 enemies at a time. And in the end I still - usually barely - lose.

Now, I know that it's statistical to get into these kind of match-ups, but they are becoming frequent. At an alarming rate. I'm starting to think I will take the coward way out and build a new character from level 1 and take advantage of that by sandbagging. But I don't think it would really "fair" to other players, on the other hand.

I've gotta ask 'cause - besides getting frustrated, as ending the game being the best player and in the losing team - I find it odd. And maybe because hearing some experiences could ease my butthurt (yup, I admit it).

Moreover, I'd like to hear if there are strong crews of players around here. I'd really like some support.

Thanks and peace y'all.

Edited January 29, 2015 by fda92

[RandallFlagg00]

I usually prefer to be on the smaller team. You're less likely to have an idiot on your team not taking cover, charging at the other team and constantly getting killed. There are more targets on the other team. But that's only when you're paired with a good player.

 

I've stopped even attempting to do death matches for the last few months. On Xbox 360, I filtered out the user made content. But since getting a ps4, it's not worth the effort. I usually have to join through QuickStart on the phone. 3 or 4 times I'll get placed in a trap mission, quit, try again... Including time spent in the clouds it'll take 30 mins to get in a real deathmatch. And then it'll be 3 vs 2, and locked to combat pistol. And THEN I'll get "unknown connection error".

 

I miss death matches. But I'm not even going to try again until they either fix the connection problems, or make a way to filter out the $$999999RPRPRPR$$$ sh*t that we all know and love. I'm butthurt too OP.

[nikkor801]

you are going to love this story.

 

im a level 301 with a k/d of 1.47 very honestly earned. i don't ever get in tanks and just rack up my kills.

 

i hop on my level 33 character night before last. hop into a death match. 7 players. match starts up.

 

get this

 

owned and pickups

 

10 minutes

 

level 33 me

level 50 something random

(on call) that drops out as match is loading up

 

vs

 

level 403 that created the match

level 460

level level 180

level 3 hundred something

 

10 minute death match. i get some kills with the marksman rifle and reg sniper. at some point near the end i finally find the rpg before getting spawn killed by 3 players repeatedly. get a few good kills in with that. also used my special carbine for kills. whatever. 3 of them where in a crew together. one i was able to kill several times.

 

the match ends and one guy calls me a puss!

 

i said just the fact that i stayed in the match makes me not a puss. i actually got kills on you guys! then the one reasonable fellow stood up for me and told him to shut basically.

 

idiots.

 

i love this game and i meet really great people every day but i will never get used to how it has the highest percentage of idiot losers playing it. guess its kinda like real life.

 

op - do you have a crew? another good gun would be awesome!

 

ps4 - nikkor801

[StangOne50]

I dont get why people even play death matches when freemode is a huge open battle field. Why limit yourselves. I just dont get the point especially when as you guys say they are as f*cked up as they are.

[ugotsmoked]

I dont get why people even play death matches when freemode is a huge open battle field. Why limit yourselves. I just dont get the point especially when as you guys say they are as f*cked up as they are.

This is why I quit doing them.

[Sussus Amongus]

Op you have PSN? We should team up. I have the exact same stuff going on for me. I think if there are 2 above average players and a few idiots than we should win no problem. It mostly puts us together with the noobs because it's fair matchmaking. Just thought you should know. It gets difficult having to carry a team alone.

 

 

I had to go mowing down like 6 portugese pricks alone in a TDM wihle our idiot teammates rushed in and got killed every time. Lost the match by 2 kills. But hey, I am only but one man. Those guys were reall good. They already mastered the art of headshot lockon too.

Edited January 30, 2015 by Cake* Games

[RandallFlagg00]

I dont get why people even play death matches when freemode is a huge open battle field. Why limit yourselves. I just dont get the point especially when as you guys say they are as f*cked up as they are.

No cops is a huge factor for me. Uninterrupted fighting is impossible in free roam. You earn money and RP rather than losing thousands in free roam. you don't see blips until somebody starts shooting or running. That keeps you on your toes rather than knowing exactly where everybody is at all times. It's the only mode where stealth matters in any way.

[PondNewt]

I play a lot of deathmatches and I often get frustrated with many of the issues that are being brought up in this thread. My K/D ratio is about 1.27 so I'm kind of an average skilled player, decent maybe but nothing too good by any means. The majority of the time I usually end up with more kills than deaths or at least I have done over the course of the last eight months or so as it took me a few months after initially creating my character to get the hang of player vs player combat as this is my first game online. Of course there are occasions when I get my ass kicked by skilled players as I'm sure happens to us all plus certain maps that I try to avoid as I always do badly on them such as Maze. Anyway like the thread starter I often find the matchmaking is crazy and very unfair. I'll almost always be put on the weaker team with the inferior numbers and I'll often be going up against high level players with a low level player as my teammate and they (my teammates) generally don't do very well. I'm level 104 myself so kind of in the middle. Anyway even though I usually finish in the positive at the end of the match and thus contribute positively to the team I loose far more team deathmatches than I win just because my team mates often aren't very good. There are occasions of course where it goes the other way and I let the team down but not very often. These days if I personally end up with more kills than deaths then I class it as a victory regardless of whether the team itself wins or looses.

 

Another thing I hate as RandallFlagg00 mentioned is all of the user made deathmatches that are usually always locked on unarmed or jerrycans as weapons. I get put into these lobbies so much when using the deathmatch quick job option from the phone. Another thing is that I personally much prefer matches set to owned and pickups. After all we spent so much time ranking up and unlocking good guns why on earth wouldn't we want to use them in one of the modes of play where they would be the most useful? I can understand it being forced and pickups if the host is a really low rank (though with downloadable content weapons maybe not) but I see many high level hosts doing it to. Drives me crazy. Anyway with all the user made content clogging up the system and the amount of forced and pickups lobbies I have to exit the amount of time I spend trying to get into a decent deathmatch is ridiculous.

 

One or two people have mentioned that they prefer free mode battles against other players as opposed to deathmatches. This isn't really for me though as I find people often get in their vehicles causing me to give chase (or they chase me) and my biggest weakness on the game is shooting from a vehicle so I can't defend myself too well in this mode. Plus I'm not in a crew so people tend to gang up on me if I try to battle in freemode. I also don't like the way the radar looks in freemode compared to deathmatches so I tend to just keep to myself and avoid fighting.

Edited January 30, 2015 by PondNewt

[Con9mm]

I cant even enter DMs with my 300 rank guy because the game must think I created it or something.

My 2nd character doesn't do much better at rank 147, but at least it seems like he gets on more fair teams.

 

Its funny, whenever I see a high K/D guy (1.9 or higher) end up on my team, I already know he is going to suck at live killing. The rank and K/D ratios are so unpredictable, one thing I can predict is that im expected to carry the team and I usually have to. Which is fine, if I didn't have to fight off the kills streak flashing screens and map exposure, and since I don't camp, I call Lester to reveal or its walk into cheap kill after kill.

 

So OP, you aren't alone. I also feel like the game punishes you for being decent at the DM killing.

[ktek01]

I gave up worrying about W/L a long time ago, I try for MVP and highest K/D in the match win or lose. When my team is half decent or at least not getting killed constantly we usually win. I find it a challenge, but a lot of fun. You could join a TDM crew and do much better, but an organised crew beating up on a bunch randoms is hardly challenging IMO.

[thebrianmo]

 

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

Your K/D is crap! Mine is 3.85 and I'm a level 56 on my new account. My original account is level 236 with 4.85 K/D You're an average player at best, not above.

[RandallFlagg00]

 

 

 

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

Your K/D is crap! Mine is 3.85 and I'm a level 56 on my new account. My original account is level 236 with 4.85 K/D You're an average player at best, not above.

Full of crap. You openly talk about how you used God mode, wall glitches, apt glitches, garage glitches. You cheat like a bitch and mention your KDR in every other post.

[Toasted-Cheese]

 

 

 

 

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

Your K/D is crap! Mine is 3.85 and I'm a level 56 on my new account. My original account is level 236 with 4.85 K/D You're an average player at best, not above.

Full of crap. You openly talk about how you used God mode, wall glitches, apt glitches, garage glitches. You cheat like a bitch and mention your KDR in every other post.Very true he always brags about god mode or picking on lower level players an such , plus a k/d does not matter in a game like this an does not determine any kind of skill as the person could have used jets , tanks or other means to boost it , but if its bragging you want mine is 6.24 , im level 437 an yes its all legit

[DrunkGamer]

I play a lot of deathmatches and I often get frustrated with many of the issues that are being brought up in this thread. My K/D ratio is about 1.27 so I'm kind of an average skilled player, decent maybe but nothing too good by any means. The majority of the time I usually end up with more kills than deaths or at least I have done over the course of the last eight months or so as it took me a few months after initially creating my character to get the hang of player vs player combat as this is my first game online. Of course there are occasions when I get my ass kicked by skilled players as I'm sure happens to us all plus certain maps that I try to avoid as I always do badly on them such as Maze. Anyway like the thread starter I often find the matchmaking is crazy and very unfair. I'll almost always be put on the weaker team with the inferior numbers and I'll often be going up against high level players with a low level player as my teammate and they (my teammates) generally don't do very well. I'm level 104 myself so kind of in the middle. Anyway even though I usually finish in the positive at the end of the match and thus contribute positively to the team I loose far more team deathmatches than I win just because my team mates often aren't very good. There are occasions of course where it goes the other way and I let the team down but not very often. These days if I personally end up with more kills than deaths then I class it as a victory regardless of whether the team itself wins or looses.

 

Another thing I hate as RandallFlagg00 mentioned is all of the user made deathmatches that are usually always locked on unarmed or jerrycans as weapons. I get put into these lobbies so much when using the deathmatch quick job option from the phone. Another thing is that I personally much prefer matches set to owned and pickups. After all we spent so much time ranking up and unlocking good guns why on earth wouldn't we want to use them in one of the modes of play where they would be the most useful? I can understand it being forced and pickups if the host is a really low rank (though with downloadable content weapons maybe not) but I see many high level hosts doing it to. Drives me crazy. Anyway with all the user made content clogging up the system and the amount of forced and pickups lobbies I have to exit the amount of time I spend trying to get into a decent deathmatch is ridiculous.

 

One or two people have mentioned that they prefer free mode battles against other players as opposed to deathmatches. This isn't really for me though as I find people often get in their vehicles causing me to give chase (or they chase me) and my biggest weakness on the game is shooting from a vehicle so I can't defend myself too well in this mode. Plus I'm not in a crew so people tend to gang up on me if I try to battle in freemode. I also don't like the way the radar looks in freemode compared to deathmatches so I tend to just keep to myself and avoid fighting.

 

meh I don't play DMs in this game because so many other games do it better ( I.E battlefield, halo, and yes even cod) also the bs 99999999999$ DMs that are just spewed out the asses by some morons, I just stick to the free for all battlefield that is free roam but besides that I also do contact missions.

[WWEMichaelB]

 

 

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

Your K/D is crap! Mine is 3.85 and I'm a level 56 on my new account. My original account is level 236 with 4.85 K/D You're an average player at best, not above.

 

K/D really means nothing in this game as so many have cheated using God mode to get their K/D up. It's really just a pointless venture by Rockstar. Also by bragging about your K/D so often, I'm wondering if you're insecure and need acceptance. Are you hiding in the closet?

[REDDICE]

W/L Ratio with a high number of matches played is more important than rank and K/D. A level 120 guy with 1.5 K/D but 3.0 W/L (450 total matches) is probably better than a level 375 with 3.7 K/D 10.0 W/L (20 matches).

[H8GodMode]

Yes rockstar matchmaking does this to me too. They love to handicap the overdog.

It happened to me 2x on the same map yesterday

My team - me and 3 players under rank 10

Opposing team- 3 players over rank 100

 

Both games I racked up 50+ kills and was shooting 5.0+ KD ratios. But I couldn't keep the score up I was always losing. I even go as far as sending my team mates messages like "stop running up and dying or we'll lose" and they just keep going like they might actually get a kill lol. I think the second game in referring to my teammates had 5 kills combined but the scores were 60+

 

Now aside from that don't get me ranting about double damage, and loser perks.

[JokerSmokerToker]

I don't know if it has anything to do with the "TrueSkill" function or whatever, but I think it's safe to assume it is.

 

I'll be blunt: I'm starting to hate playing in everything that is not FreeMode or Co-Op. The reason it's I'm coming to the realization that in this game you'll just get MORE frustrated the better you play. Seems strange, right? Let's try to elaborate on this point:

right now I'm level 180, and have a K/D ratio of 1.6. Let's say somewhat above average, going by the assumption that 1:1 is what's to be expected from an "average player".

 

I play DM a lot. Now, in almost EVERY DM I get in, if I'm not entangled in some trap deathmatches and other stuff like that, if there's an odd number of players I get in the smaller group. ALWAYS. No exception.

In one particularly interesting match up... I got in a two-man team in a 2 on 4. And it's usually a lower leveled guy. Or, if they are in the 100ish/ 150ish they have something like 0.3 or 0.4 K/D ratio.

 

Then I start the DM and I usually do good - unless I encounter some monster players, that is, obviously there are people who are much better than me.

 

During the game I glance at the stats screen and I'm usually on the top of the chart, with usually 5 or more kills than the guy on the other team.

Then I look at my team and they're almost always doing horribly, dragging the team down. I stress that they're just not playing worse than me, they're literally playing so bad that enemy players build kills just by going after them. So, in the end, not only they do not bring any kills or barely a couple of kills to our team score, they are killed repeatedly and of course they nullify the advantage I try so carefully build by being Rambo and taking on 2 or 3 enemies at a time. And in the end I still - usually barely - lose.

Now, I know that it's statistical to get into these kind of match-ups, but they are becoming frequent. At an alarming rate. I'm starting to think I will take the coward way out and build a new character from level 1 and take advantage of that by sandbagging. But I don't think it would really "fair" to other players, on the other hand.

I've gotta ask 'cause - besides getting frustrated, as ending the game being the best player and in the losing team - I find it odd. And maybe because hearing some experiences could ease my butthurt (yup, I admit it).

Moreover, I'd like to hear if there are strong crews of players around here. I'd really like some support.

Thanks and peace y'all.

TL;DR

 

i will say this once only and will probably never come back to this thread:

 

join a decent crew full of mature, grown up gamers to do your DMs with, you wont get trapped/buttraped every single time, and for the love of god, stop joining DMs advertising 9999999999$ and 9999999999RP, its obviously a f*cking trap.