Still think ENB is overbright and shiny?

[îlîlîlîlîlî]

 

 

And this is just a beta.. Look at that lighting..

Edited January 26, 2015 by cldd

[Error2k]

Ugly models + good shaders = ugly looking crap

[îlîlîlîlîlî]

Ugly models + good shaders = ugly looking crap

FFS, the game was made in 2008, look past that you casual.

[Barrett_killz]

Looks great at night.

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

Why is this in the GTA V PC section?

[Loves GTA]

Not sure why this is in GTAV PC, but yeah, I like this better than what I'm using currently. Using iCE 3.0 currently on 1.0.7.0 Steam version and while it looks amazing during the day, it doesn't look that impressive to me at night. Plus, there's an annoying red sky bug and invisible sirens on cop cars/ambulances, etc. that a patch supposedly fixes but it actually doesn't. Hopefully those won't be issues here.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Loves GTA

[Kampret]

And your point is....? It still takes away the authentic, gritty feeling of GTA IV. Hell it ruined the f*cking atmosphere of the game. And why is this in V PC section?

[îlîlîlîlîlî]

And your point is....? It still takes away the authentic, gritty feeling of GTA IV. Hell it ruined the f*cking atmosphere of the game. And why is this in V PC section?

The point is this is what we can expect, if not better, for GTAV PC. What will you say then? That it took away from bright and sunny V? And it's in the PC section because I put it here.

[DEERxBanshee]

That looks a lot better than what i'm using now. Not as bright and more natural looking

[Andreas]

To me, it doesn't matter if the shaders are extremely good-looking if the overall atmosphere is ruined by them, as is the case with ENB most of the time. Yeah, it looks nice but there are always things that ruin the immersion, at least in my opinion. The best ENBs are the ones that add to the atmosphere of the original game, and not try to change it. Unfortunately, I haven't really seen any settings that I would call perfect, but the ones that are at least fairly close to perfection are quite a rarity.

 

I have to say that the settings used in the video are pretty good, though. They blow 99% of the ENBs I have seen out of water. Still, it definitely needs some work.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Andreas

[bensons]

Never really needed to use an ENB, I only go as far as setting the weather to sunny for most of the time.

[Xerukal]

Looks nice, but at the cost of the game's intended gritty vibe and feel. Something I personally don't feel is worth the trade off.

 

I have a feeling this won't be as much of a problem with V, though. Still, based on what I've seen, I think most ENBs will harm all the delicate colors and artistic techniques that are used to make V look as special as it does.

 

Maybe it's because we're so early into the year, or next gen of consoles, but I can't see GTA V absolutely "needing" ENB anytime soon. I think we're sort of past that point, because the game is so much more visually flexible than GTA IV.

 

Either way, I'd sooner run a game in 4k to see if it helps its fidelity, rather than go looking for ENBs as soon as it looks dated. That's just me though.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Xerukal

[Tanto]

 

 

And this is just a beta.. Look at that lighting..

 

That looks great, what EnB are you using if any ?

 

Not sure why this is in GTAV PC, but yeah, I like this better than what I'm using currently. Using iCE 3.0 currently on 1.0.7.0 Steam version and while it looks amazing during the day, it doesn't look that impressive to me at night. Plus, there an annoying red sky bug and invisible sirens on cop cars/ambulances, etc. that a patch supposedly fixes but it actually doesn't. Hopefully those won't be issues here.

 

I had the same problem but you can fix that red sky bug with This.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Tanto

[eastriver]

I personally never enjoyed the graphic mods for GTA IV.

All it is really is getting that gritty looking tint off the game and adding a sh*t ton of reflections to the cars.

 

On top of that, in my personal experience, they always had one or two graphic glitches that got on my mind... so I always found myself reverting back to vanilla IV.

What's worse is, since this game is not well optimized and the FPS can be low as 30 and higher as 100 depending on the mood of the game, I was never able to tell if it was the mods f*cking with my performance or if the game was just being moody

[Lordani66]

PC: Reviving dead horses since 2005 (AKA the year pc gaming started going downhill due to consoles superiority (ps. says a guy with a high end computer (Im a IT student) and no consoles ATM (unfortunately))).

[Dock]

I see a lot of you complaining about how most ENBs in IV removed the grittiness from the game. Which is true, no denying that.

 

But ENBs for V are in my opinion going to ADD to the immersion, because unlike grey LC we're in sunny LS. I gladly welcome our ENB overlords, heheh. Also OP posted this because a few people were saying that ENBs in IV rendered the game unplayable for the most part, and that it was mostly for eye candy and screenshots.

 

That being said, ENB settings for IV are pretty amazing when done right, and I would love to see a gritty one like Andreas suggested.

[R.F.]

Ok, I never said anything about enb or any other graphics mod. Here's my 2 cents on these mod/s:

They aren't developed by a professional group of computer engineers and talented designers / artists that now when to stop with a certain effect, color, blur, etc.

There will be always a "competition" with the original graphics for these mods devs so they will tend to exaggerate with the effects for the shock value making

the game look unrealistic.

Just look how beautiful GTAV looks. I bet tens of talented people adjusted those graphics to perfection before they released the game, it was a team call not a single

guy deciding what looks good and what doesn't.

My final thoughts are, these mods look cheap, plastic-y, unnatural, exaggerated and take A LOT of your hardware because they are not by any means optimized.

I prefer my game's graphics in original because it looks fantastic and subtle at the same time. (Texture mods apply to everything I said about the graphic mods)

I like however other mods like: real cars, car handling, new maps, etc.

p.s. No disrespect for the mods devs, I bet they are talented people that know coding and whatnot but let's not forget they are not industry leaders. So a mod created by

a guy on his PC can't be better than years of experience and hundreds of professional game developers.

IMO

[..GhosT]

And im sitting here wondering how the hell he managed to get so many FPS in this poorly optimized game even with graphic mods.

[K.Walters]

If only I had a PC to run these ENB mods with 4k textures on 1080p with 120FPS

 

I only used ENB for skyrim so far and all my GTX770 2Gb could muster was 30-45 FPS

[RyanBurnsRed]

And your point is....? It still takes away the authentic, gritty feeling of GTA IV. Hell it ruined the f*cking atmosphere of the game. And why is this in V PC section?

 

Then don't install it.

 

Personally I think it's a good improvement over the past iCE versions. It looks like a game released in the past year and doesn't hurt my eyes with the bloom and high contrast.

[ienvy]

I watched that video and felt it was somehow a downgrade. What looks "good" in this case is subjective.

[DaRkL3AD3R]

IV vanilla has such horrible shading and lighting it's like eye-bleeding ugly lol

 

I don't like ENB, and probably won't use it in V because unlike IV, V actually has really good shading, but I will likely look into texture mods because there are still lots of areas on PS4 where the textures are garbage last gen bad.

[îlîlîlîlîlî]

IV vanilla has such horrible shading and lighting it's like eye-bleeding ugly lol

 

I don't like ENB, and probably won't use it in V because unlike IV, V actually has really good shading, but I will likely look into texture mods because there are still lots of areas on PS4 where the textures are garbage last gen bad.

Thing about texture mods is if they aren't done right, they can look bad with different timecycle's and weathers, as the case with some IV mods. So let's hope that we have talented texture artists this time around.

Edited January 26, 2015 by cldd

[Vulgadrop]

One thing are promotional videos&screenshots and totally different thing is reality:

-red sky bug
-broken shadows at night
-broken fog effect
-overbright sky
-overbloom
-half performance
-...to be continued...

[Inspirer]

To me, it doesn't matter if the shaders are extremely good-looking if the overall atmosphere is ruined by them, as is the case with ENB most of the time. Yeah, it looks nice but there are always things that ruin the immersion, at least in my opinion. The best ENBs are the ones that add to the atmosphere of the original game, and not try to change it.

I agree. There is only one exception - Skyrim. Just a couple of my screenshots for an example:

 

Sunrise

 

Day

 

Sunset

 

Night

 

Like you see, the game looks great at any time. This is an example of good ENB.

 

Sorry for small offtop.

[BS_BlackScout]

Looks great, way better than the 3.0.

Well, still needs some work, I guess it still can look more realistic.

Better than most ENB's out there...

[Apopololo]

 

To me, it doesn't matter if the shaders are extremely good-looking if the overall atmosphere is ruined by them, as is the case with ENB most of the time. Yeah, it looks nice but there are always things that ruin the immersion, at least in my opinion. The best ENBs are the ones that add to the atmosphere of the original game, and not try to change it.

I agree. There is only one exception - Skyrim. Just a couple of my screenshots for an example:

 

Sunrise

 

Day

 

Sunset

 

Night

 

Like you see, the game looks great at any time. This is an example of good ENB.

 

Sorry for small offtop.

For me the colors doesn't feel right, i really don't like ENB because most of the time it's change the atmosphere of the game, well on skyrim i use FXAA Injector and Climates of Tamriel with my custom present just to give a little bit of color, but it's nice to see some screenshots.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Apopololo

[K0ol-G-R4P]

I watched that video and felt it was somehow a downgrade. What looks "good" in this case is subjective.

[Coolstream]

Oh look, it's this topic, I totally can't wait for it to be locked yet again.

 

Some people like the vanilla experience and some don't. Simple as that.

[TheMostKnowledgable]

 

I watched that video and felt it was somehow a downgrade. What looks "good" in this case is subjective.

 

 

That's my reaction. Looks so much better than the regular game, and is absolutely an objective and not subjective statement. However, there are elements which hurt it. The trees in that second scene of the vid hurt the amazing quality of the buildings and other manmade structures, for example. The vehicles look immaculate. Anything manmade looks incredible in this setting. Most of the best settings still suffer from the organics hurting the rest of the image, though.