GTASOL - The Topic That Started It All

[Ss4gogeta0]

Not sure about the audio side of things m8.

 

It's a waiting game i'm afraid

indeed, because it all depends on our schedules... atm Im doing loads of school work

 

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Edited February 16, 2014 by Ss4gogeta0

[X-Seti]

Well done for joining in and given your 10 cents worth.

 

I am planning to full the gaps between the islands but I need to first find the best places for them. That image on the first post is an idea not a working concept.

 

Still Appalachian/Rocky Mountains, Mississippi River, Route 66, The Great Lakes is a great idea.

 

I need to start researching images and stuff so I can model it. if you have maps or picture post them.

 

[SonofYankton]

Rocky Mountains

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mississippi River

 

 

 

 

Route 66 [ I would call it route 69, it's what rockstar would have done!]

 

 

 

 

Great Lakes

 

 

 

Edited February 17, 2014 by mnmn1234

[X-Seti]

OH my, Ok it's a challenge to get some of those places modelled.

 

Looking at those lakes it's going into the real of Canada.. something to think about. I wasn't planning on remodelling all of North America

[SonofYankton]

Just make one Big Lake And call it Great Lake or something

[Ss4gogeta0]

OH my, Ok it's a challenge to get some of those places modelled.

 

Looking at those lakes it's going into the real of Canada.. something to think about. I wasn't planning on remodelling all of North America

you know you could also cut corners and get pre modeled versions from a 3D warehouse... I know sketchup has the Mississippi river modeled

[SonofYankton]

It really would not take THAT long to make the midwest, just copy and past some plains from SA maybe a farm or 2 and add a river and Then BAM you have a mid west!

[SonofYankton]

OK I am going to make what i feel Should be the Whole America SOL

[SonofYankton]

EDIT new map

 

 

Edited February 18, 2014 by mnmn1234

[SourceMutant]

^

​This is what I came up with, scale based on the first map. No matter what land is added, this might be good general positions for the islands.

I don't know how much room you have to work with and if having the islands that far apart or close to the edge would even work.

 

OH my, Ok it's a challenge to get some of those places modelled.

 

Looking at those lakes it's going into the real of Canada.. something to think about. I wasn't planning on remodelling all of North America

 

 

^

( mnmn1234 actually imagined it similar to the way I did, cool! )

If any of this was added it could be just basic terrain, nothing crazy. And one lake would probably be easier, placed north of Liberty City and Midtown. It could even just go off the map to the north so you wouldn't even have to worry about Canada.

Route 66 would begin/end at Midtown and Los Santos (I'm guessing somewhere in Red County area), going though midwest. Maybe other roads connecting cities together. (roads and tunnels through mountains possibly an idea)

Map of Route 66: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t281ELHyTCU/ThHwJQuxnyI/AAAAAAAAAco/TGjDRyE8WeU/s1600/map+of+route+66.jpg

Mississippi River could run somewhere between Rockys and Midtown, through midwest to the south (again just a basic river, maybe with a few curves) That could end at another body of water (..gulf of mexico?) west of Vice City.

There's other rivers that might work with it or instead of Mississippi.

Map of Mississippi River and other rivers: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Mississippi_watershed_map_1.jpg

Edited February 18, 2014 by SourceMutant

[SonofYankton]

That Bottom map is what i was going for.

[GrandTheftAutoGawler]

Working trains between the cities and an airline service would be awesome

I say more desert and mountains would make this mod the best!

[Ss4gogeta0]

If you plan on making San Jose you can call it Tiburon...

 

Oakland could be called Cestnutflats

Edited February 18, 2014 by Ss4gogeta0

[Avskygod0]

EDIT new map

 

 

 

I think the river should start from the mountain for more sense

[nkjellman]

EDIT new map

 

 

For the land linked version of the map, something like that would work. But I'd make the land go north of San Andreas, and also put MLL on the west side of the lake, so the shore is on the east.

[X-Seti]

I have my work cut out, building that kind of map would take me about a year in 3dsmax, but getting it in game takes much longer because of the buggy 3dsmax scripts.

 

I am just finishing on the VC docks where I will move onto other parts of VC jump onto that map.

 

I agree with Chicago on the west side of that lake I might even split them up and those mountains appear to be in the right place, is the SA map in the right place or should I break that part of the map down so Vegas, LA and SF are in the right place.?

[SourceMutant]

The way they made SA with those cities is a bit off, but it did work for what Rockstar was going for, I suppose. It would be interesting to see the SA cities in a more correct form though.

 

I was already looking into real maps of Las Vegas, I'm not sure how much of that was changed in GTA and what direction is the real north for LV. (someone else might know?) LA could be more south and have the coast facing more west. Maybe not a full 90 degrees. I have no clue how hard it would be. SF looks really close to being correct the way Rockstar did it already. Maybe position it more north.

 

I think there's enough room to do it. The whole west coast is SA. I'm sure there's some way it COULD be done.

[nkjellman]

Just wondering, for the more real world, land locked version of the map, are you going to make LC more New York like with New York buildings and bridges? You could probably steal stuff from GTA IV.

[X-Seti]

Stealing stuff from GTAIV or V???

 

I would have liked to used GTAIV and maybe V but the way things are from a legal standpoint, this might be frowned upon by R and might lead to future problems down the road. but yes LC will be redone. I would like to keep signature iconic buildings and land areas depending on how the map will in the end fit together but again all this would now have to be remodeled.

 

 

Pretty much everything and why I am spending alot of time on VC right now. I try to spend 2 or 3 hours each day depending on how I am and if nothing else needs my attention for most like house stuff etc; and how my illness affects me on a daily basis (I get tired more so) but I am in this for the long term, so I have the talent and the time to get the job done.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qf88xvs1zxt96q/Screenshot%202014-02-20%2003.53.50.png

 

 

I have reached my goals with getting everything on one map for beta 69.5. Its time to move onwards and see what really can be done for VC, Rage and maybe other engines.

 

The project needs to move forward to keep things fresh because things was getting a little stagmeant.

 

Edited February 20, 2014 by X-Seti

[X-Seti]

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- No gore

 

- No crumbling brick walls

 

- little bushes everywhere that stop you dead in your tracks/wreck your cars

 

- No crouching - cover is only allowed on predesignated objects - no help from geography or objects you aren't standing against.

 

- No roll button, can't roll without a weapon equiped

 

- No "retry" or "cancel" option until you die or fail a mission.

 

- terrible car/plane/bike handling

 

- No control over what kind of punches or kicks you throw

 

- 3 crashes on a bicycle and you're dead.

 

- No camping like in RDR.

 

- No RDR-style hunting/trade. Takes any sense of purpose out of the hunting.

 

- the text for button prompts and in parts of the pause menus is too small to read - on the biggest tv I've ever owned even.

 

- Forces a boring-ass stock market "experience" on you

 

- Forces the cell phone on you, but the camera won't even save pictures if you're not playing online. Horsesh*t.

 

- the prostitute 'experience' is offensively bad. They don't just hop in your car and get to it, it's a whole cutscene presentation that you can't cancel out of and it's just bad.

 

- They force realism on you in every aspect, but the cars twist/slide on an axis that's floating above the pavement.

 

- You die or get badly injured by slipping/stumbling on a slope, but flip your convertible with it's top down and you can roll around on the back of the car/your head like a turtle, and there's no visible damage.

 

- The cars handle more like bikes in the air than bicycles do.

 

- The explosions are all the same, an ugly effervescent black/yellow, and they transfer from car to car like a ghost. Not real looking at all. Compare them to the ones in Just Cause 2

 

- Compare EVERYTHING about this game to Just Cause 2, which came out 5 years ago... It's amazing how much worse gta is in many basic aspects.

 

- people catch fire like magic

 

- can't get out of a flying/tumbling car until it comes to a complete stop, and when you do, it's incredibly slow.

 

- Can't bail out of a vehicle, even at low speeds, without injury

 

- Near-invisible reticle

 

- Super-sensitive wanted meter, but you can't even aim a gun out a window without it firing automatically nonstop.

 

- No binoculars/telescope and the camera doesn't work offline

 

- Constantly pushing the ifruit crap and other online services even though there's no internet connection.

 

Way too many little things for it to be an accident. It's shady business and I won't support them after this.

 

 

Look at all the recent NSA/prism stuff... If you think rockstar isn't making money on more than just microtransactions, you're an idiot. Play the friend request/life invader mission a couple of times and look at the data farming stuff they're rubbing in our faces.

 

I was under the impression rockstar would be combining good elements from all their games, not just prettying it up and then stifling/throttling the control you have over everything...

I came across this in GTAV and I haven't even played it yet, No PS3 anymore however I wonder if I can improve upon these issues.

 

I find this interesting through, Comments....

Edited February 20, 2014 by X-Seti

[nWo51289]

Thanks, I've been waiting too long for this too. Anyway I've decided to hold off adding Liberty City for now just to try and fix some annoying little bugs with Vice City (freezing, crashing etc.) Also now all cities/countryside has it's own IMG archive thanks to fastman92's IMG Limit Adjuster. Doing this helps with loading models as well as making it easier for modding purposes. There are now 103 archives all together in gta3.dat! (excluding skin.img, gta3.img, gta_int.img & player.img). I'm using United's Liberty City to make sure it can be added alongside SA & VC without hitting a limit that hasn't been cracked yet. If LC can be added then it will be removed and replaced with my LC (really difficult at the moment as I'm not very good at 3ds Max etc.) I really don't want to convert LC only to hit a limit, it would just be a waste of time.

 

 

Also been working on a 'secret island'. This island is in the middle of nowhere (at the moment south of SA, the y-cord is around -4500 to give you a idea). I'm using textures from IV for the island.

More screens of VC.

 

EDIT

Cleo Fail......at least for some reason generic objects are not disappearing when you look out to the ocean....progress... No, I'm not spawning objects using Cleo, one day I'll need to remove SALA (buggy you know) so trying to see if Cleo could sort the map bounds for me.

Edited February 20, 2014 by nWo51289

[SonofYankton]

i don't see why a land linked map would take that long. i mean you take a few models form other websites.

[SonofYankton]

SOL Bit Eh? No But Looks Great. And Since SOL Is only on vice city's engine At The Moment

[nkjellman]

i don't see why a land linked map would take that long. i mean you take a few models form other websites.

Yup. You can also use a terrain generator like City Scape.

[X-Seti]

i don't see why a land linked map would take that long. i mean you take a few models form other websites.

 

I am modelling this myself. I am not into taking short cuts.

 

How about find a 3ds modelling program yourself m8 and learn how to model - I am hoping once others see what I am trying to do here that I will get helping modelling all this.

 

Why I am doing all this. Once you have created something new there is a kind of.... 'I did this myself - satisfaction'

 

You cant beat that.

[SonofYankton]

true true.

 

But Is There ever going to be a land linked map?

Edited February 21, 2014 by mnmn1234

[X-Seti]

Yes there is, Planning and building the land mass is the hardest part.

 

[X-Seti]

 

 

 

 

Progress for VC docks, It's not perfect and the Radiodity / prelighting needs redoing plus texture need to be appled to some of those faces..

[SonofYankton]

Well You do have mine

and SourceMutants Maps to go by!

[nWo51289]

Update. Have added United's Liberty City beside SA & VC and thankfully didn't hit any deadly limit. United's LC roughly uses IDs from 13168 to 14584 so I'm not short of available IDs What to do with all these free IDs I've yet to decide, but still the biggest problem for this mod is the dreaded map bounds! (United LC was only a test and will not in any way shape or form will be released in this mod) (if this mod ever gets released that is!)

 

 

Here's my Cleo script at the moment, CAN ONLY SPAWN GENERIC OBJECTS outside the map bounds. I'm sure the smart cleo guys here will no doubt say that a noob has done it....and they would be right! Feel free to play around with it or tell me how dumb I am! I couldn't figure out what value to use for the -fBounds so objects placed west or south of SA won't show up, works for north & east.

 

 

{$CLEO}

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0A93:

 

So continue to convert LC....wish there was some magic tool that could do it for me...

Edited February 22, 2014 by nWo51289