Rumors of a new Nissan Silvia (S16)

[BigJoe_1]

I was doing my weekly browsing to check and see if there are any new concepts and I came across this:

 

https://nispro.wordpress.com/2014/08/04/nissan-silvia-s16-rumors-continue-to-surface-alongisde-idx/

 

Now I'm not the most gullible or believing person so I'm not fully expecting these rumors to be true but there's no harm in being optimistic.

 

I did use the search function to check if there were any threads about this already and there aren't so I'm just posting this to alert anyone who hasen't heard about this yet (Silvia lovers in particular).

 

Even for an edited video I think the concept looks pretty nice already, it's got nice features that resemble the S15, the famous rear lights of the S15 and an even meaner sounding engine. I think the sharp yet curved edges of the car really emphasize modern cars, enough to make the car look up to date but not enough to make it look like the cars that give 12 year olds wet dreams ie the Veyron and other overly shapen cars. For the front bumper in particular, I think the grille could stand to be a little smaller but then again it is a concept but other than that it's really nice, as for the rear and sides I think they're near enough spot on, the sides don't have any unnecessary extras and the rear bumper really brings back that sporty look that the Silvia always had however the exhaust pipes could be a little smaller.

 

What do you guys think?

Edited June 20, 2015 by BigJoe_1

[SouthLand]

I don't like it at all.

[BigJoe_1]

I don't like it at all.

Why? If you don't mind me asking.

[SouthLand]

 

 

I don't like it at all.

Why? If you don't mind me asking.I don't Like the design of it nothing else. Looks like it came from a Fast and Furious movie Edited January 17, 2015 by SouthLand

[BigJoe_1]

 

 

I don't like it at all.

Why? If you don't mind me asking.

I don't Like the design of it nothing else. Looks like it came from a Fast and Furious movie

I get where your coming from, but it is a concept car though so it's going to look kind of outrageous but the rear lights and overall shape really makes it resemble the S15.

 

however it's opinion and your preference, I can't and won't try to change that.

Edited June 20, 2015 by BigJoe_1

[Sean O'God]

I think it's gorgeous. It keeps a lot of what made the S15 so beautiful.

[sivispacem]

The red concept is pretty decent looking.

The blue one is vile.

Neither are real, the blog is just some random bloke's WordPress site.

[G's Ah's]

I wouldn't be too optimistic. Mazda was originally going to continue the RX line of rotor-powered sports cars with the RX-9 but pulled the plug on that to focus on it's normal engines and cars.

 

Nissan considering bringing back the Silvia nameplate would probably be along the same lines. It's nice to get all the proper car geeks worked up about it while they're busy either bringing some new blood to the market (which they should) or fitting new thin carpets to the GT-R.

The red concept is pretty decent looking.
The blue one is vile.
Neither are real, the blog is just some random bloke's WordPress site.

 

The red one really looks like a GT car than a small and relatively inexpensive 2-door coupe like the GT-86, which is what the Silvia's main competition will be. The blue concept, to me, looks more realistic but looks like a hideous body kit to sell to people to drape over their S15's.

[epoxi]

The red concept is pretty decent looking.

The blue one is vile.

Neither are real, the blog is just some random bloke's WordPress site.

The red one looks to be a mix mash of Infiniti photos.

The blue one isn't inherently bad-looking, it's just rendered to look sweatier than an overweight Floridian's buttcrack.

[*MURDOC*]

The blue one just looks like an awful kit on an S15.

 

370GTRvia.

Edited January 17, 2015 by *MURDOC*

[BigJoe_1]

I'm not expecting this to come true but I am hoping that it does, I loved the S15 and always wanted to see an updated model.

 

There is a small chance though, Toyota rebought the Supra trademark a couple of years ago so we can expect a new Supra within the next couple of years and Honda just released the new NSX after 11 years so maybe Nissan might decide to bring back the SIlvia line so theres the Silvia for the people who can't afford a GT-R but still want a sport coupe.

 

I think they both look decent but the blue one could stand to be a bit more basic looking and the red one looks like a mix of so many other cars you can't really tell what it's supposed to be the successor to.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

The red concept is pretty decent looking.

The blue one is vile.

Neither are real, the blog is just some random bloke's WordPress site.

Yeah fake, I doubt it would end up looking like the red one as the Q60 coupe looks very similar.

[Argonaut]

It'd be nice but if not priced correctly it'll just end up in the hands of 46 somethings who occasionally like to put their foot down. Seriously, I know of a few that drive by every now and again- a depressing site to see.

[G's Ah's]

I'm not expecting this to come true but I am hoping that it does, I loved the S15 and always wanted to see an updated model.

 

There is a small chance though, Toyota rebought the Supra trademark a couple of years ago so we can expect a new Supra within the next couple of years and Honda just released the new NSX after 11 years so maybe Nissan might decide to bring back the SIlvia line so theres the Silvia for the people who can't afford a GT-R but still want a sport coupe.

 

I think they both look decent but the blue one could stand to be a bit more basic looking and the red one looks like a mix of so many other cars you can't really tell what it's supposed to be the successor to.

 

So what exactly is the point of the Nissan 370Z then?

[hvcciookay]

Right, if anything the Silva would be aimed at the BRZ / FR-S, but the Freeflow if it releases, would be the competitor for the Toyobaru duo.

[Lurch]

At least it won't have a f*cking SR20. An FRS/BRZ/GT86 competitor would be great.

[sivispacem]

So what exactly is the point of the Nissan 370Z then?

They're more of a GT-cum-Japanese-Muscle than a proper sports car.

[BigJoe_1]

 

I'm not expecting this to come true but I am hoping that it does, I loved the S15 and always wanted to see an updated model.

 

There is a small chance though, Toyota rebought the Supra trademark a couple of years ago so we can expect a new Supra within the next couple of years and Honda just released the new NSX after 11 years so maybe Nissan might decide to bring back the SIlvia line so theres the Silvia for the people who can't afford a GT-R but still want a sport coupe.

 

I think they both look decent but the blue one could stand to be a bit more basic looking and the red one looks like a mix of so many other cars you can't really tell what it's supposed to be the successor to.

 

So what exactly is the point of the Nissan 370Z then?

The point of the 370Z was to appeal to people who wanted distinctive Japanese styling with more power than your average Japanese sports coupe hence the 3.7 litre V6.

 

The silvia was more of a compact sports coupe that wasn't supposed to be powerful enough to qualify as a real sports car.

 

Not to mention a lot of people that I know can't even afford a 370Z never mind a GT-R so the silvia would be perfect for their budget.

Edited January 19, 2015 by BigJoe_1

[Flachbau]

I don't know. If they produce a new model, I don't think it would be favored so much if it looked like the concept images in the article. It needs to look slimmer, like the S15.

 

Oh, and for God's sake, please no check mark head/tail lights..

Edited January 19, 2015 by android

[*MURDOC*]

Those aren't as much concept images as they are some random guys renders, don't take them seriously in any way.

 

 

If they are working on an S16, I would not be surprised to see a sort-of "mini-GTR" styling philosophy, which I think could actually work as long as it doesn't end up bloated.

[G's Ah's]

The point of the 370Z was to appeal to people who wanted distinctive Japanese styling with more power than your average Japanese sports coupe hence the 3.7 litre V6.

 

None of which the 370Z has or is. "Distinctive Japanese styling" is marketing gubbins for saying it's just a continuation of the 300 series sporting couple lines and the VQ37VHR engine in the 370Z is less powerful than the engine you get in Infiniti Q and G series coupes, which are sold in Japan as Nissan Skylines.

 

Ergo, it's for people who want a sports car but cannot afford a GT-R. Ergo, the Silvia won't be the same thing, because it won't be as powerful as a 370Z because Nissan will more than likely pander to the purists and throw it into direct competition with the GT-86/BRZ.

[BigJoe_1]

 

The point of the 370Z was to appeal to people who wanted distinctive Japanese styling with more power than your average Japanese sports coupe hence the 3.7 litre V6.

 

None of which the 370Z has or is. "Distinctive Japanese styling" is marketing gubbins for saying it's just a continuation of the 300 series sporting couple lines and the VQ37VHR engine in the 370Z is less powerful than the engine you get in Infiniti Q and G series coupes, which are sold in Japan as Nissan Skylines.

 

Ergo, it's for people who want a sports car but cannot afford a GT-R. Ergo, the Silvia won't be the same thing, because it won't be as powerful as a 370Z because Nissan will more than likely pander to the purists and throw it into direct competition with the GT-86/BRZ.

The 370Z does have distinctive japanese styling. The rear half of the body shares similarities with the shape of the Datsun 240Z which happens to be one of the most well known cars to come out of Japan (I know they're both in the same series, however the 240Z along with cars like the 2000GT are more well known, at the moment at least).

 

The Q50 is a sports sedan not a sports coupe, 2 different categories.

 

Just because the 2 cars share the same engine doesn't mean both engines have to have the same power output. The Q50 is slightly heavier which makes it necessary for it to have that extra power so the car doesn't seem sluggish. It also has different weight distribution (slightly more in the front) which in some situations may require extra power. I'm not going to state others but those are 2 of the reasons that makes the Q50's extra power neccesary. The 370Z isn't affected by problems like these as much as the Q50 is therefore there would be no need to give it as much power as the VQ37VHR that is in the Q50.

 

Note: The G35 weighs slightly more than the 370Z which makes the extra power neccessary.

 

However I do hope that if a new silvia is made, it is put into competition with the BR-Z and GT-86 I would really like to see some track action between the two cars.

Edited June 20, 2015 by BigJoe_1

[G's Ah's]

The 370Z does have distinctive japanese styling. The rear half of the body shares similarities with the shape of the Datsun 240Z which happens to be one of the most well known cars to come out of Japan (I know they're in the same series but the 240Z is very well known next to cars like the 2000GT).

 

It's not distinctive at all.

 

 

 

Just because the 2 cars share the same engine doesn't mean both engines have to have the same power output.

 

No sh*t Sherlock.

 

 

 

The Q50 is a sports sedan not a sports coupe, 2 different categories.

 

I was looking at the Q60, which is a coupe. Either way, the 370Z is for people who can't afford a GT-R, much in the same way a Porsche Boxter/Cayman is for people who can't afford a 911.

[sivispacem]

See, I totally disagree with the above W/R/T the Cayman. It's a better drive and steer than the 911 on the whole. I'd rather have the Cayman.

[G's Ah's]

The Cayman doesn't have the same prestige as the 911 does. You think Porsche, you think 911. Not a Boxter with a hard top roof as some sort of marketing gimmick.

[sivispacem]

Some people don't particularly care about prestige. They'd rather have a sweeter handling car that's more fun to drive.

[*MURDOC*]

Those people matter.

 

Well, they do to the people that actually care about the cars, not just the marketing and profit side.

[epoxi]

To be fair, blind consumers who don't understand/care about cars contribute greatly to the industry.

 

Every suburbanite buying a Camry, every douchebag driving a BMW, every overconfident teenager crashing a Ferrari, every person taking out a ridiculous loan to buy a new Dodge when they could be putting a downpayment on a house, they are all adding their own demand to the system.

 

Only a tiny fraction of people who buy GTA even complete the story-line, but without all the people buying it the game either wouldn't exist, wouldn't be the same quality, or we'd have to prove we want the game by coughing up $300 a copy to match the revenue.

 

It is to these people I owe the fact I can buy a 6 month old 42" flat-screen TV for the same money I spend on groceries, it is thanks to these people I can drive a £22,000 car for less than many people spend on clothes, it is because of these people we get richer every year.

[G's Ah's]

To be fair, blind consumers who don't understand/care about cars contribute greatly to the industry.

 

Indeed. It's how Chrysler and Hyundai stay in business.

[Mr Tomato]

To be fair, blind consumers who don't understand/care about cars contribute greatly to the industry.

 

Every suburbanite buying a Camry, every douchebag driving a BMW, every overconfident teenager crashing a Ferrari, every person taking out a ridiculous loan to buy a new Dodge when they could be putting a downpayment on a house, they are all adding their own demand to the system.

 

Only a tiny fraction of people who buy GTA even complete the story-line, but without all the people buying it the game either wouldn't exist, wouldn't be the same quality, or we'd have to prove we want the game by coughing up $300 a copy to match the revenue.

 

It is to these people I owe the fact I can buy a 6 month old 42" flat-screen TV for the same money I spend on groceries, it is thanks to these people I can drive a £22,000 car for less than many people spend on clothes, it is because of these people we get richer every year.

Well said, unfortunately these people are generally tasteless.