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The Dedito Gae

[TLAD] Clay is an afterthought?

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The Dedito Gae

lately i been replaying TLAD (thank you very much cowboy!!) and i realized that Clay is not shown much on the cutscenes, at all, it seems like he was added later on the game.

he doesn't speak on the cutscenes, he never appears in the main focus,nothing, just watch this in the last minutes:
no close up to Clay's face,he look like he was added later,he's always on one side, i don't know, he just looks weird, in all cutscenes Angus is being carried by Terry and never by Clay.
do you think i'm pulling things of my ass or do i have something in here, what do you think about this?
Edited by Midnight Hitman

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lilchris131

He isn't on the LCPD database either, which is kind of another indication that he wasn't thought of until later. Obviously Angus isn't either but he is given more character development. I think they probably just needed someone to fit the role of road captain and an extra "right hand man" for Johnny.

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Vice City criminal

It's funny how he isn't on the LCPD database but Huang Lee is.
I also believe that he's an afterthought Considering that I only hear him speak when starting a gang war.

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donnits

3:41 and 3:56 he does the exact same motion haha. And at the end, it zooms on everyone but Clay as they watch the club burn down. As others said, he never talks in cutscenes and he isn't on the LCPD database. I guess he was an afterthought, sadly. Still, he was cool during gameplay.

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The Dedito Gae

3:41 and 3:56 he does the exact same motion haha. And at the end, it zooms on everyone but Clay as they watch the club burn down. As others said, he never talks in cutscenes and he isn't on the LCPD database. I guess he was an afterthought, sadly. Still, he was cool during gameplay.

it's sad that he talks for first time in a cutscene during"Mr Phillips" ,and we all know how that ends up for the lost.

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PhillBellic

I get that impression as well. I was hoping for more character development to find out more about Clay.

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B Dawg

I guess Clay was added as the Biker version of Roman, hence why he tries to please as many women as he can! Booty! Johnny, you ever had three women at once? They also pay me for it!

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Drunken Cowboy

Clay doesn't talk because he "leaves the politickin' to you boys!"

 

But yeah, it's pretty obvious. The whole cutscene set includes no speaking parts, other missions like This Sh*t's Cursed have everyone in the clubhouse except him. He's only there really in the intro and in the conclusion. Even on bikes he has no dialogue between himself and characters tied only to story missions like Billy and Brian.

Neat how they made him pretty in-depth with the friend conversations alone.

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The Dedito Gae

It's not the first time in the series, but his artwork is misleading as hell, i just found out this guy is Clay, i never bothered to think who might be, i always thought it was some mexican biker or another generic angry guy.

 

ClaySimons-Artwork.jpg

 

And i been playing TLAD since 2010.

Edit: dats a small image, sorry.

Edited by Midnight Hitman

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Drunken Cowboy

It's not the first time in the series, but his artwork is misleading as hell, i just found out this guy is Clay, i never bothered to think who might be, i always thought it was some mexican biker or another generic angry guy.

 

ClaySimons-Artwork.jpg

 

And i been playing TLAD since 2010.

Edit: dats a small image, sorry.

Says "Crowdog" on the lapel, brah. Ya'll shoulda caught that!

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Stoney0503

A possible reason why Clay was added late in development is because of the bike delivery feature, they couldn't use another MAIN character; Jim dies in the story, Billy is an asshole and gets arrested, Brian hates Johnny and Terry sells the guns, so they probably needed a new character.

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iiCriminnaaL 49

I don't know if anyone is still interested in this after three years, but I've just realized another hint that supports this very likely theory.

 

Skip to 4:38:

 

Terry was talking like if he was surrounded by only Johnny and Jim, despite the presence of Clay alongside them.

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tranceking26

Clays a legend, but maybe he spent most of his time looking after bikes in his workshop. 

 

Sad to see both him and Terry get killed off but sh*t happens in GTA.

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