The Dedito Gae 28,421 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) lately i been replaying TLAD (thank you very much cowboy!!) and i realized that Clay is not shown much on the cutscenes, at all, it seems like he was added later on the game. he doesn't speak on the cutscenes, he never appears in the main focus,nothing, just watch this in the last minutes: no close up to Clay's face,he look like he was added later,he's always on one side, i don't know, he just looks weird, in all cutscenes Angus is being carried by Terry and never by Clay. do you think i'm pulling things of my ass or do i have something in here, what do you think about this? Edited January 13, 2015 by Midnight Hitman Niobium, iiCriminnaaL, Ivan1997GTA and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
lilchris131 97 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He isn't on the LCPD database either, which is kind of another indication that he wasn't thought of until later. Obviously Angus isn't either but he is given more character development. I think they probably just needed someone to fit the role of road captain and an extra "right hand man" for Johnny. Ivan1997GTA and The Dedito Gae 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Vice City criminal 878 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 It's funny how he isn't on the LCPD database but Huang Lee is. I also believe that he's an afterthought Considering that I only hear him speak when starting a gang war. Ivan1997GTA and Drunken Cowboy 2 Link to post Share on other sites
donnits 4,328 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 3:41 and 3:56 he does the exact same motion haha. And at the end, it zooms on everyone but Clay as they watch the club burn down. As others said, he never talks in cutscenes and he isn't on the LCPD database. I guess he was an afterthought, sadly. Still, he was cool during gameplay. universetwisters, Drunken Cowboy, Niobium and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
The Dedito Gae 28,421 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 3:41 and 3:56 he does the exact same motion haha. And at the end, it zooms on everyone but Clay as they watch the club burn down. As others said, he never talks in cutscenes and he isn't on the LCPD database. I guess he was an afterthought, sadly. Still, he was cool during gameplay. it's sad that he talks for first time in a cutscene during"Mr Phillips" ,and we all know how that ends up for the lost. Payne Killer, Ivan1997GTA and Niobium 3 Link to post Share on other sites
PhillBellic 24,570 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I get that impression as well. I was hoping for more character development to find out more about Clay. Link to post Share on other sites
B Dawg 10,410 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I guess Clay was added as the Biker version of Roman, hence why he tries to please as many women as he can! Booty! Johnny, you ever had three women at once? They also pay me for it! iiCriminnaaL, Jeansowaty, The Dedito Gae and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,835 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Clay doesn't talk because he "leaves the politickin' to you boys!" But yeah, it's pretty obvious. The whole cutscene set includes no speaking parts, other missions like This Sh*t's Cursed have everyone in the clubhouse except him. He's only there really in the intro and in the conclusion. Even on bikes he has no dialogue between himself and characters tied only to story missions like Billy and Brian. Neat how they made him pretty in-depth with the friend conversations alone. iiCriminnaaL, Niobium, Copcaller and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
The Dedito Gae 28,421 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) It's not the first time in the series, but his artwork is misleading as hell, i just found out this guy is Clay, i never bothered to think who might be, i always thought it was some mexican biker or another generic angry guy. And i been playing TLAD since 2010. Edit: dats a small image, sorry. Edited February 9, 2015 by Midnight Hitman iiCriminnaaL and tranceking26 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,835 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It's not the first time in the series, but his artwork is misleading as hell, i just found out this guy is Clay, i never bothered to think who might be, i always thought it was some mexican biker or another generic angry guy. And i been playing TLAD since 2010. Edit: dats a small image, sorry. Says "Crowdog" on the lapel, brah. Ya'll shoulda caught that! Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney0503 6,233 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 A possible reason why Clay was added late in development is because of the bike delivery feature, they couldn't use another MAIN character; Jim dies in the story, Billy is an asshole and gets arrested, Brian hates Johnny and Terry sells the guns, so they probably needed a new character. Corndawg93, Copcaller, tranceking26 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
iiCriminnaaL 4,415 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I don't know if anyone is still interested in this after three years, but I've just realized another hint that supports this very likely theory. Skip to 4:38: Terry was talking like if he was surrounded by only Johnny and Jim, despite the presence of Clay alongside them. B Dawg, universetwisters and Ivan1997GTA 3 Link to post Share on other sites
tranceking26 1,243 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Clays a legend, but maybe he spent most of his time looking after bikes in his workshop. Sad to see both him and Terry get killed off but sh*t happens in GTA. Link to post Share on other sites
