PittDawg Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Its not speculation or conspiracy theories it business. ... The delay to March was all R* and was pure business as I re posted someones comment explaining it. "Its not speculation" then you say "The delay to March was all R* and was pure business". That's speculation. Haven't been paying attention to the "fiscal quarter" talks have you. Its business plain and simple. Xerukal posted a video where they briefly mention it. You can look around the various GTA V forums for more thorough explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Haven't been paying attention to the "fiscal quarter" talks have you. Yes, the "fiscal quarter" talks that are also speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Haven't been paying attention to the "fiscal quarter" talks have you. Yes, the "fiscal quarter" talks that are also speculation. The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. You got a source for that at all? Or are you just speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wah007 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Haven't been paying attention to the "fiscal quarter" talks have you. Yes, the "fiscal quarter" talks that are also speculation. The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay.If that's the case then they are a bad company. They should have just set the release date for March in the beginning instead of messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. You got a source for that at all? Or are you just speculating. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quarter.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Huh, Gamespot is discussing the delay. Didn't expect that. It certainly makes sense that the fiscal quarters/year play a role in their delays, and I agree with this theory. I've had similar thoughts the other day. Every major Grand Theft Auto from the original game to Vice City Stories, was released in an October, which used to be the last month of the fiscal year of DMA Design (known as Rockstar North nowadays, who were acquired by TTWO in 1999) and later Take-Two Interactive. As mentioned in the video, GTA IV was originally planned for an October release, however they ended up delaying it by half a year due to the complicated programming of the PS3 and the limited storage of the X360. A release in the very last week of the fiscal year makes sense with a game as big as GTA, because they can greatly boost two fiscal years with just one release this way. The first week is obviously the time when they sell the most copies. Let's use San Andreas as an example. Prior to GTAV, it was Rockstar's best-selling game. They released the game on the 26th of October 2004, so they boosted their numbers for the fiscal year 2005, and the fiscal year 2006 also went exceptionally well. In 2010 the end of the fiscal year was shifted from October to March, probably because to match with the rest of the industry. So, I think that one reason why Rockstar delayed the PC version to late March is because the fiscal year ends a week later, i.e. they give this fiscal year a final boost and ensure that fiscal year 2016 will be another successful year. To me, Rockstar seem quite confident about the PC release. Edited January 15, 2015 by Andreas Kampret, UltraGizmo64, Xerukal and 1 other 4 GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iddqdvie Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 complaining about the delay? one word: unity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iddqdvie Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Huh, Gamespot is discussing the delay. Didn't expect that. It certainly makes sense that the fiscal quarters/year play a role in their delays, and I agree with this theory. I've had similar thoughts the other day. Every major Grand Theft Auto from the original game to Vice City Stories, was released in an October, which used to be the last month of the fiscal year of DMA Design (known as Rockstar North nowadays, who were acquired by TTWO in 1999) and later Take-Two Interactive. As mentioned in the video, GTA IV was originally planned for an October release, however they ended up delaying it by half a year due to the complicated programming of the PS3 and the limited storage of the X360. A release in the very last week of the fiscal year makes sense with a game as big as GTA, because they can greatly boost two fiscal years with just one release this way. The first week is obviously the time when they sell the most copies. Let's use San Andreas as an example. Prior to GTAV, it was Rockstar's best-selling game. They released the game on the 26th of October 2004, so they boosted their numbers for the fiscal year 2005, and the fiscal year 2006 also went exceptionally well. In 2010 the end of the fiscal year was shifted from October to March, probably because to match with the rest of the industry. So, I think that one reason why Rockstar delayed the PC version to late March is because the fiscal year ends a week later, i.e. they give this fiscal year a final boost and ensure that fiscal year 2016 will be another successful year. To me, Rockstar seem quite confident about the PC release. but why would they set a releasedate for january in first place? just for the hype? do they really squeeze every cent out of it by filling gaps with "fake" release dates? is there any worthwhile outcome with this strategy? cant it be a simple act of statement against other companies' "release it and fix it later" policies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wah007 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Didn't they reconfirm the January release date a few days ago? And now this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC PATROL Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) ^ I don't think they mentioned the January release at all since announcing it in September. Edited January 15, 2015 by NYC PATROL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wah007 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 ^ I don't think they mentioned the January release at all since announcing it in September. Hmmm I'm sure I read something about it. Must have been a rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. You got a source for that at all? Or are you just speculating. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quarter.asp So not an actual source. AKA speculation. Edited January 15, 2015 by Crystal3lf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. You got a source for that at all? Or are you just speculating. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quarter.asp So not an actual source. AKA speculation. Are genuinely this naive? The site is giving you the basic rundown of fiscal quarters which ALL companies have. Read andreas reply and try as best you can to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 but why would they set a releasedate for january in first place? just for the hype? do they really squeeze every cent out of it by filling gaps with "fake" release dates? is there any worthwhile outcome with this strategy? cant it be a simple act of statement against other companies' "release it and fix it later" policies? January was the release month because that's when they expected to be done with the development. My guess is, Rockstar really wanted to release the PC version on January 27, however they started to realize that it wouln't be possible to deliver it with the level of quality they expect not too long ago. They announced the delay pretty late, though. Maybe because only a few more weeks of polish were needed, but they extended it to two full months, to release it a week prior to the end of the fourth fiscal quarter and so the fiscal year. As Xerukal said, it's both a business decision and to ensure that the game runs flawlessly on release day. At least, it's a very sound theory in my eyes. Xerukal, Uncle Sikee Atric, Kaito Katsumi and 3 others 6 GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsk222 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) The comment: R*'s fiscal year ends in the beginning of March. If they released the game in late January, that would only give the PC version one month to sell before it went on their record, and I'd imagine it'd look pretty bad to investors. Launching it at the end of March gives the PC version a whole year to sell, including the big Steam Sales that will no doubt give the game a HUGE boost in sales. This is not speculation, R* fiscal quarter ends in March. R* are more concerned as any company would be, with their investors period. This doesn't make them a bad company, its just showing the reason for the delay. You got a source for that at all? Or are you just speculating. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quarter.asp So not an actual source. AKA speculation. http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1930485 Scroll down until "Financial Outlook for Fiscal 2015" Edited January 16, 2015 by tomsk222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wah007 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Has there ever been a time where R* released a game before the announced release date? Johnny Sins and Bodge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Are genuinely this naive? The site is giving you the basic rundown of fiscal quarters which ALL companies have. Read andreas reply and try as best you can to understand. I don't care what you post, you're still speculating that Rockstar delayed the game with no evidence to why they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daformer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Were the requirements for GTA IV similar to these? or did they require higher end parts? back in 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIndianRobin Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Were the requirements for GTA IV similar to these? or did they require higher end parts? back in 2008 No, they were quite similar. Although, even the recommended specs couldn't run it at 720p high settings 30 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Ossi Loko Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Isn't March too early for the release? I think they should delay it for another year. Jokes aside, we're waiting for the PC version almost 2 years. Is it gonna feature (AT LEAST) modding? UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIndianRobin Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Isn't March too early for the release? I think they should delay it for another year. Jokes aside, we're waiting for the PC version almost 2 years. Is it gonna feature (AT LEAST) modding? Probably not. Users have to figure a way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Are genuinely this naive? The site is giving you the basic rundown of fiscal quarters which ALL companies have. Read andreas reply and try as best you can to understand. I don't care what you post, you're still speculating that Rockstar delayed the game with no evidence to why they did. And you are ignoring the explanations others have posted based and FACTS regarding a company. Its ok to admit you simply don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 And you are ignoring the explanations others have posted based and FACTS regarding a company. Its ok to admit you simply don't understand. speculation ˌspɛkjʊˈleɪʃn noun 1. the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 And you are ignoring the explanations others have posted based and FACTS regarding a company. Its ok to admit you simply don't understand. speculation ˌspɛkjʊˈleɪʃn noun 1. the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. The firm evidence is the "Quarterly structure that all companies abide by". Its ok, you don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 And you are ignoring the explanations others have posted based and FACTS regarding a company. Its ok to admit you simply don't understand. speculation ˌspɛkjʊˈleɪʃn noun 1. the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. The firm evidence is the "Quarterly structure that all companies abide by". Its ok, you don't understand. No that is not evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDawg Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 And you are ignoring the explanations others have posted based and FACTS regarding a company. Its ok to admit you simply don't understand. speculation ˌspɛkjʊˈleɪʃn noun 1. the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. The firm evidence is the "Quarterly structure that all companies abide by". Its ok, you don't understand. No that is not evidence. Rockstars Q1 fiscal doesn't end in March? They didn't delay the game until the end of March? Companies don't delay the release of their products based on fiscal quarters to benefit their investors and themselves more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasez Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 As we know there is new release date and this only means one thing GTA V Port is going to be so badd. GG GL HF The second delay means that the port is already bad, I'm not going to be surprised if it's going to be worse than GTA 4. ngcLink00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 As we know there is new release date and this only means one thing GTA V Port is going to be so badd. GG GL HF The second delay means that the port is already bad, I'm not going to be surprised if it's going to be worse than GTA 4. First of all; it's not a port. Second; they delayed it to polish it. Third; Recommended req's are a GTX660, that's a 3-4 year old mid-end card, but I guess you wont understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasez Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 As we know there is new release date and this only means one thing GTA V Port is going to be so badd. GG GL HF The second delay means that the port is already bad, I'm not going to be surprised if it's going to be worse than GTA 4. First of all; it's not a port. Second; they delayed it to polish it. Third; Recommended req's are a GTX660, that's a 3-4 year old mid-end card, but I guess you wont understand. I have a 2 year old Radeon HD7970 3GB gpu and I'm ready to upgrade, do you think I care about the specs? Don't b*sh*t me about polishing. it doesn't take 4 months to change wheels on a car that I already own. btw what exactly are they polishing if the specs are quite low? port baby, port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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