IV's Police System = V's Police System -

[Ambient_]

After studying the behaviour of the LCPD I've concluded it's exactly the same as the wanted system in V, however the are some points to be made:

 

- the police will investigate a certain area if you sneak away, hide out of site and watch them on your radar

 

- obviously on V the police have their own independent search fields as opposed to the circle in IV. This is the largest difference.

 

I thought I'd share this find with all of you on GTAF.

[.Ryan.]

If it's the same I wonder why the LSPD aren't trained to place criminals in their squad cars like uh a real cop would?

[Kampret]

Let's not forget V's police brutality and line of sight system.

[CarnageRacing00]

Yeah, I was messing around with the game the other day and found something interesting (PS4 version)

 

I robbed the 24/7 near Banham Canyon and then drove up onto the mountainside, out of range of the police search field. but still able to watch their behavior.

 

They arrived at the 24/7 and looked around. After a few seconds a few of them began walking in my direction ("He went that way!", i would imagine the clerk telling them), so i sniped one with a silenced sniper rifle. They reacted, but didn't know where the shot came from, and a few seconds later my wanted level cleared.

 

Interesting.

[Jerome]

Maybe, but the LSPD have no f*cking idea what police deontology is.

[nkjellman]

Lets throw the Online police system in there.

 

-When searching for you, they always know where you are.

 

I intend on fixing this in the PC version. At first in Online, it was like this. Then it switched to the way it was in SP. Then it switched back. On NG, it was like it was in single player, but it switched back to the bull sh*t system in the latest patch.

[Webster.]

Lets throw the Online police system in there.

 

-When searching for you, they always know where you are.

 

I intend on fixing this in the PC version. At first in Online, it was like this. Then it switched to the way it was in SP. Then it switched back. On NG, it was like it was in single player, but it switched back to the bull sh*t system in the latest patch.

 

Yeah I'm getting this alot now in GTA online. If I drive miles away and hide in an alleyway then somehow another cop car appears close by or the cops from miles away come close and start searching the alleyway so I'm forced to drive away again. The only way I get rid of them is if I'm in a car park building but can't reach the roof because obviously the helicopter will spot me

[PhillBellic]

At least IV's cops don't have bullsh*t Rubberbanding.

[.Ryan.]

GTA V's system is strange IMO. The impression I get is it tries to be realistic, but it's actually more ridiculous in ways. The rubber banding is something I've always despised too.

 

What's the point of trying to outrun them on the highway in a supercar if their standard cruisers can gain an extra 500hp and tap your bumper?

[PhillBellic]

GTA V's system is strange IMO. The impression I get is it tries to be realistic, but it's actually more ridiculous in ways. The rubber banding is something I've always despised too.

 

What's the point of trying to outrun them on the highway in a supercar if their standard cruisers can gain an extra 500hp and tap your bumper?

Not to mention, without any player input, violently jerk the front wheels either to the left or right, so you crash into a wall.

[AuSsIeThUnDeR36]

I find in IV even two stars is fairly difficult to get out of. You have to be quick to get out of the red circle. In V I felt it was easy to avoid police. Just find a bush and crouch in it, simple.

[PhillBellic]

Many complaints regarding V's police are raised in this video;

 

[Dawg37]

I find in IV even two stars is fairly difficult to get out of. You have to be quick to get out of the red circle. In V I felt it was easy to avoid police. Just find a bush and crouch in it, simple.

 

That crap doesn't work for me.

[PhillBellic]

 

I find in IV even two stars is fairly difficult to get out of. You have to be quick to get out of the red circle. In V I felt it was easy to avoid police. Just find a bush and crouch in it, simple.

 

That crap doesn't work for me.

 

It didn't work for me either. They always knew where you are.

[Drunken Cowboy]

LCPD doesn't have invisible stations and officers ever vigilant in the middle of the mountains...

I don't think police in IV are great compared to other open world games, but V's police are a new, completely broken low.

[PhillBellic]

LCPD doesn't have invisible stations and officers ever vigilant in the middle of the mountains...

I don't think police in IV are great compared to other open world games, but V's police are a new, completely broken low.

True. I was really hoping that Rockstar would further develop the police AI from their pretty realistic (for GTA standards) base they set in IV.

[DEERxBanshee]

No. I liked the police better in IV. I didn't have to worry about being gunned down for stealing a car.

[Error2k]

No. I liked the police better in IV. I didn't have to worry about being gunned down for stealing a car.

You obviously didn't played GTA 5.

[Yorpie]

Well in GTA IV, the police also had a line of sight, but it just didn't get displayed on the map. They will see you from pretty far, but if a lone cop is standing with his back to you, you can walk up to him, just like in V.

In GTA IV, they would come to the crime scene and THEN they would start searching for you. If you hide in a place, they will eventually start coming your way and start searching that area but it takes some time.

In GTA V, its quite the same, except that most of the time the police just drive to the crime scene and immediately start searching for you and also come up to your position MUCH faster, which made hiding in bushes pretty pointless, as they would go and search the excact same bush you are hiding in.

 

I personally found GTA IV better in terms of cop evading. The reduced spawn distances of police cars in GTA V made it much harder to escape them as well, I had cops spawning 2 blocks away, while in IV they would spawn a couple of city blocks further.

I guess it also has to do with the fact that in GTA V, if you hide at the crime scene the cops have a limited amount of time to find you because after a while the wanted level dissapears, while in IV, you had to get out of the zone, so they had unlimited time. Because of this, GTA V cops have to react faster or else it would be to easy.

Edited January 16, 2015 by Yorpie

[Raiden1018]

This thread is laughably stupid. xD

 

No. I liked the police better in IV. I didn't have to worry about being gunned down for stealing a car.

You obviously didn't played GTA 5.

 

 

play*

 

And yes, I've played it, and he did too (most likely) because thats exactly what happens. When you steal a car in an officer's sight and try to drive off, they open fire immediately

[The Deadite]

the police I.A is broken in V, they killed my character even though is white.

[Raiden1018]

the police I.A is broken in V, they killed my character even though is white.

 

Misfire of a... I guess, 'joke'?

 

Grammatically AND humor wise... Just absolute misfire. maybe next time?

[PhillBellic]

Regarding the police system, do any of you know why R* dumped what they developed for IV, replacing it with V's system?

[Kampret]

Regarding the police system, do any of you know why R* dumped what they developed for IV, replacing it with V's system?

 

Criticism of IV's wanted system, claiming it's "too easy".

[DEERxBanshee]

 

No. I liked the police better in IV. I didn't have to worry about being gunned down for stealing a car.

You obviously didn't played GTA 5.

 

What? I have plenty of times. The wanted system is stupid. The cops are overly aggressive and you have to worry about being shot for stealing a car at 1 star. GTA IV this was not the case, they would shoot when you had a 2 star wanted level. The only thing that is nice about GTA 5's wanted system is the search cones. But again I shouldn't have to worry about a wanted level when I'm in the middle of the desert WITH A SILENCER and eliminate all witnesses

 

 

Edited January 28, 2015 by DEERxBanshee

[ddyoung]

We can all agree that both games have good parts to the police system. GTA IV had the "realistic" approach to criminals. V has the line of sight. But a happy medium between the difficulty would be nice. In IV it was almost too easy, in V it's nearly impossible.

[MeltedSOX.]

Many complaints regarding V's police are raised in this video;

 

 

This is the PS3 version though, most of these problems have been fixed on the new PS4/XBOX One versions. The AI have been increased and tweaked overall on the newer versions, but it's still not in its best.

Edited January 31, 2015 by MeltedSOX

[PhillBellic]

 

Many complaints regarding V's police are raised in this video;

 

 

 

 

This is the PS3 version though, most of these problems have been fixed on the new PS4/XBOX One versions. The AI have been increased and tweaked overall on the newer versions, but it's still not in its best.

 

True that video is showcasing the PS3 version, however I'd imagine things could be similar.

 

What overall has changed, and would you like to give me a quick run through?

[MeltedSOX.]

 

 

Many complaints regarding V's police are raised in this video;

 

 

 

 

This is the PS3 version though, most of these problems have been fixed on the new PS4/XBOX One versions. The AI have been increased and tweaked overall on the newer versions, but it's still not in its best.

 

True that video is showcasing the PS3 version, however I'd imagine things could be similar.

 

What overall has changed, and would you like to give me a quick run through?

 

 

They fixed the AI driving for sure. Cars do not turn in a "L shape" and teleport side to side anymore like it was shown in the video. They actually turn in curves now, like it was meant to be. We all know by now during high speed cars likes to cut you off, been happening in every GTA game. AI are more smarter now, more similar to the AI system in GTA IV. I sometime notice when I have a level one wanted star, the cops do stop me on foot, the character goes on his knees like GTA IV and gets busted. So they tuned down the cops aggressiveness.

 

What they still need to fix is some of the Police AI. They still catch up to you on high speed chases. You can have a fully upgraded Adder and they still manage to catch up to you and bump you off the road. What they did fixed is when you are hiding to lose your wanted level, the cops do not go to your exact location as if they know where you are already even if you are out of their site. So they AI is not all great, but on the new versions they did manage to fix most of the problems and they are much more better. I'm impressed actually.

Edited January 31, 2015 by MeltedSOX

[PhillBellic]

 

 

 

Many complaints regarding V's police are raised in this video;

 

 

 

 

This is the PS3 version though, most of these problems have been fixed on the new PS4/XBOX One versions. The AI have been increased and tweaked overall on the newer versions, but it's still not in its best.

 

True that video is showcasing the PS3 version, however I'd imagine things could be similar.

 

What overall has changed, and would you like to give me a quick run through?

 

 

They fixed the AI driving for sure. Cars do not turn in a L shape anymore. They actually turn in curves now. We all know by now during high speed cars likes to cut you off. Been happening in every GTA game. AI are more smarter now, more similar to the AI system in GTA IV. I sometime notice when I have a level one wanted star, the cops do stop me on foot, the character goes on his knees like GTA IV and gets busted. So they tuned down the cops aggressiveness.

 

What they still need to fix is some of the Police AI. They still catch up to you on high speed chases. You can have a fully upgraded Adder and they still manage to catch up to you and bump you off the road. What they did fixed is when you are hiding to lose your wanted level, the cops do not go to your exact location as if they know where you are already even if you are out of their site. So they AI is not all great, but on the new versions they did manage to fix most of the problems and they are much more better. I'm impressed actually.

 

So, the crappy Rubber-Banding is still in the game. *sigh*