mattyscfc Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I bought a Cheetah not long after GTA Online came out and never bothered with racing, the question I now have is would it be worth fully upgrading the Cheetah and would it even be competitive in Super races against everybody's upgraded Zentorno's? Or, do I take the plunge and spend the 700k+ on a Zentorno and fully upgrade it in order to make myself competitive in Super races. I usually just go with the stock Zentorno and get 3rd/2nd at best, there's always somebody with an upgraded one, but if my Cheetah would end up being better than a stock Zentorno, I would probably stick with that. Cheers Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giantsgiants Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I wouldn't say a must, but a Cheetah isn't good enough I'm afraid. If you're not a Zentorno fan, I'm sure you'll do fine with an Entity XF or Turismo R. I've won plenty of races with my Turismo R. I would say one of those top 3 cars is a must for winning. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066800436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellStag Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Skill > better cars. Whooped some Zentornos and Turismos with a Vacca because they couldn't drive. Only reason I lost a few times was because they wrecked me. Sussus Amongus, Zorvaine and DriveLikeAViking 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066800454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJS Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The zentorno is a hard car to drive, I always used my entity until recently I took the plunge and bought a zentorno. I did feel like I was struggling to keep up on some races, ones which favour long straights. Once you learn how to control it in the corners it's a beast. abnorm and DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066802571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
screemingEagle Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I would say it depends on the race. If you are in a long race with lots of longs straightaways like on the highways or at the airport where little braking is required, I would use the Adder. It is the fastest overall once it gets through the gears. The Zentorno is the fastest off the line and has best acceleration after braking or taking corners. So if your race has lots of corners which will require you to brake a lot, you should use the Zentorno. Keep in mind that while the Adder has better top speed, its not by much. It will take a long straightaway to catch up to the zentorno but eventually it will., Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066803842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyscfc Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Thanks for the advice, I took the plunge and got the Zentorno. I know it's unoriginal and the standard issue car for the GTAO knobheads but I don't want to be blaming the car for my racing losses. Not sure on my colour scheme, no doubt I will change it in the future but reasonably happy with it for now. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066803960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokin Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I sold my Zentorno, I didn't really like it and it's pretty standard for arseholes to have it. Even though 90% of GTAO races are supers down the highway with no traffic and maybe a jump somewhere in there, I'd rather use my Infernus as it's more fun to drive. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066803989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
screemingEagle Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 go to youtube for some cool paint jobs you can apply to the Zentorno and other cars. There are some really nice schemes using pearlescent. Mine is Midnight Blue for the primary and Sunrise Orange for the Secondary. Then apply a Sunrise Orange pearlescent. Final product looks nice (IMO) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066803995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
screemingEagle Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 go to youtube for some cool paint jobs you can apply to the Zentorno and other cars. There are some really nice schemes using pearlescent. Mine is Midnight Blue for the primary and Sunrise Orange for the Secondary. Then apply a Sunrise Orange pearlescent. Final product looks nice (IMO) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066804017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorvaine Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Skill > better cars. Whooped some Zentornos and Turismos with a Vacca because they couldn't drive. Only reason I lost a few times was because they wrecked me. Well Said. I've personally won a good amount of races in my Bullet. People simply don't know how to turn and all-the-while, most are trying to PIT maneuver everyone else off the road but once you have enough distance, it's all determined by driving skill. HellStag 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066804387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellStag Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 On a side note, the Turismo is useful for when somebody wrecks right in front of you. For instance, a guy wrecked his Adder and got stuck in between two NPC vehicles on a bridge, leaving me nowhere to go. Instead of just crashing right into them, my Turismo kinda just launched the Adder out of my way. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066805360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Unless you're up against good drivers, the car often isn't enough to win a race. I've left Zentornos in the dust using a Voltic, and I'm no racing demon. DarkSavageDeathlyCloud and CrayCray 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066805459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Above Omnipotence Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It all depends on WHO you're racing against. Otherwise, no other vehicle is touching the Zentorno with a good driver behind that wheel. BamaGoodfella and Lay 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066805673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Perro Dog Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Honestly the Zentorno getting a bad wrap for the people who drive them is disappointing. It's just the fact that the Zentorno being the fastest car in the game it's the most popular, therefore more people drive it, therefore more assholes drive it, therefore the nice people abandon it. I drive a Zentorno because I handle them well and it gets me out of tricky situations in sandbox, it's also pretty bullet resistant so I enjoy it. But for races, it all comes down to skill unless you're playing a map with 0 turns. DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066805800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleg_aka_djmeg Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 turismo has a crazy flow, and i find it more comfortable to race with than zenpоrno. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066808785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Depends who you race against. If you're in a racing crew then the Zentorno is a must. If its against randoms than the Entity, Turismo and possibly Infernus can be good enough. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066811876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo-seph Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Depends who you race against. If you're in a racing crew then the Zentorno is a must. If its against randoms than the Entity, Turismo and possibly Infernus can be good enough. exactly this, racing randoms as long as you can dodge the usual pile ups and pt attempts any car with a decent driver has a chance of winning. but if your racing against regualr drivers who race alot, then youve gotta be looking at a top 3 car to stay competative. so supers that zent, entity n adder (turismo is close but doesnt quite cut it for top 3). Sports its your mass, jester n elegy (feltzer is formidable fourth), after racing for over a year with a dedicated racing crew its a necessity to have a top seed car in every category Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066815244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Above Omnipotence Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Turismo has always been top 3 in the Super class when it comes to technical tracks, and on some of them it even outshines the Entity. The Adder isn't even in the top 4, it's only good for tracks with long straights. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066815921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo-seph Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Turismo has always been top 3 in the Super class when it comes to technical tracks, and on some of them it even outshines the Entity. The Adder isn't even in the top 4, it's only good for tracks with long straights. weve had this debate before and im not gonna be tempted with your "well you prove it" arguements again... ill say the only thing thats relevant from our previous debates on the matter, the "top 3" will always change depending on the drivers personal driving style... KingRyujin-- 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066816157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Above Omnipotence Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I don't recall us ever having this "debate". Facts are facts, your opinion doesn't override facts. The top 3 will never change UNLESS Rockstar decides the tweak the vehicles. By you saying the Adder is top 3 clearly shows that you don't race with good drivers. DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066816978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryday Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I would say, the Entity is the the easiest supercar -- good choice. The zentorno has the potential for the best lap times, but its definitly hard to handle, its just a beast. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066822215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikkelhansen Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 No. I almost always win with my fully modded Entity - and even if Custom Cars is disabled I often win with a stock Entity with all the other players usually using a stock Zentorno or stock Adder. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066823294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anidni Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Do muscle car, bike and classic sports races. So much more fun and you feel you drive a car, not a light weight styrofoam thinggie. Nitty Don 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066826567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryday Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 No. I almost always win with my fully modded Entity - and even if Custom Cars is disabled I often win with a stock Entity with all the other players usually using a stock Zentorno or stock Adder. because its the easiest to drive, if you choose between adder, zentorno and entity Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066827572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Above Omnipotence Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 mikkelhansen, WHO do you race against? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066828813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikkelhansen Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 mikkelhansen, WHO do you race against? Varies. Level 30s, level 100s, level 300s, level 600s... Why? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066829227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeederX96 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No. As long as you are a good driver, you'll pass by Zentorno drivers crashing into everything. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066847141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3tro1tDi3sl420 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Braking IS!!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1066847145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz9000 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 A good Zentorno driver will leave an entity for dust. There arnt many of us though I had an entity xf and I would have to work hard to beat a good zen driver the entity xf served me well but all good things must come to an end RIP overflod Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1067060248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dondara Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It makes sense to start with what is recognized as the fastest car but you have to be able to drive it. I like a grippy car w/ very little oversteer. I like to keep the speed through the corners. The Zen is a bit too much work sometimes. I think the Tourismo has the best balance. Most of the feedback from these cars is perception, you really have to drive them all. No car is perfect, R* ha to put an Achilles heel in there somewhere. Honestly, racing supers is boring, well, against the average a-hole who thinks racing is ramming, it is. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/760667-is-the-zentorno-a-must-for-winning-super-races/#findComment-1067226581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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