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BRITLAND

UK Politics & Current Affairs Discussion & DIY Home Improvement Thread

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Captain VXR

I found this quite surprising. click the greens have a lower ratio of ethnic minority candidates than all the "main" political parties, including UKIP. Top f*cking kek.

9.3% of UKIP MEPs have been to prison. Does this mean that UKIP is a party that represents criminals?

http://ampp3d.mirror.co.uk/2014/05/20/ukip-meps-are-more-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-romanians/

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I found this quite surprising. click the greens have a lower ratio of ethnic minority candidates than all the "main" political parties, including UKIP. Top f*cking kek.

9.3% of UKIP MEPs have been to prison. Does this mean that UKIP is a party that represents criminals?

http://ampp3d.mirror.co.uk/2014/05/20/ukip-meps-are-more-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-romanians/

They were charged with being too patriotic

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GTA_stu

Miliband has ruled out a coalition with the SNP. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31906463

 

Interesting move. I wonder if it was down to some sort of ideological or moral thing, what with the SNP being against the idea of a United Kingdom, or at least a whole one. Or whether they sounded them out behind closed doors and realised the SNP would ask for too much. Because Labour were quite keen not to rule it out, until today. I wonder what made them decide to formally rule it out now.

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Miliband has ruled out a coalition with the SNP. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31906463

 

Interesting move. I wonder if it was down to some sort of ideological or moral thing, what with the SNP being against the idea of a United Kingdom, or at least a whole one. Or whether they sounded them out behind closed doors and realised the SNP would ask for too much. Because Labour were quite keen not to rule it out, until today. I wonder what made them decide to formally rule it out now.

They just ruled out a coalition, as did the SNP with any party a month or something back.

 

Labour still haven't ruled out a confidence and supply deal with the SNP, or an other deals with them ;)

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Pete4000uk

Salmond has been making it quite clear the SNP will be nothing more than trouble makers if they get any power whatsoever. The best I can hope for is another Con/Libdem coalition.

 

Its going to be a very interesting post election time again

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BRITLAND

Salmond has been making it quite clear the SNP will be nothing more than trouble makers if they get any power whatsoever. The best I can hope for is another Con/Libdem coalition.

 

Its going to be a very interesting post election time again

Destroying the system from within ;)

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Smith John

Well after this evening's Channel 4's debate/discussion/whatever you want to call it, I think Cameron +1.

 

Red Ed looked completely drained with a shade of frustration and anger during the Paxman grilling after his utter awkward failure with the audience interaction, despite him obviously becoming aware of this and trying to regain some composure whilst being faced with Paxman's squinting horse-face. And to think, the guy had the advantage of appearing second on stage.

 

The guy just looked plain weak.

 

There's still much to go during the campaign, but I mean, Christ, the thought of Miliband leading our country after this performance- not least with the prospect of his strings being pulled by a certain fat West Lothian fish- is truly terrifying at this point.

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BRITLAND

Well after this evening's Channel 4's debate/discussion/whatever you want to call it, I think Cameron +1.

 

Red Ed looked completely drained with a shade of frustration and anger during the Paxman grilling after his utter awkward failure with the audience interaction, despite him obviously becoming aware of this and trying to regain some composure whilst being faced with Paxman's squinting horse-face. And to think, the guy had the advantage of appearing second on stage.

 

The guy just looked plain weak.

 

There's still much to go during the campaign, but I mean, Christ, the thought of Miliband leading our country after this performance- not least with the prospect of his strings being pulled by a certain fat West Lothian fish- is truly terrifying at this point.

I actually felt sorry for Miliband. It was plain obvious there was strong bias from Kay Burly which honestly isn't a surprise since she's a Sky News reporter. I didn't see the need for the questions over Ed and his brother nor the "London Geek" comment from Pax. If this was their best attempt at preventing a Labour Government I think it could backfire.

 

However his comment of Obama being the leader of the free world and standing up to him over Syria made me cringe.

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Smith John

Granted horseface's (Paxman, not Miliband) "London Geek" jab was unnecessary, I think the questions regarding his relationship with his brother were and are warranted. I mean, if it takes this long for him to heal a quarrel within his own family, what does that tell us about his leadership capabilities on both the domestic and world stage?

 

Whatever happens, I just don't want to see the SNP anywhere near Westminster in a governing cabinet.

 

During the brief spell of time I dedicated towards viewing their conference yesterday before smashing the c*nt out of my remote's standby button in frustration, one of their members being interviewed was hinting at another independence referendum during the latter stages of the next parliament should they be a part of the next government.

 

So much for this 'Once in a generation opportunity' emotionally-charged rhetoric applied by these bastards leading up to Sep '14.

 

God I f*cking detest the SNP.

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BRITLAND

Granted horseface's (Paxman, not Miliband) "London Geek" jab was unnecessary, I think the questions regarding his relationship with his brother were and are warranted. I mean, if it takes this long for him to heal a quarrel within his own family, what does that tell us about his leadership capabilities on both the domestic and world stage?

 

Whatever happens, I just don't want to see the SNP anywhere near Westminster in a governing cabinet.

 

During the brief spell of time I dedicated towards viewing their conference yesterday before smashing the c*nt out of my remote's standby button in frustration, one of their members being interviewed was hinting at another independence referendum during the latter stages of the next parliament should they be a part of the next government.

 

So much for this 'Once in a generation opportunity' emotionally-charged rhetoric applied by these bastards leading up to Sep '14.

 

God I f*cking detest the SNP.

It appears from the interviews now that Miliband came out the best from public opinion, Labour now got a 4 point lead over the Tories, (36%-32%). I'm really not a fan of Miliband nor a majority of his shadow cabinet ie Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Barbie Bus PIE associated H Harman, Andy Burnham etc, though I do like Chucka Ummuna. David Cameron I would want to like him but his refusal of doing the purposed debates has really put me off him completely, and his cabinet aren't much better than Labour ie Osbourne, Theresa May, bloody Ian Duncan Smith. As of now choosing Tory or Labour is like deciding how you want to die, engulfed in flames or drowning in the cold Atlantic ocean.

 

Rant over.

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Smith John

Chuka Umunna is actually one of the few Labour MPs I respect, despite his defiant stance against the criticism rightfully directed towards the racist remarks of his colleague, Diane-champagne socialist-Abbott. Still, I'd really rather not see a Labour government, especially with an SNP partner. Other than the obviously non-event of an SNP/Green front bench, a Labour/SNP alliance is probably the worst outcome I could've hoped for. And unlike the former disastrous scenario, this one is a very real prospect.

 

As somebody who voted 'No' at last year's referendum, and as somebody who is as far from an SNP supporter as you can get, it really cremates my piss to see this attitude displayed by them that they are Scotland's voice. They are NOT Scotland's voice. Their membershipay have increased dramatically of recent, but this is a representation of f*ck-all as far as I'm concerned.

 

E. I swear to god, I'm going to hunt down the designer of the auto-correct facility on this sh*tty phone, and lock him in a room with Diane Abbott, Harriet Harman, Nicola Sturgeon, and the panelists from Loose Women.

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BRITLAND

My hope for this election (as of now) is that in the event of a hung parliament that the Conservatives form a minority Government but with David Cameron resigning within a year, replaced by either Theresa May or Boris Johnson, prob Theresa May who would get the job. Then for labour hopefully Chuka Umunna becomes the new Labour leader and can convince me to return to Labour come 2020 with the likes of Cooper, Balls and Harman gone. At the end of the day my view is that the Tories this time are the best of a bad lot. With them in a minority Government, even with someone like Theresa May as Prime Minister, they can't do too much damage like the bloody Snooper's Charter for instance.

 

I'd hate to have a Labour Government at it's current rate. Labour minority Government would be horrific, a Labour majority would be very horrific, a Labour/SNP deal I guess would be less horrific as long as it meant more power for the Scottish Parliament, Welsh and NI Assemblies and the creation of an English parliament. I'm a strong supporter of Federalism and feel this would benefit the UK hugely, but I cant see it happening sadly.

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Svip

That Cameron. He sure knows how to do diplomacy. He is terrified of UKIP, so he is faking his Euroscepticism. Whenever UKIP pulls ahead in the polls, Cameron is out being 'tough on EU'. But there is nothing concrete to this. He has promised a referendum on EU-membership if he wins (but not what it will actually contain; full redraw? Renegotiation? Or something else?), but hasn't made any clearer points.

 

In fact, this is becoming a bit annoying with the other European leaders. EU President Donald Tusk has asked Cameron for a clear wish list of things he want while renegotiating the UK's EU membership. It's hard to negotiate when you don't know what the other part wants. Earlier Germany and France seemed willing to help the UK in their endeavour. But with Cameron's lack of concrete wishes, Merkel has told Cameron in confidence that she can't help, and after Cameron compared Labour to the French Socialist Party and how they would plummet Britain into the current French state, Hollande is not exactly interested in helping the UK anymore.

 

More amusingly, Cameron and the Tories commissioned a report called 'Britain's Future in Europe'. The result was a 3,000 page report with no conclusion. Or rather, with the conclusion removed. It appears that the conclusion was something the Tories couldn't use, because it declared that any power to regained from Brussels would be pointless or it had already been regained; the power balance between Brussels and London was fine.

 

Effectively, Cameron is faking his Euroscepticism to appease a number of Brits and is playing a high stakes game without a clear strategy. Moreover, in doing so, he is damaging the UK's relationship with its allies. Bothering the EU in general, upsetting the French and now annoying the Americans by joining the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, that the US strongly opposes.

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Pete4000uk

...upsetting the French...

That's never a problem though, is it?

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Svip

 

...upsetting the French...

That's never a problem though, is it?

 

 

It is, if you are trying to get their support.

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BRITLAND

looking forward to the debate tonight on ITV, wonder who will come on top. Knowing the Tory media here in Britain they will do all in their power to make Cameron look like the winner. I think in the opinion of the public, Farage will come out on top, then Nicola Sturgeon coming in second. Bennett will have another car crash moment, no one will want to listen or care about Clegg, Cameron will be better prepared than last week and Miliband will do better than what most expect but not to the point where he wins out of the seven, I think he will do better than Cameron, Clegg and Bennett. I have no idea on how Leanne Wood of Plaid Cymru will do, any Welsh have any points to say about her as a leader?

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hoopz71

BoRiS

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Smith John

Really looking forward to this evening's debate; I've been waiting for this for weeks, many of which we still didn't know if we'd even get one. Although I can't help but notice the BBC keep harping on about the debate not having much of an affect or influence on the electorate in general. I personally find this to be an absurd assumption, which further leads me to question if there's something they're afraid of.

 

I mean, look how Clegg faired after the '10 TV debates and he eventually became deputy PM. I'm not saying his performances on the debates were the sole contributing factor, but can anyone honestly claim it/they held no sway in him getting into such a position?

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BRITLAND

Really looking forward to this evening's debate; I've been waiting for this for weeks, many of which we still didn't know if we'd even get one. Although I can't help but notice the BBC keep harping on about the debate not having much of an affect or influence on the electorate in general. I personally find this to be an absurd assumption, which further leads me to question if there's something they're afraid of.

 

I mean, look how Clegg faired after the '10 TV debates and he eventually became deputy PM. I'm not saying his performances on the debates were the sole contributing factor, but can anyone honestly claim it/they held no sway in him getting into such a position?

You could argue that the lib Dems did worse as in 2005 they won like 61 or 64 seats, more than in 2010, so in a way they did worse, though maybe they would of done worse if the Clegg factor wasnt considered.

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Smith John

"though maybe they would of done worse if the Clegg factor wasnt considered."

 

Er, that was pretty much my point.

 

So the left-leaning audience members couldn't adhere to the 'no applauding rule'

 

Let's see how they manage themselves now that the issue is immigration. Let's hope during the break they were reminded of this rule.

 

*sorry for any grammar mishaps; need to back to listening to this.

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Smith John

Well, early polls suggest Sturgeon won it, followed by Farage. If the impartial polls continue to reflect this, then I'm very much looking forward to the BBC's OWN spin on the debate. And by 'spin' I mean f*cking terrified correspondence.

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Zondar

Baaaaaaaaaaa!

Och aye the nooooooooo!

Hell yes!

I agree with Nick!

What's occurring?

White people.

Oops, I've just wet myself.

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GTA_stu

Urgh that Leanne Wood. "You're dangerous and should feel ashamed of yourself" stupid cow, part of the irritating crowd that try to silence debate on immigration by crying racism and bigotry. She had the best smile by far though, hers actually seemed warm and genuine, Sturgeon's was ok, whereas all the others acted like they were having their prostates examined. Especially Miliband and Bennet.

 

Nobody won I don't think, or nobody outperformed anyone else to any great degree. Maybe Farage just pipped it. Bennet did the worst, Leanne Wood wasn't far behind. Clegg did ok, he's a good natural speaker. Cameron did alright too. Miliband did ok considering he's at a massive disadvantage with his total lack of charisma, but he was behind the other main leaders I felt.

 

I thought it was decent overall, the format and everything was good, and the presenter held it together really well and kept it ticking over nicely. Would have liked there to have been a question on defence/foreign policy or for it to have been touched on but it wasn't, apart from Sturgeon's "We need to scrap our nuucleear weponss and invest in our children" garbage.

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Smith John

Yep, didn't take long for our BBC friends to administer their "impartial" analysis. They just acknowledged Farage's viewer-opinionated success by following it with the usual 'but' assessment. Christ, can they just for once say it how it is when it comes to UKIP? And I'm speaking as someone who has yet to make up my mind on who to vote for, so no bias viewpoint from here, but they sure as sh*t love to neutralise any positivity towards UKIP as soon as it arises in the public eye.

 

Oh, and The Guardian suggests a Miliband victory. Surprise f*cking surprise.

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BRITLAND

"though maybe they would of done worse if the Clegg factor wasnt considered."

 

Er, that was pretty much my point.

I was just adding to conservation :(, some people claim the Lib Dems did worse than before as they technically lost seats, with Clegg's popularity in 2010 people most expected a larger gain for them but instead they got a decrease in seats. Technically they did worse. That's likely the reason why he turned back on the public on tuition fees :p

 

Anyway back on topic Nicola seems to be crowned the winner by most polls, Farage coming second. I was quite surprised by Bennett, I was expecting pure car crash telly from her but was pleasantly surprised by her performance, though according to the polls she didn't impress many. Leanne Wood also unpopular in the polls. I thought she did alright, though she spoke too much about Wales whereas Nicola did at least make appeals to the rest of the UK in supporting them over various issues, perhaps that was the factor, anyway I thought she did better than Cameron and Miliband so a bit sad to see her at the bottom.

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Smith John

I was just adding to conservation

Yeah, sorry mate. It was during the halfway break of the debate that I chose to read and respond to you, and when doing so, the break seemed to be much quicker than I anticipated, to which point I felt rushed to wrap it up so I could get back to hearing what these people had to say.

 

That along with having to use my phone as a means to post at the moment makes it even more of a pain in the arse...not least when the autocorrect is more of an annoyance than an assistance.

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It would have been more of a car crash for Bennett if the others would have attacked her and targeted her, but they didn't because she's obviously not a threat and they were focused on targets that matter like David Cameron or Ed Miliband. She could pretty much just talk about what she wanted and had planned, nobody was interested in really challenging her. Tbh I think she was well aware that the others could decapitate her with one swipe of their paws, because she never really challenged anyone herself. She was on the periphery and I don't remember her talking unless the presenter directly asked her a question. She didn't jump in on things spontaneously like all of the others. She was by far the most cautious and just stuck to her talking points.

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Svip

According to FiveThirtyEight's predictions (which tends to be very accurate), Labour and the Tories will get about the same number of seats. SNP will propel forward and the LibDems backwards. A Labour/SNP/LibDem government does not seem unlikely in this scenario. UKIP stands to lose one of its two seats.

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Clem Fandango

Urgh that Leanne Wood. "You're dangerous and should feel ashamed of yourself" stupid cow, part of the irritating crowd that try to silence debate on immigration by crying racism and bigotry

You are racist and a bigot. Anyone who supports UKIP is. How else can you look at a world of massive inequality, discrimination constant war and go "yep, the problem here is pakis, innit"

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Urgh that Leanne Wood. "You're dangerous and should feel ashamed of yourself" stupid cow, part of the irritating crowd that try to silence debate on immigration by crying racism and bigotry

You are racist and a bigot. Anyone who supports UKIP is. How else can you look at a world of massive inequality, discrimination constant war and go "yep, the problem here is pakis, innit"

 

 

Huh, and here I thought it was they poles the had a problem with.

 

I'm sure there are many racist supporters of UKIP, but to just accuse anyone who supports UKIP of being racist and a bigot is absurd.

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