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BRITLAND

UK Politics & Current Affairs Discussion & DIY Home Improvement Thread

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Uncle Sikee Atric
14 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

Because he's "the architect" of it, apparently.

 

But that issues you with another problem.

Since he's been so frugal with the truth about his whereabouts and actions during lockdown, resulting in the actions today, how can you be so confident he's also accurate about Brexit, or is he being frugal with the detail there too to hide the reality?

 

Everything Cummings has touched has been cast into doubt, because he's tried hiding actions before.

 

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ilovebender.com
5 minutes ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

 

But that issues you with another problem.

Since he's been so frugal with the truth about his whereabouts and actions during lockdown, resulting in the actions today, how can you be so confident he's also accurate about Brexit, or is he being frugal with the detail there too to hide the reality?

 

Everything Cummings has touched has been cast into doubt, because he's tried hiding actions before.

 

Not really.

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Uncle Sikee Atric
10 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

Not really.

If that is the level of your counter to my point, I'll take that for everything you're not saying.

I'm right, but you're too scared to admit it.

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20 hours ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

If that is the level of your counter to my point, I'll take that for everything you're not saying.

I'm right, but you're too scared to admit it.

What I didn't say, you can take as everything 'not said' is;

 

I think it's desperation on the part of remainers given he's been branded as the architect of Brexit to be politicising this in a vain attempt to remove him from his post and the notion this somehow shakes my trust in him is crazy and I support him being unapologetic for doing it.

Given every opposition attempt to out him over what, breaking lock down to take care of his children casts everything remainers say into doubt because I see it as it being used for political gain only in an attempt to remove him.

I view him like I view cabinet ministers and indeed the prime minister who he advises, as key workers, who if the lady at Tesco can leave her house, then so can Cummings, if the lady in Tesco near me had to drive her kid to a family member in Durham (she's a key worker, why not), then so be it; it's just an attempt to politicise this issue for your own means to try and out him and casts a shadow of doubt into the credibility of those who try and polticise this for their own gain, the character of those who report people who break lock down (no good finks ruining the country) and members of the public who target his home ought to be locked up for harassment and being a mob. 

 

or, to not go into much detail at the claim you say that 'everything he touches has been cast into doubt', I say to that

'Not really'.

 

Ironically, everyone who targets and harasses, reports or tries to politicise this, their actions prompt everything THEY touch, to be cast into doubt, either politicising this for their own poltical gains, or for reporting their neightbours for travelling to the police or being a mob and targeting his home to add insult to the tyranny of their reporting of free citizens like they were wanted by the police.

 

21 hours ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:


Since he's been so frugal with the truth about his whereabout

He doesn't answer to the public, why should he announce where he's going when he doesn't want people knowing it; it's bad enough his home address in London was in the news, why would he want them knowing about his parent's place?

Surely you can respect his privacy and not have him announce where he's going.

 

I bet you'd be 'frugal with the truth' if an undesirable wanted to know where you or your parents lived too.

First you deny the EU is like the USSR, then you want to harass people for going about their business, and now you want know where his family lives so you can keep tabs in him there?

 

You're what's wrong with Europe @Uncle Sikee Atric, no idea of freedom or respect for another's privacy and private life.

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Uncle Sikee Atric
36 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

What I didn't say, you can take as everything 'not said' is;

 

I think it's desperation on the part of remainers given he's been branded as the architect of Brexit to be politicising this in a vain attempt to remove him from his post and the notion this somehow shakes my trust in him is crazy and I support him being unapologetic for doing it.

 

So it's okay for him to flout lockdown rules he helped to create, yet you follow them under the prospect of fines from the Police if you don't?  You're one hell of a hypocrite! 

This isn't about any part of Brexit, it's about the rule of law, plain and simple.

 

36 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

Given every opposition attempt to out him over what, breaking lock down to take care of his children casts everything remainers say into doubt because I see it as it being used for political gain only in an attempt to remove him.

I view him like I view cabinet ministers and indeed the prime minister who he advises, as key workers, who if the lady at Tesco can leave her house, then so can Cummings, if the lady in Tesco near me had to drive her kid to a family member in Durham (she's a key worker, why not), then so be it; it's just an attempt to politicise this issue for your own means to try and out him and casts a shadow of doubt into the credibility of those who try and polticise this for their own gain,

 

Given the confirmed fact that family and support networks are available for childcare and cover issues, that's one hell of a moot argument you're making, especially since at least one family member was displaying Covid symptoms at the time of travel up to Durham.  Now you're displaying exactly why Tory rule is, 'one rule for the plebs, one rule for Tories.'

 

36 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

 

the character of those who report people who break lock down (no good finks ruining the country) and members of the public who target his home ought to be locked up for harassment and being a mob.

 

Buying into that sh*te are you?  You need to look carefully at who is really issuing threats of violence.  Now the right has targeted Bishops for speaking out against Cummings.

QUOTE :   Bishop of Worcester John Inge tweeted that he received an email warning “stay out of politics or we’ll kill you” after he criticised Boris Johnson’s “risible defence” of Mr Cummings on Sunday night.

Helen-Ann Hartley, the bishop of Ripon, reported a similar threat, posting: “‘Stay out of politics or it will be the death of you’ was one of the emails I received today. Thank you to those who have sent supportive messages.”

 

https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/national/18474151.cummings-criticism-sees-church-england-bishops-receive-death-threats/

 

(Given the similar wording here, it makes you think there's a group of loonies at work, and they're clearly Pro-Tory!)

 

36 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

 

 

or, to not go into much detail at the claim you say that 'everything he touches has been cast into doubt', I say to that

'Not really'.

 

If you believe every word Cummings say, you might as well just praise him when he pisses on your dinner and calls it delicious gravy.

 

36 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

Ironically, everyone who targets and harasses, reports or tries to politicise this, their actions prompt everything THEY touch, to be cast into doubt, either politicising this for their own poltical gains, or for reporting their neightbours for travelling to the police or being a mob and targeting his home to add insult to the tyranny of their reporting of free citizens like they were wanted by the police.

 

Depends where the lies come from, eh, did you spot the fact the day of the Barnard Castle trip, (where he strapped his family in a car and drove thirty miles to 'test his eyesight,') was Mrs Cummings birthday?  That's stinks rotten as to the reasoning for the trip to test eyesight while using a dangerous piece of equipment....

 

29 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

He doesn't answer to the public, why should he announce where he's going when he doesn't want people knowing it; it's bad enough his home address in London was in the news, why would he want them knowing about his parent's place?

Surely you can respect his privacy and not have him announce where he's going.

 

Everyone with a slight interest knows he's from Durham!  What's in doubt here is why he chose to sod off to his parents when he had less than zero reasons to do so.

 

29 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

 

I bet you'd be 'frugal with the truth' if an undesirable wanted to know where you or your parents lived too.

 

That depends.  My dad is a registered member of the local gun and clay pigeon shooting clubs, he can look after himself.

 

29 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

First you deny the EU is like the USSR, then you want to harass people for going about their business, and now you want know where his family lives so you can keep tabs in him there?

 

No, I want to know why he ran 265 miles across the UK, when the planning he'd issued and backed was, 'STAY AT HOME,' which for him is London?

 

29 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

 

You're what's wrong with Europe @Uncle Sikee Atric, no idea of freedom or respect for another's privacy and private life.

 

Says the man who shares his Instagram page like we haven't already seen what a sh*tty, crappy, pathetic little life he leads, yet he's happy for toe-curling press conferences to answer each and every one of the questions when it reality it made things even worse....

 

Take, for instance, the claim he was noting the pandemic risk for years before Covid-19 and it's on record he was.  Well it's on record, but the Wayback Machine really shows what's happened :

100510286_2546880202080640_5697112180697

 

I wonder if the IP address that made the adjustments locates to Durham?

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sivispacem
1 hour ago, ilovebender.com said:

the architect of Brexit

You still haven't explained why he's so vital given that Brexit is apparently done and dusted according to you.

 

48 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

First you deny the EU is like the USSR

The assertion they're anything alike is manifestly idiotic.

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21 minutes ago, sivispacem said:

The assertion they're anything alike is manifestly idiotic.

How is the EU Parliament not like the Supreme Soviet?

I say it is because the people with power get appointed and shoved around to do different roles and aren't accountable to the people whom they make laws for, and MEPs don't get to make new laws, just rubber stamp what 17 unelected/appointed people do.

I think the EU is a bloc like the USSR.

 

I'd understand if you were pro EU and wished for reforms to make it more democratic, but to be pro EU and to not want changes that make it more democratic and the leaders accountable, well that's USSR territory.  

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Uncle Sikee Atric
4 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

How is the EU Parliament not like the Supreme Soviet?

 

Because critics don't end up in a gulag for starters....

 

4 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

I say it is because the people with power get appointed and shoved around to do different roles and aren't accountable to the people whom they make laws for, and MEPs don't get to make new laws, just rubber stamp what 17 unelected/appointed people do.

 

Yet you're supporting Dominic Cummings, himself unelected and appointed as a Spin Doctor and Chief Advisor! 

You don't even need a shovel to dig your hole any deeper.

 

4 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

I think the EU is a bloc like the USSR.

 

Your opinion is like everything else to do with your life Comrade, crap!

 

4 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

 

I'd understand if you were pro EU and wished for reforms to make it more democratic, but to be pro EU and to not want changes that make it more democratic and the leaders accountable, well that's USSR territory.  

 

I am Pro-EU and wished for the UK to help shape reforms for the entire organisation.

 

You just never bothered asking before you started with, 'HuR, Dur, wHiNgInG rEmOaNeR!"

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3 minutes ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

I am Pro-EU and wished for the UK to help shape reforms for the entire organisation.

Well now that's France's job.

 

I'm glad we've left.

I just don't want to be a vassal to it.

 

I'm Pro-USA, I'd rather be a vassal to the US than to the EU; if independence is off the table.

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Uncle Sikee Atric
10 minutes ago, ilovebender.com said:

I'm Pro-USA, I'd rather be a vassal to the US than to the EU; if independence is off the table.

 

Independence isn't off the table, in Scotland NI, Wales and Gibraltar.  Only Little England will end up as the 51st state and totally alone in Europe, all because those with lower educations didn't understand the UK's place in the world.  Well done dumb, dumb!

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