OG Viking Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I have downloaded dinput8.dll and copied it to where I installed the game (C:\Program Files (x86)\GTA San Andreas). After a reboot the mouse is still not working in the game. I'm running the game in XP SP3 mode, and I'm running it as Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Using Win98 mode is supposed to fix the mouse problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Using Win98 mode is supposed to fix the mouse problem.I don't have Win98 mode in Windows 8.1, the oldest mode I have got is XP SP3. I don't know what to do. EDIT: Windows 8 do have compatibility modes for all Windows versions back to Windows 95, but not all those modes can be applied to all executables. For the v2.0 exe, I only get compatibility modes back to XP SP3, but on other programs more modes are available. On a compact San Andreas exe I downloaded, all modes back to W95 are available. Edited January 15, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) I have found a solution that sort of solves the mouse bug, but it doesn't always work for me. Make the game run one one processor only (set affinity in Task Manager). Some guy is explaining it in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tHC8kET3UU I have an Intel i7-4710HQ quad core mobile CPU, each core counts as two processors so I've got a total of 8 processors. - Often the mouse will work when I make the game run on only one processor. But far from always, the success rate is perhaps around 75%. - I have a few times had the mouse working when I ran the game on 2 and 4 processors, but not 5. - At least one time, the mouse didn't work on one processor, but it worked after I let the game run on 4 processors. - Another time, the mouse was working fine. Then I went into the graphics advanced menu and set WIDE SCREEN OFF. Then I resumed the game, and the mouse bug was back. I switched to WIDE SCREEN ON again, and the mouse worked fine again. - Some times, the mouse works fine in the game menus but not in-game. And I think I've had the opposite (works in-game but not in the game menus). So far I don't know of a way that always works, it seems to be random. Did San Andreas ever work well on a dual or quad core CPU? On Windows XP perhaps? I see that Intel started their line of dual core family in 2006 (I thought it was earlier), and the game was released a year earlier. Edited January 3, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If I remember correctly, SilentPatch (SA beta) includes my proper fix for the mouse issue. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 If I remember correctly, SilentPatch (SA beta) includes my proper fix for the mouse issue.Sounds interesting. But the topic you're linking to got 94 pages. What am I looking for there? Nothing related to San Andreas on the first couple of pages. I've got v2 of San Andreas and can't mod, and I figure a patch is basically a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I've got v2 of San Andreas and can't mod, and I figure a patch is basically a mod.The direct link is the specific download for the SA version - it supports various game versions, however sadly not 2.0, though if you look across the internet you'll find various attempts at 'downgraders' that replace the main executable with one more friendly to modding yet keeping the disc check intact. Oh, you'd also need an 'ASI loader' outside of that download link and a downgrader - again, some Google usage helps with that. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oh, you'd also need an 'ASI loader' outside of that download link and a downgrader - again, some Google usage helps with that.I've found the ASI loader, but what is it? They say it "adds ASI plugin loading functionality", but what does it mean in plain English?? I might downgrade before next play-through but it's too late this time. I see v2 and v1 save files are incompatible. Before I install unknown home-made code, I like to consider the risk. I've never seen you before and I don't easily trust strangers. However you seem to be a long standing member here, and it helps. You don't have a forum thread for your patch/mod, where other users have posted feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Back to some basics: You have the DVD game v2, and are playing with that DVD in the drive. You have set the quad core "Affinity" to "0". otherwise your machine meets or exceeds: • Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP processor (or better) • XP, Vista, Windows 7. • 384(+) MB of RAM • 16x DVD-ROM drive (or download [which I do not recommend] • 4.7 GB of free Hard Disk space for a full install • 128(+) MB Video Card with DirectX 9 compatible drivers ("GeForce4" or better) • DirectX 9 compatible Surround Sound Card • Keyboard & Mouse • <Optional> GamePad with twin axis analog controls (USB or Joystick Port) (Not a console controller) There is only One Official Patch [v1.01] strickly for the the First Edition issue of the game, it is already included in later published editions (v2 and v3). I understand that the STEAM download version is undergoing some *secret* revisions to remove music. Edited January 4, 2015 by lil weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I might downgrade before next play-through but it's too late this time. I see v2 and v1 save files are incompatible.These 'downgraders' tend to leave the script files alone, so your current save games would load fine. In addition, here's an easier way than downgrading: random old post containing a link that has been widespread around the forums for a long time now - it will add compatibility with mods, however your old save games will still work. You don't have a forum thread for your patch/mod, where other users have posted feedback?This particular patch set is maintained by Silent, who happens to be one of the section moderators for the modding area on here - the last few pages of the topic I linked earlier mainly discuss the San Andreas version, by the way. OG Viking 1 Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 True, seeing how you own 2.0 and not post-November patch Steam copies, grabbing a compact EXE is the best thing you can come up with. This way you'll still have your 2.0 SCM and saves will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) @lil weasel Yes to all that (except no gamepad). It's a new MSI gaming laptop that exceeds all those specs. I reckon the weakest link is the GeForce GT 840M, but it seems to run the game easily. These 'downgraders' tend to leave the script files alone, so your current save games would load fine. In addition, here's an easier way than downgrading: random old post containing a link that has been widespread around the forums for a long time now - it will add compatibility with mods, however your old save games will still work. Wait, this means there's no reason to downgrade, not even for modders? This way you'll still have your 2.0 SCM.Sorry, but I don't know what SCM means. Edit, I still hope someone can tell me what ASI is and what it does. Edited January 10, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 ASIs are unofficial plugins for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) ASIs are unofficial plugins for the game.I have reinstalled the game and added the Silent patch. I've got rid of the downloaded dinput8.dll file. But here's a malfunction report, in this case your patch isn't solving the mouse problem. For a day after installing the Silent patch, the mouse worked perfectly. Today it worked perfectly too, for about 1-2 hours. Then I got problems. Now, the mouse don't work in game menus without a quick change to the Windows desktop first. Each and every time I go to the menu for checking the map or whatever, the mouse won't work without swapping to desktop and back. In-game I have very little mouse problems, only a couple of times I had to swap to the game menu and back. EDIT: The mouse problem is in fact as common in-game as in the game menu. Edited January 15, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I might downgrade before next play-through but it's too late this time. I see v2 and v1 save files are incompatible. These 'downgraders' tend to leave the script files alone, so your current save games would load fine. In addition, here's an easier way than downgrading: random old post containing a link that has been widespread around the forums for a long time now - it will add compatibility with mods, however your old save games will still work. After replacing the original v2.0 8MB EXE with that 5MB compact one, all my save slots were empty. The only thing I could do was to put back the original v2.0 EXE so the game can detect my saved files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 They are in your Documents\GTA San Andreas User Files I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Save can sometimes be found in the Public/shared documents instead of the Users Documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) They are in your Documents\GTA San Andreas User Files I presume?Yes, that's where they are.I ran the compact exe in Windows 98 compatibility mode, if that helps rule out some possible causes for the problem. Edited January 15, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I ran the compact exe in Windows 98 compatibility mode, if that helps rule out some possible causes for the problem.'Windows 98' compatibility mode changes the save path, indeed. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) I ran the compact exe in Windows 98 compatibility mode, if that helps rule out some possible causes for the problem. 'Windows 98' compatibility mode changes the save path, indeed. So should I move the save files to where the game looks for them (where would that be?), or should I run the game in a different compatibility mode? I want the game to run as well as possible, and preferably without having to set CPU affinity each time. Please also tell me if I need to take further steps to make old save files work with the compact exe, thank you. Edited January 16, 2015 by OG Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just do not run the EXE in compatibility mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just do not run the EXE in compatibility mode.The compact EXE won't even launch without a compatibility mode. I'm running as XP SP2, it works and it looks for saved games in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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