Mr_Leone Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thought he was a good guy who was loyal to his brothers and cared for the people he loved until the end. What's the deal? Why is he so low on peoples list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips237 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 A lot of people here on GTAF like him actually. Don't like him, since I never played TLAD. Mr_Leone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnits Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) He's my #3, under Nicky Boy and that mute asshole, so I like him, but I'm sure you aren't looking for this type of answer I suppose It's because they can't look under his ravaged, drug-addled exterior to find his heart of a reactionary prick. Otherwise, he'd fit right in, and they would love him. Edited December 30, 2014 by TheKillerDonuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Leone Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 He's my #3, under Nicky Boy and that mute asshole, so I like him, but I'm sure you aren't looking for this type of answer I'm not looking for any kind of answer pal. Get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 There's something called opinions. don ovdi' island and Drunken Cowboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UshaB Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Probably biker hate? Mr_Leone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Leone Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 There's something called opinions.....and I'm looking for those opinons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnits Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm not looking for any kind of answer pal. Get over yourself. Calm your tits. It was a joke. Drunken Cowboy, The Dedito Gae and theGTAking101 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe people are not fond of the biker culture, they are Trevor fanboys or maybe they find him boring (guilty) I don't hate him (same as any gta character) but i would have prefered to Johnny being more of a jerk or/and a psycho, when i found out that we were playing as biker in TLAD i got really happy, i won't say i ended up dissapointed with the experience but i was expecting something else from johnny, he ended up being too similar to Niko for me, i would had prefered to experience another type of ctiminal more lowlife and hellraiser, more akin to the biker culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Viking Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I dare say he's my second favorite protag after Niko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I dare say he's my second favorite protag after Niko. "Brothers For Life, Lost Forever!". Drunken Cowboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManCrimeWave Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Being honest, he was just bland, boring and uninteresting for me. Nothing was unique about him and I don't see how he qualifies as a supposed "badass" that everyone calls him. Edited December 30, 2014 by OneManCrimeWave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I get the impression CJ, Luis and Trevor are all generally more disliked than Johnny. Anyway he's no Niko or Tommy, but I like him. As you said he's loyal which is a trait I love in protagonists. theGTAking101 and Nopheros 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I get the impression CJ, Luis and Trevor are all generally more disliked than Johnny. Anyway he's no Niko or Tommy, but I like him. As you said he's loyal which is a trait I love in protagonists. Johnny is more loyal to his friends than Michael, that is for certain. J didn't abandon his friends when the sh*t hit the fan. matajuegos01 and theGTAking101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachrocks Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think cus he came after Niko and the fact he wasn't a stereotype is what hurt his popularity. Whether people care to admit it or not, people love generalisations and easy to understand characters. Johnny K however on the surface is a 'whiny loser' with a bunch of generic looking friends who do stuff. However Johnny K is in my opinion the deepest gta iv/V protagonist comfortably, yes even more so than Niko who I agree while a good character, he isn't as deep as people think. A lot of the detail however either goes over people's heads or they haven't interacted enough with Terry, Clay and Jim. One particular quote was spoken about on the tlad forum about what it actually meant and these guys are tlad fans and some didn't quite get the meaning. I refer to Johnny's response to Leavis when he asks Johnny about how his giving the finger to the man. Point being these are people who bothered... Heaven help the dumb majority that doesn't which of course works against Johnny's popularity. Still the backlash over him being 'written out' because the bad fan fiction character said so is very much real. B Dawg, Algonquin Assassin, Niobium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranceking26 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I like Johnny K, I enjoyed TLAD. I just didn't like what he became in the years between IV and V. Kampret 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Ronson Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Because people are able to not like things, it's as simple as that, but maybe because TLAD wasn't as exciting for some as TBOGT was, so even if the character is good story wise some people might get a bad impression from him gameplay wise for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 sh*tty, boring, depressive character that wasted 100 hours of my time 'redeeming' himself, only to find that a few years later, he's back on meth and getting a stomping from the only protag worse than him. That's why, for me. OneManCrimeWave and slowburn29 2 Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 sh*tty, boring, depressive character that wasted 100 hours of my time 'redeeming' himself, only to find that a few years later, he's back on meth and getting a stomping from the only protag worse than him. That's why, for me. Cool. I'm sure Trevor is a better character. theGTAking101 and Majestic81 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoleInTheSky Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'd like to ask Rockstar the same thing. theGTAking101, Majestic81, Niobium and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Cool. I'm sure Trevor is a better character. ...a stomping from the only protag worse than him. Naw, he isnae. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) There's something called opinions. I'm baffled by this. People don't like JK because "there's something called opinions?" Why even bother spaming the thread with this nonsense? I'll admit, I didn't finish TLATD but I will soon. I liked JK and the story because it was reminding me of Sons of Anarchy so I can't give a good answer. However people seem to use his drug use as a sort of excuse... However I think that's only in defence when people were pissed off that he got his head stomped in. "So what he was a druggie" I don't know, I like JK but I also liked seeing his demise. People come and go. I actually said a long time ago that I'd love to kill a protagonist from a previous GTA but I was thinking of something a little more ceremonious than the Trevor thing. Seemed like a cheap thrill. Gone off topic, sorry Edited December 30, 2014 by Mister Pink Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 He was one of my best GTA protags. But the reasons for what the OP is asking may be various; -they didn`t play TLAD -TLAD is only a short DLC with 22 main missions and they don`t even consider him that important -they`ve played V before TLAD so they just couldn`t loose that feel of Johnny is being pussy in V -they hate bikers or heavy metal music Those could be the reasons. Fortunately i`ve played TLAD before V so that didn`t change my good opinion on Johnny. He will always be one of the most charismatic GTA protagonists with great voice acting. Maxxeine, Kampret, Drunken Cowboy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Being honest, he was just bland, boring and uninteresting for me. Nothing was unique about him and I don't see how he qualifies as a supposed "badass" that everyone calls him. Why Johnny was a badass? To me because he had a strong personality, he was smart and loyal but yet he was the man of authority. He didn`t take no crap from nobody, not even from Billy in the begining when Billy was still the chapter leader. He had balls, infact he was so brave that he didn`t give a sh*t if he dies. This is confirmed by his own quotations during the shootouts; "I don`t care if i die" "let`s get this over with" "kill me already" Now if this isn`t a badass than i don`t know what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorSpeed914 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 It's not Johnny K but both of the DLC games feeling lackluster. I enjoyed riding around on a bike in Lost and Damned, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyTwitter Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I completely understand why people like Johnny and love the whole biker theme, but he just doesn't appeal to me that much other than being a badass biker. The only time I truly liked his character was when he was talking to Stubbs' butler and stuff like that. I'm just one idiot with one opinion, so Johnny can be your favorite, but he's just not my type of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh-n-Bone Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I really can't comment on him because I never played TLAD. But I can say that from what I've seen, he's nowhere near as entertaining as Trevor for me to leave a bad impression on T because of that cutscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Simple, Anti-Semitism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Leone Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Simple, Anti-SemitismKlebitz the Heb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Simple, Anti-SemitismI hope you are joking. Drunken Cowboy and Luddite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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