PROOFED & RARE vehicle discussion

[Lethal Vaccine]

Don't forget the FCR in the same Mission as the Boxville.

 

The Maverick is easy. No wanted levels, nobody shooting at you. It's just you (CJ) and the ambiance of San Fierro surrounding you. Nothing to worry about other than shooting it slowly off the Helipad. It's like a 2 star difficulty. People rate it higher simply cuz it takes 25-60 minutes to shoot off, but I always do it within 25-35 minutes, which isn't long.

 

Something that is long is the H/TP/EC Banshee in LCS, which can take MINIMUM 1 hour and 45 minutes up to 3 hours. No Special Vehicle in the history of GTA takes as long as that. I have 1 more Slot free (Slot 8) and may do ONE last Save and get this, as well as the BP/EP/FP Speeder, but not until I finish VCS 3 Saves. I started today and did Vigilante Level 15 in the Starter Save and now have the fullest 49.20% VCS Starter Save! Off Topic, I know, but oh well. I love GTA and all the 3D Era!

[Fooking Rekt]

@Militia You have the Solid White One. I just checked your save

[Lethal Vaccine]

Yeah?! Awesome! Nice! Once my friend HeroBrineR007 sends me the Save back, I will then pass EotL and post the Save! Still waiting on that

[DragonpokeZ]

Got the BP/FP/EP/MP Patriot today and had to stop playing

[Lethal Vaccine]

Quite easy one to get You just tow it to the Garage once it stops in San Fierro.

 

I finished the Mobile Save finally, even though it should of been done 4 days ago. HeroBrine finally got back to me. I am taking the Photos shortly and then gonna post the Save to the Forum. Love this EC SOLID WHITE Camper. Looks the best...Really unique looking...

 

70.00% through my first of three VCS Saves, as well, lol...Only been 2 days...I fly...

Edited October 16, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

I got it by saving at Ganton and ramming it until it stopped

[Lethal Vaccine]

I just follow it to San Fierro. I don't have room in Los Santos...

 

Anyways, here is the EC White Camper and my Save is posted...

 

Edited October 16, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

My save's garages got corrupted D: I lost half of my vehicles. I have to restart :c Will post when I get on with it again

[Lethal Vaccine]

Lol...Wtf...Why doesn't this happen to me?! I may lose a Vehicle here and there, but nothing serious ever happens and on my latest playthrough for PS2, I didn't have any problems. On both my old and new iOS Save, I didn't lose anything, either...

 

I can only imagine a corrupt Save if you use Mods, CLEO, and things of that nature. Plus...Don't you make a backup? It's the smart thing to do and all...

 

Anyways, I will finish my 1st of 3 VCS Saves today Took 5 days (today) to start and finish it. Onto the 2nd Save. The 3rd Save will be already 97%-ish, cuz I just gotta save in Slot 4 before I pass "In the Air Tonight" from my 2nd Save and obtain 12 Side Mission Special Vehicles, convert them all to EC Black, and then pass the final 3 Missions and that 3rd Save is done with The best 36 in VCS!

 

EDIT: 1st VCS Save complete and onto the 2nd. I am a rocket, I tell ya...

Edited October 19, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Lol, my backup's garages also got corrupted, so the properties got lost :c Even then, I've decided that I would do 2 savefiles: one with as many Gray Imported vehicles as possible and no other special vehicles and one with no Gray Imported vehicles (besides the ECs obtainable before Gray Imports) but otherwise every single special vehicle, except for ones that are outclassed and ISVs (for example, FP, BP/FP, or FP/EP/DP Greenwood wouldn't be obtained, instead AP Greenwood would be obtained. I also wouldn't obtain the 3 AP Admirals for example, only one of them). That way I have room for everything I want to get! (and also I won't be scrambling for space early on)

 

PS: I also won't get those useless FPs only

Edited October 20, 2015 by DragonpokeZ

[Lethal Vaccine]

Good luck! But when it comes to SA, I try my best to have ONE Save File with ALL the Special Vehicles possible. 57 isn't even that many since others have 60-75 (69+ is using Impounds), but I got ALL the mandatory ones on ONE Save File except the DP/EP/FP/MP Police and DP/EP/FP/MP BF-400. Those are the only 2 I wish I had in my PS2 Save, but even with those 2, I'd have 59. I could add in the EC White Camper, too, to make 60, but since it's only a few Special Vehicles, I don't care to do it all over for these 3. I got them on Mobile which is good enough. This is my only Garage I really care for on Mobile (AP Feltzer, AP Sultan, DP/EP/FP/MP Police, and DP/EP/FP/MP BF-400):

 

[DragonpokeZ]

Doing my 2 saves method I come out with a grand total of... 84 vehicles! 21 of which will be Gray Imported. When you think about it, that's a goddamned 25% of it, and not all the vehicles are all that useful

[Lethal Vaccine]

Ah, 2 Saves. I read it as 3

 

I really have a tough time caring for EP/FP Gray Imports Vehicles. I only do that on Mobile simply cuz there is nothing else to obtain, literally. Out of the whole Mobile Save I only have 18 Special Vehicles. 11 of them are EP/FP Gray Imports Vehicles and I don't really care for any of them. I just have them just to have them. I wouldn't drive any around or anything like that. Then I got an EP Mule which again is useless as well as a useless FP/EC Remington, not to mention the useless EC Camper. However it does look pretty cool in solid White. That is why I put the Feltzer, Sultan, Police, and BF-400 in the Verdant Meadows Garage. I save there after 100% and have the only 4 Special Vehicles I truly care about right next to me. The only one I actually like is the EP/FP Sea Sparrow, but I got it on PS2 and don't need it on Mobile of course. I had it in my old Mobile Save, but now I don't since it's on PS2 and I don't want any duplicates on Mobile compared to PS2. The only slightly duplicated Special Vehicle is an AP Feltzer, but the one on PS2 has the EC2 and the one on Mobile is from Millie and I just wanted it simply to complete the entire Jealous Girlfriend Catalog of AP Vehicles you can obtain (5 on PS2 and 1 on Mobile).

[OG Viking]

Dragon, you play on PC don't you? I would guess it's easy to manage backup files on PC.

 

It's another story on PS2. On PS2, all the saves are stored in the same file on the memory card. I wonder/suspect that if one save gets corrupted, the whole file (containing all save slots) will get corrupted.

 

I have used to think that saving in all 8 slots is almost as good as a backup because if something wrong happens on the latest save, I can just go back to the save before that. This have worked well so far, but all my problems have been missing vehicles and not a corrupted save.

 

But if the save gets corrupted, I may be screwed if I don't have a true backup on a different memory card.

 

I do make a backup on a different memory card, but I don't update the backup often. One thing I don't like is how all saves gets almost exactly the same time stamp. It's hard to know the order in which the saves were saved, and the save with the most recent time stamp (a few seconds newer than the rest) may not be the newest save.

The saves does mention the name of the last mission, but missions are not always done in the same order. And sometimes I have several saves carrying the same mission title.

Edited October 21, 2015 by OG Viking

[Lethal Vaccine]

Lol, I have ALL my GTA Saves for III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS, IV, TLaD, TBoGT, CW, and V on my PC, USB Drive, and 6 Memory Cards for the 3D Era GTA's. 1 Memory Card gets trashed, 5 others with the same exact Saves for III, VC, SA, LCS, and VCS on them Everything is on my PC and a USB Drive, too. Everything is safe on my PS3's Hard Drive and also my iPhone 6. I got so many Backups and nothing ever goes wrong. Hell...Nothing can EVER go wrong with that many Backups.

 

What you describe is strange on PS2. It has the Mission Names on PS3 through the Virtual Memory Cards as well as the Time and Date. Furthermore, when you are in-game and load a Save through the Pause Menu, it also has Dates and Times. As for SA, I only have Slot 1 used. Same for SA Mobile. Slot 1 and that's all. It's easy to make backups cuz my PS3 can recognize a USB Drive, unlike a PS2 (even though it has USB Ports). So lets say I continue to save in Slot 1, but something happens, I can load the Save on my USB Drive and remove the f*cked up Save off my PS3 and copy/paste the one from my USB Drive onto the PS3. It's plug and play, really. I do this for all GTA's, including iOS since it's easy to make a Backup. For iOS, I can just put my Phone plugged into the PC through a USB Port and then use a Program called iExplorer to "look" in my Phone and go to the Apps and copy/paste the Save onto my PC and the same applies for putting a Save back onto my Phone. It's really easy. I do all my PS2 Saves ON MY PS3, but then later, using the Memory Card Adapter, I then copy/paste the Saves from my PS3 Hard Drive onto the physical Memory Cards for PS2 and everything works like a charm on PS2, PS3, and iOS very easily.

 

But yeah, if playing on PC, no idea how something can get corrupt. It's so easy to make a backup on PC since you are ON THE PC where the game data is stored...

[Socalkev]

I have a question? Does this show if your 100% Complete in SA Ios? Cause I tried yesterday for nearly 5 hours 8pm-1am of constant reload getting onto the cop motorbike and no luck! Most NRG's i encountered where the normal ones and not the engineless one!

[OrionSR]

Sounds normal to me. 100% shouldn't matter other than now you got a couple more easy NRGs to mess with. My experience is, if the trick didn't work the first time then it probably isn't going to work.

[Lethal Vaccine]

 

 

Lol, why does he do it like that? He uses a Parachute in other Videos where the Vehicle needs a Parachute to destroy it. Not sure why he does this "other" method to destroy the Greenwood...

[fnxrak]

I have no idea but if i had to guess i would say to scare rioters at least in the beggining

[Lethal Vaccine]

But the Greenwood blows up with the Tahoma. Regardless, using a Parachute will explode the Greenwood thus "scaring" the Rioters. However, I don't think this is the reason cuz right after the Greenwood explodes, tons of Cops and Peds will spawn, although, in his Video, I don't see many of them when he starts to shoot it down the road. I also noticed he went the same route as you. f*ck that. That route is terrible. Hats off to you and the guy who use this route, but it's terrible. Going the route I take as the same guy from Russia who obtains the SWAT and Greenwood at the same time, you avoid literally 1/3 of the distance where the Greenwood sits during EotL and where you need to shoot it back to Ganton. It's a lot easier that way. I tried it around 10 times going this route in the Video and your route and always get annihilated by Peds with Pistols. To me, it's practically impossible going that route. Using the other route, once you get it down the stairs it's easy sailing all the way back to Ganton until you get into Ganton.

 

Also, in his AP/EC2 Feltzer Video, he says if you don't jump out of the Feltzer and let it roll into Glen Pond it doesn't keep the properties. Bullsh*t, as you, and myself, and countless others have Videos of simply driving it into Glen Pond and then pushing it out. He insists that the properties get deleted if you do it like that and don't jump out of the Feltzer and let it roll into Glen Pond. I don't like when people insist on something that isn't true.

 

jam8tone also claims that you can NOT obtain the AP Boxville unless you kill yourself and we all know this is false. You can even pass T-Bone Mendez and obtain it and have it keep the AP properties.

 

 

 

In this Video, watch where he shoots the SWAT. You just shoot it straight down that road that the Crack Palace is on, and then over the ledge and down the stairs. If you can do that, then the rest is easy until you reach Ganton Circle. I've only obtained the AP Greenwood twice in two separate playthroughs but this is the only route I recommend cuz the other one has you out in the open. See in this Video, how you cut across a grassy area as well as the freeway, both of which NO peds spawn. You are completely safe, basically. It's really easy. The only hard part is shooting it down that first street to the stairs and over the stairs and then when you arrive at the Circle in Ganton to get it to and into the Garage.

 

Also, I have seen the Video where you can get the AP/EC2 Feltzer AND the AP Fire Truck at the same time. I'd imagine this is because of the 1 Less Mission Attempt in the Stats. But the reality of this isn't needed. Why? I noticed when you come out of the Crack Palace, the game stops adding Mission Attempts, no matter how many times you fail. If you fail BEFORE the Crack Palace blows up, then it will add Attempts. But when you come out of the Crack Palace and fail it when you get the Feltzer, it stops adding Attempts. So getting the Feltzer and Fire Truck with 2 total Mission Attempts, it's not actually adding them to the Stats. So getting both the Feltzer and Fire Truck simultaneously is not needed. The only reason to do it is for a Challenge, I guess, but it doesn't affect the Stats in any way if you get one at a time...

Edited October 22, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

I never noticed how the Rancher from Lure has the UH property, really cool thing It turns really fast and also accelerates very quickly. Too bad that's lost when you save the vehicle at a garage :c

[Lethal Vaccine]

You sure? I never noticed it being UH and in LCS and VCS the only UH Vehicles are Bikes. I never heard of a UH Car/Truck other than using CheatDevice for PSP with LCS/VCS and making your own properties on any given Vehicle. Someone should look into the SA Scripts for the UH property for the DP/EP/FP/MP Rancher is Lure. I highly doubt it has the property and it never felt like it had unique handling to me. Felt like any other Rancher but with the added DP/EP/FP/MP properties...

 

I finished my 2nd of 3 VCS Saves this morning. 24 out of 36 Special Vehicles Only 1 more Save and the Save is already 97.50% Completion. Only needs to get 12 Special Vehicles from Side Missions, convert them all to EC Black and pass 5 Story Missions and it's done I'll be finished tomorrow with GTA for good as I got a job and I can't get any better Saves than I have now for PS2/3/iOS. Everything is as good as it'll ever be. I doubt I will EVER do a playthrough for ANY GTA's from here on out...

Edited October 24, 2015 by Militia

[Andromeda-J]

speaking of UH, the mothership from going to san fierro mission supposedly had quick turning too, not sure if that keeps it after saving!

Edited October 24, 2015 by Jaanus949

[DragonpokeZ]

'Quick turning' (we call it UH), along with other properties (Heavy, Pop-proof tires, etc), don't get saved in a garage on all games but LCS and VCS. Only Bullet-, Fire-, Explosion-, and Dent-proofing get saved

[Lethal Vaccine]

Someone said that in the Comments of jam8tone's Youtube Video that the EP Mothership is also UH, but it never felt like that to me. Furthermore, like Dragon said, NOTHING is kept on a Vehicle once you put it into a Garage other than BP, DP, EP, and FP properties. Everything else gets deleted. The only GTA's in the 3D Era where "different" properties will save in the Garages is LCS/VCS...

 

In IV, however, you can convert any Vehicle into AP form and if you convert a Vehicle with Tires (Not a Helicopter, obviously) it will also have PP tires and keep them. So you can convert to AP/PP in IV and it keeps it all. Pretty neat, imo.

Edited October 24, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Didn't know about the PP keeping in IV, thanks for that!

[Lethal Vaccine]

Yeah, all 10 of my Special Vehicles (4 Uniques and 6 EC's) in IV are AP/PP. Really cool how you can do that and so simply, too. Made IV THAT much better since it's the only GTA other than CW in the HD Era where you can get Vehicles with immunities. TLaD, TBoGT, and V only have Unique's and EC's. NO Special Vehicles with immunities like IV, CW, and the 3D Era GTA's. 3D Era is king, though, lol

[DragonpokeZ]

sh*t, I haven't done an update in ages xD

Already at Los Santos... again. Time to face the last 10 storyline vehicles, then it's only the AP girlfriend vehicles and a few others

[Lethal Vaccine]

Weren't you in San Fierro last time when your "garages got corrupt," whatever that means?

[DragonpokeZ]

I got my progress back. I told you already, I think

Edited October 28, 2015 by DragonpokeZ