PROOFED & RARE vehicle discussion

[OrionSR]

Nothing I can do will allow the Andromada wreck to be saved. The wrecks never lasts for more than a second and usually vanishes instantly. Maybe it's different with the mission vehicle, but I'm stumpt.

[OG Viking]

I have heard of a video that one was able to push it out of the garage just using CJ, but I have been unable to find it.

 

 

 

 

Even using the "Vehicle of Death" cheat to make it crashproof, it blew up most of the time. It took a bunch of tries before I got lucky and got it out. And that was constantly using the Health cheat.

CJ pushing an Andromada? Lol it was not an easy push for that Rhino. CJ is going to be very hungry after pushing out an Andromada...

 

How can it blow up if it is crashproof? It can't be crashproof if it does.

I have just done some tests with the vehicle of death cheat, and I find that CP is lost after the vehicle spawns in a garage. I found out more than this, but I guess it's off topic here.

[Lethal Vaccine]

We already established that Cheat does not add DP/FP. It adds true BP/EP, but the fake DP/FP that is added is not in the immunity settings. It's something else and it's temporary as all Garages remove it once you try and store it. It only keeps the BP/EP cuz a Rhino Tank IS BP/EP and not DP/FP. The Vehicle surely acts DP/FP when you apply the Cheat, but it seems to just get a boost in health to crashing and fires.

 

I personally never looked into the Andromada cuz I don't see a reason to obtain that and then your entire Hanger is basically taken up and you can't store other Vehicles inside, barely...It's just not worth any of my troubles. Like Melancholia has said, if I want to fly an Andromada, I will just save in a new slot before passing Stowaway on Mobile. On Mobile, you can fly it infinitely as it just sits there on the runway and doesn't disappear. Similar to the AP Sultan in Just Business. You use practically the same method to get the Sultan as done with the Andromada. Except when you try and store the Andromada in the Hanger on Mobile, the game freezes and the App will crash 100% of the time. It's unobtainable completely, but TEMPORARILY obtainable if you want to fly it around forever, just save the game in a new slot at Stowaway and you "have" it and don't even need to put it into the Hanger. But yeah, I don't worry about it.

 

However, I might save in Slot 2 before Outrider and in Slot 3 before Stowaway. Before Outrider, so I have infinitely a H/DP/FP Rumpo and before Stowaway to have infinitely a Unique Andromada. I love Heavy Vehicles, so I gotta mess around with it. In fact, I am on Outrider now. After the few Woozie Missions, that is next...

[DragonpokeZ]

So the Andromada can't be saved? That's... actually a relief, I was getting sick of changing my garages' layouts xD

Update on my collection: Obtained everything from LS already. The LS Copcar was surprisingly easy, taking a whooping total of 1 try using the Pause Glitch Now I'm in the Badlands, with a camera with infinite ammunition, so I might go to SF and get the snapshots out of the way, now that it isn't locked

[Lethal Vaccine]

The Andromada can be saved. Melancholia has it. But getting it out is a nightmare and basically need to Cheat to get it out by using Health Cheat. It's not worth it. Idk why anyone would want that anyways on their "main" Save. It takes up so much space. Where does the EC Packer go? EC Black Maverick? AP Fire Truck? AP/EC Maverick? The Hanger is used for Helicopters like that and large Vehicles that don't fit anywhere else. It's pointless trying to get that, unless it's on a new Save Slot or on a "side" Save, like how I do my Mobile Save where I don't go for all the main Special Vehicles...

 

You are playing on PC, or what? That Pause Glitch doesn't work on PS2 as Douglas and I tried it countless times. If you use the Pause Glitch on PS2, the Greenwood's Health is practically FULL by the time you get to the Police Bike Cutscene. It has basically the exact opposite effect as PC/Mobile. Furthermore, those Photos you took of the Mutant BF-400 in Yellow and Green look like you are playing on PC...

 

Did you get the AP Sanchez from Wrong Side of the Tracks or Badlands? How many tries for the AP/EC2 Bravura? If this is your first time ever obtaining these, I am quite surprised as usually these things take a handful of playthroughs to finally get comfortable doing all of it. NOW, those Shooting Vehicles are no problems, but in my first ever Save, I only had the Newsvan and had to skip the Bravura, FCR-900, and Greenwood. But now they aren't hard anymore, except the annoying Greenwood.

Edited October 7, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Yes, I'm playing on PC. I thought you knew that already

 

I skipped the WSOTT Sanchez to get the Badlands Sanchez instead, due to storage issues. The AP/EC2 Bravura took me 4 tries, 1 to get the timing, and the others because the Bravura vanished while pushing it

[Lethal Vaccine]

Well, you said PS2 a week ago when I asked...So...

 

LOL, yeah, that is how it is for me with the Bravura. Timing is never the problem. But the wreck disappearing RIGHT in front of the Garage as I shoot it in. Also Cesar's Gang plagues that area and if they see or hear your shoot, they shoot at you. It's really dumb. Easy, yet, annoying Vehicle...

 

I also took 4 tries for the Bravura on PS2, 1 try for the FCR-900, 1 try for the Newsvan, and 4 tries for the Greenwood.

Edited October 7, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

I shot the Bravura to that empty area under the freeway, so the Aztecas weren't a problem. And that problem is worse in PC than in PS2. Garages LOVE to eat wrecks that are halfway through their doors, even if the door isn't going to close. I have that issue a lot when getting the BP/FP Voodoo

[Lethal Vaccine]

Well, yeah, I also shoot the Bravura over the railing and into the grassy area, then through the fence, and to the Garage, but by the Garage there is Cesar's Gang spawning all the time. If you didn't see them, you simply were lucky. Cuz they are there practically every single time I drove down that area or check on my Vehicles in El Corona, etc...

 

Usually using a Wedge Vehicle to force the Garage door to stay open helps, but not in El Corona. sh*t still disappeared. But when at Dohery (FCR-900), Santa Maria Beach (Newsvan) and Ganton (Greenwood) using a Bike to hold the Garage open worked perfectly and the wrecks never disappeared. It was only retarded El Corona for some reason...

 

I never had problems with the Voodoo, as it's Ganton and it's INSIDE the Garage when you kill Sweet. It's not like it's half way in or something. You just quickly kill Sweet while the Garage is open, then close it, and open it again to renew the Wreck...

[DragonpokeZ]

Sometimes they do spawn, but not those times xD Yeah, I was just lucky

 

Using a wedge vehicle never works for preventing wrecks from vanishing, although it does hold the door open I guess

 

I used to destroy the Voodoo outside of the garage and then push it inside, but when I tried destroying it inside it worked like a charm. It didn't disappear when I fired rockets at Sweet to kill him

[Lethal Vaccine]

On all my playthroughs using a Wedge Vehicle worked like a charm. Without one, as I shoot it in = Vanishes. 100% of the time. With Wedge Vehicle = Never Disappears. Works like a charm for me. Without using a Wedge Vehicle, you have to shoot it SO close to the Garage. Too close = Touches Garage Door = Disappears. Not close enough = Garage Won't Open. I just shoot it in the vicinity of the Garage and then open the Garage and hop on a Bike and keep it open as I shoot it in. Works every time, no problems...

 

Lol, if you are destroying the Voodoo outside of the Garage, no wonder. You only do that if you plan on passing House Party with both the Voodoo and Tahoma, which is possible. Even the Greenwood. You can get all 3 at the same time and pass the Mission...

[Melancholia]

The Andromada can be saved. Melancholia has it. But getting it out is a nightmare and basically need to Cheat to get it out by using Health Cheat. It's not worth it. Idk why anyone would want that anyways on their "main" Save. It takes up so much space. Where does the EC Packer go? EC Black Maverick? AP Fire Truck? AP/EC Maverick? The Hanger is used for Helicopters like that and large Vehicles that don't fit anywhere else. It's pointless trying to get that, unless it's on a new Save Slot or on a "side" Save, like how I do my Mobile Save where I don't go for all the main Special Vehicles...

 

The Andromada does take up a lot of space, but I'm sure there's still room for the AP Maverick, EC Maverick, and EC Packer (The Firetruck fits no problem in El Corona, Doherty, Hashbury, etc.). In fact, the plane is so damn big that it lags the game when opening up the Hangar door. It's not a practical vehicle to obtain, yet, it's a special vehicle nonetheless. A special vehicle that sucks trying to get it out of the garage, lol.

[Lethal Vaccine]

It is true that the Fire Truck can fit in those, but I have the Tanker, Tanker Trailer, and Boxville inside Hashbury, which are all large Vehicles once again. The Glendale is small, but I still put it in Hashbury.

 

Again, in Doherty I have 4 medium sized Vehicles (Patriot, Rancher, Rumpo, and Stretch) and in El Corona, I have nothing. Same with Ganton. But I wouldn't have JUST the Fire Truck in El Corona. If that would be the case, then I'd only have 3 in the Hanger, when 4 fit. It just makes more sense to have the max capacity in each Garage, of which I do, except for 2 Garages in Las Venturas where I only have 2 and 3 inside 2 of the Garages. Every other Garage has 4 inside. I always pack them...

 

But in the end, the Andromada isn't needed since it basically can't be taken out without destroying it, which renders it useless...

Edited October 8, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Still, why get something that you can't really play with later?

[Lethal Vaccine]

I guess people just "want to have it," even though it's useless. But that is what I am saying. If you won't be able to use it without Cheats or something and if you need to Cheat to obtain a Special Vehicle, period, I don't even acknowledge it and look at it as unobtainable or non-existent. AP Sultan and AP Packer, for instance. I acknowledge the Sultan on Mobile, but don't even think of it, or the Packer on PS2. Andromada, same thing. It's not needed. People only want to get it just to say they got it, basically, but there is no reason to get it. The only slightly cool thing is on Mobile where you can always temporarily obtain it and fly it around infinitely until you get bored.

 

Today, I sniped the driver out of the H/DP/FP Rumpo and drove it around for maybe 45 minutes non stop going down the highway and such. It was fun...But then it wasn't fun. The Rumpo is really slow and sh*tty Vehicle in general. It's nothing like the H/DP/PP/TP/EC Banshee in LCS or the H/DP/PP Stinger, etc, etc. The Heavy Vehicles are SO much better in LCS/VCS. So I decided to say f*ck saving in a new slot before Outrider. I don't care to drive that H/DP/FP Rumpo around anymore.

 

Anyways, if you want the Andromada, buy Mobile and do this:

 

 

Edited October 8, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Can you actually fit anything in the Andromada's cargo ramp? Even if it's just a bike?

[Lethal Vaccine]

No idea. Never tried, or really care to try, lol...But people ask this same question (possibly already confirmed or denied) if you can fit anything inside the Cargo Plane in GTA V (which is also unobtainable without Save Editor and quick-saving the Vehicle as your current Vehicle since it can't fit in any of the 3 Character's Hangers).

 

Anyways, I am in The Desert in my Mobile Save. 56.68%...I am getting there. I just want it to be done. I am sick of SA right now and want to move onto VCS All I need is the AP Feltzer from Millie and the EC White Camper from Riot and I got all 18 I wanted for Mobile.

[Melancholia]

Can you actually fit anything in the Andromada's cargo ramp? Even if it's just a bike?

No. The most you can do is lift the ramp up and down.

 

EDIT: I actually quite like having the Andromada in my garage, if anything, it's quite cool to have the "unobtainable" plane obtained and saved in my hangar. It's annoying to get out, but it's quite cool. And it's unique. It's sorta like the RC Goblin. You can't drive that, yet people obtain it for the novelty and space to burn. The Andromada. A novelty, especially if you can't get it out of the garage (the only difference being that the Andromada is quite large). But that's okay, as it's something I have always wanted on PS2, but never tried because I've heard reports that it's "unobtainable". I consider it a worthy vehicle to obtain in a save.

Edited October 8, 2015 by Melancholia

[OG Viking]

I used to destroy the Voodoo outside of the garage and then push it inside, but when I tried destroying it inside it worked like a charm. It didn't disappear when I fired rockets at Sweet to kill him

Rockets? If you want to kill him without having to bury him I guess it's the weapon of choice.

 

 

 

 

 

Lol, if you are destroying the Voodoo outside of the Garage, no wonder. You only do that if you plan on passing House Party with both the Voodoo and Tahoma, which is possible. Even the Greenwood. You can get all 3 at the same time and pass the Mission

I remember that. You or someone else posted the video here earlier, it was impressive and here it is again:

by Stea1thman.

 

 

 

 

 

But in the end, the Andromada isn't needed since it basically can't be taken out without destroying it, which renders it useless...

I agree, it's useless for me too. But you've said you don't care to drive most of your special vehicles, you just want to collect and have them? An Andromada you don't use is not so much more useless than something else you'll never use.

It's big and take up a lot of space, but it's going to leave a lot of free space in the corners of the hangar.

 

 

 

 

 

Can you actually fit anything in the Andromada's cargo ramp? Even if it's just a bike?

No you can't. But I've heard about mods that makes it possible to load cargo in the Andromada.

san andreas Andromada cargo mod

Edited October 8, 2015 by OG Viking

[Lethal Vaccine]

@OGViking, that is on my Mobile Save where I find everything useless. I won't drive any EP/FP Phoenix around for instance. It'll just sit in the Garage. The only 3 Special Vehicles I actually care about on Mobile and 2 of them not so much as the other, are the AP Sultan, DP/EP/FP/MP BF-400, and DP/EP/FP/MP Police. Everything else, I don't touch. If I am gonna have a police chase, driving in a NON-BP Vehicle will end it quite soon. So these DP/EP/FP/MP Vehicles are cool to have but not something I care to always drive around. Only the AP Sultan is what I go for on my Mobile Save when I load it up after 100%. It's why I store it in the Verdant Meadows Garage as I always save at the Airstrip upon reaching 100% The Vehicle I want to use is right next to me.

 

On PS2, I actually like driving 80% of my Vehicles, including the BP Tanker + AP Tanker Trailer. The only ones I don't drive around really are the EC Vehicles, other than the EP/FP/EC Mutant BF-400 cuz it looks so funky. But even in that Save, I wouldn't drive around any EP/FP Vehicles other than the Sea Sparrow. The EP/FP Freeway and EP/FP NRG-500 will just gather dust. Considering out of 57 total Special Vehicles on PS2 and 30 of them are AP (one I can't use = Tanker Trailer, but can pull it around) that is more than half the Collection that I enjoy A lot of other cool BP Vehicles, too, like the Patriot, Elegy, Fortune, Voodoo, Tahoma, Forklift, Tanker, Walton, SWAT, etc, etc. So I love the PS2 Save, but don't care about the Mobile Save.

 

But as I also said in the past, I don't stick to just SA. I play 10 GTA's pretty regularly. Sometimes I don't play SA at all, since I am busy finishing up another GTA and going for Special Vehicles. I don't get stuck on one game. I play all of them.

Edited October 8, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

Not sure if I mentioned this already, but I had to restart the collection from the BP/FP Voodoo and Tahoma, and I got the FP/EP/DP LS Copcar ON MY FIRST TRY. Pasue Glitch FTW!!!

[Lethal Vaccine]

So the Andromada can't be saved? That's... actually a relief, I was getting sick of changing my garages' layouts xD

Update on my collection: Obtained everything from LS already. The LS Copcar was surprisingly easy, taking a whooping total of 1 try using the Pause Glitch Now I'm in the Badlands, with a camera with infinite ammunition, so I might go to SF and get the snapshots out of the way, now that it isn't locked

 

 

Not sure if I mentioned this already, but I had to restart the collection from the BP/FP Voodoo and Tahoma, and I got the FP/EP/DP LS Copcar ON MY FIRST TRY. Pasue Glitch FTW!!!

 

Why did you have to restart? And yeah, you already said (now twice) that you got it first try. I got it first try, too, until I had to snipe the Driver out with sh*tty sensitive Mobile Controls. Trying to shoot Targets with free aim on Mobile is very hard. If I was able to do that, I would of had it first try on Mobile, too, but instead, it took about 12-15 tries or so and I blew the Police up a few times before officially obtaining it cuz I couldn't shoot the actual Driver and was shooting the Police Car. I hate the Mobile Controls for free aim...But I am glad I finally got it. I was running on foot chasing it actually, when I obtained it. I chased it around Los Santos and quickly jacked a Vehicle and caught up with it and pinned it against a wall so it would stop moving and then I shot the driver, but at that time the Ballas were shooting at me. The Police Car almost blew up! But I got out and killed the Ballas, got back in, and drove it to Ganton. It now sits in my Verdant Meadows Garage with the AP Sultan and DP/EP/FP/MP BF-400 and soon the AP Feltzer will go there, too.

Edited October 9, 2015 by Militia

[DragonpokeZ]

I had to restart because a vehicle vanished from the SMB garage. Evil little piece of sh*t... i didn't even save there, it just gltiched on its own

[OG Viking]

Perhaps you drove near enough to trigger the door? Or flew above it?

 

I'm paranoid and for good reason. I alternate between several save slots, so hopefully I'll discover if something is missing before it's too late.

[DragonpokeZ]

Yea, I did that too and got to recover that vehicle (the BP/FP Tahoma), and I managed to get the Bravura on the second try this time

[Lethal Vaccine]

As I said in the past, as well, I never had problems with Santa Maria Beach. Well, I did, but it was on TWO PS2 Saves ago when I only obtained 23 Special Vehicles and skipped a LOT. But when I had 47 (Previous PS2 Save) and now currently 57, Santa Maria Beach was never a problem. Even my 2 Mobile Saves, when I had 4 inside Santa Maria Beach until I unlocked Las Venturas, I never lost any of the 4 inside...

 

@OG, I guess you HAVE to do that with alternating Save Slots. In my case, since PS3 has 4 USB Ports, I just use a USB Drive to back up my Save. I save the game, then I reload, then I check on ALL my Vehicles in ALL Garages and if everything is there, I make a backup. If something disappears, I reload the previous backup Save I had. But I don't usually have to do that (anymore) only on really old Saves did I have problems with Garages. I don't even drive near them, tbh. For instance, when I am crossing over the Flint Intersection, I drive on the WRONG SIDE of the road passing the Safehouse. NOT on the side of the road where the Pay and Spray is. I never go near the Garages and always have no problems now a days...

[DragonpokeZ]

Ok, I think that's a little too paranoid xD

 

I don't like driving on any roads close to the garages either, but one time I think I broke this rule and went on the road just North of the SMB safehouse

[Lethal Vaccine]

...Yet, I have no problems and only save in Slot 1...

[DragonpokeZ]

Well... Your methods =/= my methods =/= everyone else's methods xD

[Lethal Vaccine]

True, but my method is working, so I will stick to what works If I am not losing Vehicles and/or properties, then I must be doing something right, lol...