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Will Heists be Flight School 2.0? + 2015 was the plan all along?


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Yes, we could just wait and see, but let us not.

 

Anyone who has seen the trailer may remember the feeling of excitement rapidly bubbling up as the clip rolled on. I remember this feeling too, but suddenly the bubbles of excitement began to burst just as quickly as they were formed. I plummeted to the ground at a rate of naughts which would surpass even the quickest Besra pilot and hit the next gen (current gen) high textured grass with a thud.

 

As I stroked the foliage thinking "well this, this right here is definitely worth buying the game...again" (joking, calm down), I quizzed my self on the reasons as to why I was lying in a heap of next gen folliage instead of flying amongst the next gen clouds. Surely, after EVERYTHING it displayed in that trailer, I should be in good spirits singing along to the in car radio - Oh, I muted that, nvm bae - ok I should be in high spirts yada yada yada...

 

THEN! It dawned on me...FLIGHT SCHOOL!!!! This was the bubble burst...er!!!

 

How can this not be deja vu when EVERYTHING is much the same, but at the same time so different?!!

 

Flight school promised so much! We thought we were going to be given a five course gourmet meal with private concierge...but instead, R* turned up at our doors stinking of piss with a empty beer bottle in one hand and a half eaten pizza with the cheese stuck to the underside of the lid in the other!

 

Whilst I do not wish to discuss the quality of the flight school DLC, it is relevant to the Heist DLC because it ALSO got a trailer!!! AND I THINK IT WAS A LONGER TRAILER AT THAT!

 

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In the trailer, we saw: The Hydra, Hunter, 'Heist Ready' four door cars, an aircraft carrier, a new heli with mounted side gun, rear mounted guns on pick up trucks, an APC tank, new clothes (including police uniform) and some other props like drills and plasma cutters.

 

Whilst all this is unbelievably awesome, they have not confirmed whether or not these are heist specific or not. If this isn't a problem for you then I'm happy for you...however, how much fun will it be if you can only interact with the listed items exclusively in heists?

 

I really don't think these items will be available in free roam and I certainly believe the Air Craft carrier will not be a permanent fixture in free roam. There was a mission in story mode where Micheal's daughter is on a boat shooting some sort of porno...that boat was only available in that mission. Same applies to North Yankton and building interiors...I think they will be mission specific.

 

I suspect the trailer was released so it would push people who were on the fence about purchasing the game (again or for the first time) into actually buying it for christmas with the promise of heists in Early 2015...feels like Spring 2014 all of sudden doesn't it?

 

Having said that, this might have been the plan all along. Release the game on PS3/360...make some money, reinvest it in Next gen and properly start working on updates once it's released on PC...I feel my GTA life thus far has possibly been a Beta.

 

Whilst I would love the heist update to live up to the trailer...I have a feeling, from past experience it won't.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is; don't get your hopes up. Yes, all the things we saw were awesome, but just don't get your hopes up.

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I have two main question

 

1. Do you reckon Heists will be an elaborate Flight School?

 

2. Was the 2015 release for heists (if we actually get it in 2015) the plan all along?

Edited by sSphInXx
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Retired Mafia

1. no, but i do have a reason again to put on my flight suit.

 

2.no.

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So because the Heists trailer had a few new air vehicles this means it's going to be Flight School 2.0? I don't know if you've seen already but the guy who's designing the Heists missions has already given us a lot of information detailing what's going to come out. Not to mention the dozens of new photos.

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I wont be surprised if its another flightschool letdown. I stopped expecting much out of GTA Online. Its far from the game it was promised to be so Im just going to play it like an ordinary game. Its nothing special and I wont expect it to be. When GTA VI comes around I may let my hopes rise again, but for now Im going with the flow

So because the Heists trailer had a few new air vehicles this means it's going to be Flight School 2.0? I don't know if you've seen already but the guy who's designing the Heists missions has already given us a lot of information detailing what's going to come out. Not to mention the dozens of new photos.

 

I think you've misunderstood.

 

I'm drawing the comparison between the last time a trailer was released (flight school) and this trailer. Most would agree that Flight school was a bit of a flop when you take into account how impressive the trailer was..so the question is, do you think this new trailer has added unjustified hype to the Heist release.

 

Nothing to do with the new aircraft. Hope that makes it clearer :)

there's cut flying lesson . so this case might have link with hydra

 

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Which lesson has been cut?

Well you are mostly seeing cut scenes, not actual game play. So yes it is hyped up, as bad as Flight school? Unlikely, there is way more involved in these Heists. 20 plus missions etc.

 

If you are expecting an entirely new game, I wouldn't bet on it.

The sh*t does look cool though.

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The plan all along was to release heists with PC, they just lied at the beginning to boost initial sales by saying it would be in the first patch. The problem is people are blaming the devs for this, blame the company's executives and publishing department please not the devs. The heist dlc should be completely ready to be released at this time but it will not come out until PC is released because this is how marketing works. Executives only care about money and releasing heists with the PC release will boost sales, just like this trailer will boost sales over Christmas. Greed drives the world and especially the modern AAA gaming industry. Heists should be a solid DLC but somebody will always be disappointed, especially after over a year of hype.

 

there's cut flying lesson . so this case might have link with hydra

 

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Which lesson has been cut?

 

escort cargo . it involves player piloting a fighter jet to escort titan

They have been working an entirely year on these heists, I doubt it would be a Flight School 2.0, they even added new cut scenes!

 

 

Well you are mostly seeing cut scenes, not actual game play. So yes it is hyped up, as bad as Flight school? Unlikely, there is way more involved in these Heists. 20 plus missions etc.

 

If you are expecting an entirely new game, I wouldn't bet on it.

The sh*t does look cool though.

 

Agree with both posts! I'm coming around to heists...a bit ;)

especially after over a year of hype.

 

Agree with you 100%.

 

The quote - is what I'm worried about! A year and six months after they said it will be out...they tell us it's only a four player event. I dunno why more people aren't disappointed by this.

 

I wonder how much more disappointment 2015 will bring.

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TheKingChivas

 

especially after over a year of hype.

 

Agree with you 100%.

 

The quote - is what I'm worried about! A year and six months after they said it will be out...they tell us it's only a four player event. I dunno why more people aren't disappointed by this.

 

I wonder how much more disappointment 2015 will bring.

 

 

The most in Story Mode is 6 people in a heist...were you expecting 30-man heists?

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especially after over a year of hype.

 

Agree with you 100%.

 

The quote - is what I'm worried about! A year and six months after they said it will be out...they tell us it's only a four player event. I dunno why more people aren't disappointed by this.

 

I wonder how much more disappointment 2015 will bring.

 

 

The most in Story Mode is 6 people in a heist...were you expecting 30-man heists?

 

 

Not at all! But something like Los Santos Connection or Titan of a job...I didn't actually think about story mode heists..but six players would be a good number of people.

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The plan all along was to release heists with PC, they just lied at the beginning to boost initial sales by saying it would be in the first patch. The problem is people are blaming the devs for this, blame the company's executives and publishing department please not the devs. The heist dlc should be completely ready to be released at this time but it will not come out until PC is released because this is how marketing works. Executives only care about money and releasing heists with the PC release will boost sales, just like this trailer will boost sales over Christmas. Greed drives the world and especially the modern AAA gaming industry. Heists should be a solid DLC but somebody will always be disappointed, especially after over a year of hype.

there's no evidence to back this. However it wouldn't surprise me.

 

That said, the amount of people who bang on about how wonderful PCs are, i don't think they needed Heists to make them buy it, they already want it so they can bang on about being better

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Some people seem to *need* to find something negative about everything. And yes, I do mean the OP.

 

To answer the 2 questions posed:

 

1. No I do not think that heists will be an elaborate Flight School. It's clearly nothing like that.

2. They've publicly stated that heists turned out to be a bigger job than they anticipated. Also, there is a clear lack of cohesion in what code & data I have seen so I can tell you from experience that these are not seasoned developers doing most of the work. Given that this is their first foray into something of this scale, and the fact that their explanation fits the history, I personally believe them that it was delayed.

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I do hope that the aircraft carrier is also there in free roam, just like the mine shaft. I could use a new place to hide and fight it out over a bounty, after the current gen Posonby's was rendered useless as a place to make a last stand. Any explosions in front of the wall behind the counter and the bounty gets claimed. So I want to hole up somewhere in the aircraft carrier, and whenever some greedy fool gets forcefed assault shotgun rounds...they'll most likely respawn on a "nearby" beach and will have to find a way out to the carrier again. :lol:

yes and who the f*ck knows what these nutjobs are thinking really

 

I suspect the trailer was released so it would push people who were on the fence about purchasing the game (again or for the first time) into actually buying it for christmas with the promise of heists in Early 2015...feels like Spring 2014 all of sudden doesn't it?

 

this says it all really, all this bullsh*t about not being ready is hilarious, it's like they're shouting "LOOK AT OUR f*ckING INCOMPETENCE, WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A f*ckING DLC THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD OVER A YEAR AGO"

 

in any case it's hype and marketing and nothing more

perhaps Heists really are like the cake XD

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Some people seem to *need* to find something negative about everything. And yes, I do mean the OP.

 

 

Firstly, good spot on the whole newbies doing the coding - if it's true.

 

Secondly, I don't need to find something negative. I was leading the hypewagon before the flight school came out..and rockstar threw a sticky at us sooooo I won't be making the same mistake twice.

 

I'm just being realistic. I hope it is as awesome as the trailer depicts...but no hype from me this time round.

 

I do hope that the aircraft carrier is also there in free roam,

 

Me too! Would be awesome! It wouldda been good if it was North East of the map...just because there's no real reason to travel up that far and the carrier would perhaps give us a reason. In those images it looks like it's on the South East.

 

 

this says it all really, all this bullsh*t about not being ready is hilarious, it's like they're shouting "LOOK AT OUR f*ckING INCOMPETENCE, WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A f*ckING DLC THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD OVER A YEAR AGO"

 

 

I understand that it took longer than expected and the reasoning I guess some what justifies what has happened...but still..a year and a bit and nothing! Taking the p!ss.

 

Only saying this because it was supposed to be launched WITH the release of the game. If it was a game mode that was supposed to come in the future then I wouldn't be saying what I'm saying.

 

Some people seem to *need* to find something negative about everything. And yes, I do mean the OP.

 

 

Firstly, good spot on the whole newbies doing the coding - if it's true.

 

Secondly, I don't need to find something negative. I was leading the hypewagon before the flight school came out..and rockstar threw a sticky at us sooooo I won't be making the same mistake twice.

 

I'm just being realistic. I hope it is as awesome as the trailer depicts...but no hype from me this time round.

 

 

Okay - fair enough. I shouldn't judge you by other people's standards (as in, the norm on this forum). I apologise for that :)

Well, I mean, come on OP, it's only a f*cking video game.

 

Am I the only one who liked flight school?

No. I did too.

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Am I the only one who liked flight school?

 

No I did like it, but when I finished it I was left feeling like there was more to come..

 

 

 

Well, I mean, come on OP, it's only a f*cking video game.

 

This is true, but this is a forum where people have discussions.

I was leading the hypewagon before the flight school came out..and rockstar threw a sticky at us sooooo I won't be making the same mistake twice.

We got what we were promised in the Flight School DLC. It was a small monthly update just like the other 10 of them. If you feel entitled to more free DLC, then you can go and complain in the bitch and moan topic. Everything we've seen and read so far in the IGN article has been confirmed to be able to use in-game, since we see actual players using those things.

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