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do you think we will ever see the downfall of R*?


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We all know that EA has a pretty bad reputation in the gaming industry and sadly it looks like Ubisoft might be following right in their footsteps with the way they handled WatchDogs and AC Unity. Wether people here like it or not GTA V was a success both commercially and critically and it was obvious that a lot of work went into making it. I was wondering do you all believe there will be a time where R* just loses all innovation and focus with their games? Im curious to know what your opinions are on this matter.

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The Dedito Gae

I think i speak in behalf of this forum when i say i f*cking hope that never happens.

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If they can come out with a game as bad as GTA V and still get people to not only buy their future games, but give them critical acclaim, they're fine. Rockstar isn't going to receive anywhere near as much backlash for the problems their games have as other devs would just because they're Rockstar.

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I really doubt it will happen in any of our lifetimes. The GTA franchise will perhaps end(though also pretty unlikely) but I'm sure R* will still be making games and money after we're all taking dirt naps.

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Drunken Cowboy

I think GTA V is the Modern Warfare II in the progression, still has a lot of critical acclaim, but the loyal fans are keeping a bemused attitude toward their current bullsh*t and future titles.

Here's hoping GTA VI is World at War and not Black Ops 2.

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Homemade Dynamite

People give them 9s and 10s just because it's GTA, so no.

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Not anytime soon. Rockstar is a universally acclaimed developer/publisher with a ton of great IP's under their belt. I mean.. They have the rights to L.A Noire, Manhunt, Bully, GTA, Red Dead, and so on.

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Sussus Amongus

Not happening. After V having a great story with huge gameplay improvments a map that's bigger than all the others they made and an awesome online mode (full of money glitches though). Not anytime soon. Im just happy they kept their cool after these 2 years that atracted a horrible fanbase of bitchers and trolls.

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Drunken Cowboy

Ignoring your fanbase is the easiest way to keep cool under discontent.

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Homemade Dynamite

Ignoring your fanbase is the easiest way to keep cool under discontent.

Kinda like 343 Industries, right?

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I don't see it happening anytime soon. To me if you don't alienate a few people every now and then you aren't doing it right. Name a great talent that didn't do so. Also outside of this forum V is seen in a much much better light.

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Wayne Daniels

Well for me V was the start of it, but that doesn't really mean anything until we see their next game. Only then we will know.

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Won't happen, as long as they keep doing different things and different ideas. GTA is so successful because every new game is not just a cheap copy of the last one. I know that some fans would like it to be that way, turning it into something like COD but R* isn't that lame and I'm glad that in regards to this they don't listen to the fans. However, the next game will probably not sell as much as V, for obvious reasons but it will be a success nonetheless.

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Yes, cause everything falls eventually, even the Roman/British Empires. (Watch out USA!!!!!)

BUT, given how good V and GTAO is , no sign of that yet.

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GTA Online will be the cause. Loyal long time fans of the SP will jump off the GTA bandwagon if the next GTA is half assed. That'll leave R* with a 12 year old kids' fanbase/playerbase and a bad rep. They'll still make lots of money, though.

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HaythamKenway

Well, V was surprisingly underwhelming, the turn towards Online and microtransactions is worrying and there wasn't a single thing I'd really applaud them for in, hell, last few years, but it's still nowhere near as bad as the stuff other developers and publishers pull. It's like Rockstar taking baby steps towards fiery chasm, while EA has already jumped into it three years ago. There is still time to turn around. Or they can pursue the almighty dollar and jump down too.

 

Who knows? Next few years will tell us. Their next big release will certainly be a large indicator of what is to come. Either way, Rockstar isn't going down. EA hasn't gone down. And Rockstar would have to work really, really hard to be as bad as EA. And, as stupid as their actions were in last few years, Rockstar are still a completely different beast. They know the limit. They still have their artistic vision and integrity.

 

I hope, at least.

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American Viking

I haven't put money in EA's pocket in years...but that's beside the point. lol. Listen, every game developer releases a few bad games at some point...GTA V being Rockstars. It's safe to say that the majority of people who bought it did so bc they were fooled into thinking it would be just as epic as GTA IV and RDR, we were wrong. What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up and I pray the next GTA is nothing like it. I think R* will learn from their mistakes, see how many of us missed the realistic story telling of old, and go back that direction. If it turns into a COD/Saints Row anymore, I'm done with the series.

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GTA Online will be the cause. Loyal long time fans of the SP will jump off the GTA bandwagon if the next GTA is half assed. That'll leave R* with a 12 year old kids' fanbase/playerbase and a bad rep. They'll still make lots of money, though.

 

Yeah, I'm worried about this.

 

The current trend is to have everything online. I'm not sure we'll even have a single player experiences any more. Everything has to be online and shared. When something brighter and shinier comes a long for the for future gen pups they may abandon GTA. Who knows though.

 

GTA is dying a little for me all the time. I get excited about it out of habit now but it rarely entertains the way I hoped it would. I slowly find myself being more immersed or wowed by RPG's now so it's probably not GTAs fault but just me maturing as a gamer.

 

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CarnageRacing00

If they can come out with a game as bad as GTA V and still get people to not only buy their future games, but give them critical acclaim, they're fine. Rockstar isn't going to receive anywhere near as much backlash for the problems their games have as other devs would just because they're Rockstar.

Meanwhile in reality, millions of people see GTA V as an awesome game. So you're in the minority.

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And again there's people trying to talk for the rest of the fans that the game was bad, jesus...

 

What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up...

 

Not as cheesy as III, VC and SA though.

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I haven't put money in EA's pocket in years...but that's beside the point. lol. Listen, every game developer releases a few bad games at some point...GTA V being Rockstars. It's safe to say that the majority of people who bought it did so bc they were fooled into thinking it would be just as epic as GTA IV and RDR, we were wrong. What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up and I pray the next GTA is nothing like it. I think R* will learn from their mistakes, see how many of us missed the realistic story telling of old, and go back that direction. If it turns into a COD/Saints Row anymore, I'm done with the series.

 

lol, opinions are funny things. I bought V hoping it would be vastly different in tone from IV and was delighted that it was. Definitely a return to form for me and one that I hope continues.

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Nah nah nah Gta 6

No, not for a long time.

 

Of course the IV fanboys are saying they are, if they were to make the next game it would be a sh*tty rehash of IV.

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I think GTA V is the Modern Warfare II in the progression, still has a lot of critical acclaim, but the loyal fans are keeping a bemused attitude toward their current bullsh*t and future titles.

Here's hoping GTA VI is World at War and not Black Ops 2.

So, not only wherever you go you spit hate on GTAV, but now you also do that on MW2 and BO2? Mlol... keep denying greatness.

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American Viking

And again there's people trying to talk for the rest of the fans that the game was bad, jesus...

 

What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up...

 

Not as cheesy as III, VC and SA though.

I speak for myself only but lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA V is a stain on the series. Over the top missions, terrible writing, forgettable plot, rushed ending, and Michael De Santa is the only protagonist even worth a mention. Sure, you can make the argument that GTA III, VC, and San Andreas were cheesy but them games came way before Rockstar set the bar so high with RDR and GTA IV. All they did with GTA V is try to please casuals and ended up disappointing millions of their core fans.

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Nah nah nah Gta 6

 

And again there's people trying to talk for the rest of the fans that the game was bad, jesus...

 

What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up...

 

Not as cheesy as III, VC and SA though.

I speak for myself only but lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA V is a stain on the series. Over the top missions, terrible writing, forgettable plot, rushed ending, and Michael De Santa is the only protagonist even worth a mention. Sure, you can make the argument that GTA III, VC, and San Andreas were cheesy but them games came way before Rockstar set the bar so high with RDR and GTA IV. All they did with GTA V is try to please casuals and ended up disappointing millions of their core fans.

 

I love how you only mention how bad the story is and not the gameplay, over the top missions were in all GTA's, so why are you complaining the fact it is in V?

GTA III wasn't a huge success because of it's plot, it was the awesome Gameplay.

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I speak for myself only but lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA V is a stain on the series.

 

Wow, that's such a stupid statement but if you want to play that way, then lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA IV is a stain on the series either.

 

No offense but looking at your join date you don't even know how much hate IV had to bear. I only joined three years after it's release and at that time there were still countless of threads complaining about IV. So please, if there's any game guilty for splitting the fan base it's IV, although I completely loved that game.

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American Viking

 

 

And again there's people trying to talk for the rest of the fans that the game was bad, jesus...

 

What we got instead was a cheesy shoot em up...

 

Not as cheesy as III, VC and SA though.

I speak for myself only but lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA V is a stain on the series. Over the top missions, terrible writing, forgettable plot, rushed ending, and Michael De Santa is the only protagonist even worth a mention. Sure, you can make the argument that GTA III, VC, and San Andreas were cheesy but them games came way before Rockstar set the bar so high with RDR and GTA IV. All they did with GTA V is try to please casuals and ended up disappointing millions of their core fans.

 

I love how you only mention how bad the story is and not the gameplay, over the top missions were in all GTA's, so why are you complaining the fact it is in V?

GTA III wasn't a huge success because of it's plot, it was the awesome Gameplay.

 

Gameplay? Do you mean the visible bullet wounds that appear on our characters but cause no actual injury animation, look ridiculous, and follow us into cutscenes, or how about the "Special Abilities" that turn our already overpowered protags into superheroes. Let us not forget the super cops who can hit you at 1000 yards with a hand gun right in the head and can track you down regardless of where you go, Trevor's "Rampages" where he can kill 50+ guys with hardly any damage and no "star" received for it, the personal vehicles that are forced on us, the automatic healing health, the rating system that makes you feel like you suck for not playing their way, or the very linear missions...I can go on and on. As for over the top missions, this is not the 3D era so quit comparing it to GTA III.

 

I speak for myself only but lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA V is a stain on the series.

 

Wow, that's such a stupid statement but if you want to play that way, then lets not pretend that millions of other people don't agree that GTA IV is a stain on the series either.

 

No offense but looking at your join date you don't even know how much hate IV had to bear. I only joined three years after it's release and at that time there were still countless of threads complaining about IV. So please, if there's any game guilty for splitting the fan base it's IV, although I completely loved that game.

 

Whatever, I'm not gonna fan the flames anymore. You have your opinion and I've got mine.

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The Dedito Gae

Ignoring your fanbase is the easiest way to keep cool under discontent.

V has the problems it has because they heard the (stupid) complaints that IV had in the past, actually, they listen to his fanbase a lot and that's the problem.

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