[REL|SA] PS2 map + map fixes

[gts. 2,106]

 

Or removing it, since it don't have any text (Well done R*)

The text is a separate model, you forgot it back there lol

 

 

Moving it works though.

 

But if you put it before that street like you did, depending on what is written on the text it may look wrong, but whatever nobody reads this stuff anyways.

 

EDIT: Sh*t if MEd doesn't render them we have a big problem here...

 

I'm curious, what the text say? Can you put a screenshot of the text El Dorado?

Edited September 21, 2015 by gts.

[TWIST_OF_HATE 288]

El Dorado, I found a few more flying lampposts, and also bad road ( someone tell me its fixed, but still not ), and some other stuff, check it please. I`m sure, that there is a lot similar issues in SA, but we just too lazy to check all objects on the map.

 

Bad road

Looks strange

Bad LOD may`be

 

And I also remember some bad placed blue trash boxes ( not sure that they for trash ) in some village, but I can`t find them again ... №1334 or 1336 from next screen, just can`t find it now, but later I will.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2015 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[El Dorado 3,632]

What you guys need to understand is, most of terrain related problems is because of dff or txd's, and I don't do that. I'm only covering ipl's and some ide flags.

 

I'll take a look at the lampposts later.

[Reyks 2,095]

I just realized something, I MAY be able to convert the .IPL/binaryIPL files to MTA format and fix the positions using it and then convert it back to .IPL.

 

I need an IPL file with floating/sticked in the ground or whatever stuff so I can test this properly, so if someone can tell me wich one or send me the file I would be grateful.

 

This is just a theory though, converting stuff from MTA to .IPL is possible without bugs but I haven't tried the other way around yet.

[El Dorado 3,632]

I'll send you a PM.

[El Dorado 3,632]

So there's good news and there is bad news.

 

Good news is, there is a bug in Binary Decompiler tool, which causes cracks on the ground. Bug is not present when using IPL Helper.

 

Bad news, I'll have to re-do all the work from scratch to properly fix the issue, because, previously edited ipl's by Binary Decompiler will carry on the bug.

 

EDIT - IPL helper have issues too. For example, take this line

 

1308, dummy, 512, 2128.25781, 35.17188, 25.64063, 0.00000, -0.00000, -0.00000, 1.00000, -1

 

IPL Helper turns into this

 

1308, Item 4, 512, 2128.258, 35.17188, 25.64063, 8.42937E-08, -1.171569E-15, -1.470739E-08, 1, -1

 

How 0.0000 turns into 8.42937E-08 and what are the effects? Who the f*ck knows.

 

So, I reached a dead end - There are no current reliable tools or map editors to carry on with this.

 

That said, I updated the pack again, fixed floating objects pointed out by TWIST_OF_HATE, download link in the OP

 

Note, there will be cracks on the ground in various places, you'll have to live with them if you want to use this modification.

Edited September 21, 2015 by El Dorado

[Reyks 2,095]

I found a way to fix the bugs without having to use MEd for editing anything.

 

Basically just using MEd to FIND the objects and their information then manually deleting the line in the .ipl file, and finally adding back those objects with corrected positions using MTA.

 

So I MAY try to remake the work done in this mod in San Andreas Remapped but I can't really promise anything.

 

Can someone with the PS2 files send me all the original binary IPLs please? I want to test something.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Reyks

[Inadequate 3,481]

Note, there will be cracks on the ground in various places, you'll have to live with them if you want to use this modification.

What kind of cracks? Can you put a screenshot?

[El Dorado 3,632]

[TWIST_OF_HATE 288]

El Dorado, this cracks is not a big problem, IMO. MORE lampposts:

 

 

 

 

That broken lampposts only in Los Santos, or everywhere ?

Edited September 22, 2015 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[Inadequate 3,481]

^

Seriously, I don't see any problem with that lampposts.

 

But now you are in working on this El Dorado. PLZ FIX THE WHOLE MAP, THE WHOLEEEEEE MAP.

 

 

jk.

 

 

[El Dorado 3,632]

Well, the cracks are a big problem to me. And seeing as current tools aren't reliable enough, I can't in good consciousness continue developing this, I can't deliver a half-assed "product" to my "clients"

 

So I'm sorry, but I ain't touching this until better tools are available (And I don't know if some day we will have one)

[TWIST_OF_HATE 288]

^

Seriously, I don't see any problem with that lampposts.

 

But now you are in working on this El Dorado. PLZ FIX THE WHOLE MAP, THE WHOLEEEEEE MAP.

 

 

jk.

 

 

Some of them is just slightly in the air, but that can be considered as a map bug.

El Dorado, sad, but you know best.

Edited September 22, 2015 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[TWIST_OF_HATE 288]

Nevermind

Edited October 11, 2015 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[El Dorado 3,632]

Plot twist - The cracked ground reported 5 posts above which I believed it was caused by a Binary Decompiler bug... is there on a clean game too

 

 

That doesn't mean Binary Decompiler don't have problems, it break some objects rotations and cause cracks on the ground, but maybe it's less "dangerous" than I thought

 

IPL helper is a beta tool as the author describes it, does have some weirdness, like endless confirmation dialogues before saving changes still I'll give it a try

 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ra3k8n

 

That ipl was edited on IPL helper, I removed one tree and changed the position of another tree as a test. If anyone is interested on this, download it, try it, report anything strange around Palomino Creek area. Also, if you spot a crack on the ground, try to compare the same place on a clean game.

Edited October 10, 2015 by El Dorado

[savidge 2,676]

is this topic still ongoing? if so, I'd like to point out some grass growing out the concrete near LSX:

[El Dorado 3,632]

Grass ≠ ipl

[Inadequate 3,481]

It's like that on PS2 as well.

[savidge 2,676]

Grass ≠ ipl

oh, how would one go about removing the grass then?

 

also, I'd like to report something else. this time it's draw distance-based. look at how the palm trees disappear instantly if I stand a certain distance away from them:

 

goddamnit for some reason I can't use the bmp file extension so I'll just have to paste the urls here instead:

http://puu.sh/laRoK/a9de184e3e.bmp

http://puu.sh/laRmO/e87b5f46c4.bmp

 

EDIT:

 

It's like that on PS2 as well.

yes, but it would fall under the "map fixes" part of the title.

Edited November 5, 2015 by Savidge

[El Dorado 3,632]

And what I'm supposed to do about palm trees? It's normal behaviour.

[savidge 2,676]

And what I'm supposed to do about palm trees? It's normal behaviour.

the disappearing instantly thing (instead of it gradually "fading" away like everything else does) falls under the same issue as the building behind the LV Pay 'n' Spray disappearing at a certain angle, I think (which was fixed).

[El Dorado 3,632]

What you mean by "fading" away like everything else does? These palm trees disappearing instantly happens only in this part of the map?

[savidge 2,676]

What you mean by "fading" away like everything else does? These palm trees disappearing instantly happens only in this part of the map?

usually when something gets further and further away from the player, it fades into the distance. and yes, it's only those palm trees that disappear in that part of the map.

[El Dorado 3,632]

I'll see what I can see.

[Reyks 2,095]

oh, how would one go about removing the grass then?

Grass can be removed/added by editing the collision with CollEditor II, it's really easy to use, all you need to do is select the face that has grass and change the material to default or concrete.

[El Dorado 3,632]

I'm still wondering about this

 

[savidge 2,676]

came across a floating traffic light near Glen Park. nothing major, but could do with a fix nonetheless:

[TWIST_OF_HATE 288]

came across a floating traffic light near Glen Park. nothing major, but could do with a fix nonetheless:

There is may`be dozens of them on whole map, so ...

[savidge 2,676]

There is may`be dozens of them on whole map, so ...

all of the more reason to fix them then!

[El Dorado 3,632]

https://www.sendspace.com/file/c7iclp