NPC Traffic Behavior - ENOUGH ALREADY

[yoloswag420xd]

It's even funnier when you keep honking your horn non-stop, it makes the NPCs like 10 times more aggressive lol. You can get them to speed away, go past red lights, and swerve on the wrong side of the road and crash into other stuff(and they even attack you sometimes XD )

Edited December 18, 2014 by fofofofofofofofo

[Crunch McThornbody]

I hate it when you bump into the back of an NPC driver going the same direction as you and they jam on the brakes which too often then slows you to a crawl as you try to get by them.

 

You can't jump out of a car moving at top speed and watch it roll off into the distance, some magical brake always gets activated and it slows down.

 

Large trucks don't have correct inertia, you can't plough through traffic like you should be able to - did they never watch the beginning of Beverly Hills Cop for f*cksake??

 

 

[Raiden1018]

 

Cars in iv were worse. Its an improvement

I know you're joking.

 

By God, I hope he is.

[BatsOnMyArm]

I wish they had turn signals for npc's just like in gta iv.

[CarnageRacing00]

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

 

Laziest programmers on the planet? Get flushed you little turd. You have no idea the amount of work that goes into a game like GTA V. If there's a problem with the AI, it's because they just couldn't figure it out, NOT because they're lazy.

 

For the record, traffic AI has been bad in ALL GTA games, it's not exclusive to V, and the only reason police AI seems so much worse in V than they do in IV is because they're so damned accurate. But the AI is not worse.

[Ayylien]

They should have changed a lot of things when the re-released the game. This being one of them obviously.

Sorry to go off-topic in your thread, but it's not the only gripe I have.

 

1) They should have re-done the AI entirely.

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

3) Vehicles should have been re-tweaked with new handling and speed.

4) Vehicle damage effects should have been re-done. Should of been more random like in IV.

 

I have so many more, but they've been argues 1000x on this forum. Again, sorry about potentially derailing your thread.

[CarnageRacing00]

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

 

 

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

[PoeticWhisper]

I like it sometimes, Like when I go super fast and get t-boned by a speeding ped. It's awesome cause I occasionally just go flying through the air.

[itzlowitz]

Damn that youtube video almost ruined the game for me!

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

For the people that got run over when in a battle....npcs simply become afraidxand go crazzy on the gass pedal when somene fires guns in the area

Also the problem with turning npcs is simply that they cant give direction....just like we cant

[SAUL_SILVER]

This is definitely up there for one of the most annoying things in the game, then you get the ass that you picked up for the mission shooting aimlessly out the widow making them even worse.

 

Apparently you're the dick for kicking them out.

[Nipper]

You on current Gen or last?

 

I remember that one video saying cars turning in front of us and other various instances of bad NPC driving was due to the current console limitations loading, or whatever.

 

Soon as i got on the. PS4 i checked 2 things.

Speed cap and AI driving.

 

Both still lame.

 

Nothing to do with "console" limitations.

 

More to do with the fact they didn't bother coding the physics for it, when an AI car turns, it's really just pivoting on it's point. Stand and watch traffic drive and you will notice how alien it looks when they take turns. Still happens on 8th gen, will still happen on PC. Where's your limitations now?

 

 

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

 

Laziest programmers on the planet? Get flushed you little turd. You have no idea the amount of work that goes into a game like GTA V. If there's a problem with the AI, it's because they just couldn't figure it out, NOT because they're lazy.

 

For the record, traffic AI has been bad in ALL GTA games, it's not exclusive to V, and the only reason police AI seems so much worse in V than they do in IV is because they're so damned accurate. But the AI is not worse.

 

 

 

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

 

Laziest programmers on the planet? Get flushed you little turd. You have no idea the amount of work that goes into a game like GTA V. If there's a problem with the AI, it's because they just couldn't figure it out, NOT because they're lazy.

 

For the record, traffic AI has been bad in ALL GTA games, it's not exclusive to V, and the only reason police AI seems so much worse in V than they do in IV is because they're so damned accurate. But the AI is not worse.

 

 

Lol. Yeah the AI was fine in IV, the cops didn't have magic nitrous, they also couldn't keep up with your supercar in their patrol car.

 

In V it's simple, if a cop is driving, that car becomes the heaviest, fastest ramming mobile in the world. Even if they steal a Prius.

 

That's not even mentioning the fake PIT they can do, all they need to do is tap your car (anywhere) and your front wheels automatically go full lock to the right or left.

 

Damn that's some advanced AI.

 

I get the feeling you didn't watch the whole video, if you really believe that the AI is not worse.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Nipper

[CarnageRacing00]

 

 

You on current Gen or last?

 

I remember that one video saying cars turning in front of us and other various instances of bad NPC driving was due to the current console limitations loading, or whatever.

 

Soon as i got on the. PS4 i checked 2 things.

Speed cap and AI driving.

 

Both still lame.

Nothing to do with "console" limitations.

 

More to do with the fact they didn't bother coding the physics for it, when an AI car turns, it's really just pivoting on it's point. Stand and watch traffic drive and you will notice how alien it looks when they take turns. Still happens on 8th gen, will still happen on PC. Where's your limitations now?

 

 

 

 

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

Laziest programmers on the planet? Get flushed you little turd. You have no idea the amount of work that goes into a game like GTA V. If there's a problem with the AI, it's because they just couldn't figure it out, NOT because they're lazy.

 

For the record, traffic AI has been bad in ALL GTA games, it's not exclusive to V, and the only reason police AI seems so much worse in V than they do in IV is because they're so damned accurate. But the AI is not worse.

 

 

 

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

Laziest programmers on the planet? Get flushed you little turd. You have no idea the amount of work that goes into a game like GTA V. If there's a problem with the AI, it's because they just couldn't figure it out, NOT because they're lazy.

 

For the record, traffic AI has been bad in ALL GTA games, it's not exclusive to V, and the only reason police AI seems so much worse in V than they do in IV is because they're so damned accurate. But the AI is not worse.

 

Lol. Yeah the AI was fine in IV, the cops didn't have magic nitrous, they also couldn't keep up with your supercar in their patrol car.

 

In V it's simple, if a cop is driving, that car becomes the heaviest, fastest ramming mobile in the world. Even if they steal a Prius.

 

That's not even mentioning the fake PIT they can do, all they need to do is tap your car (anywhere) and your front wheels automatically go full lock to the right or left.

 

Damn that's some advanced AI.

 

I get the feeling you didn't watch the whole video, if you really believe that the AI is not worse.

AI and physics are the same thing? I guess I just don't understand.

 

Yeah, the way your car loses control when the cops rear end you is a bit excessive.

 

As far as cars gaining infinite mass, that's a bug. It's obviously a bug because it doesn't happen all the time. I like to play with police in the Duke O Death and most of the time I can push them around with ease. Sometimes they are like immovable boulders.

 

The cop speed thing has been toned down for New gen.

[Nipper]

Who said AI and physics are the same thing?

 

The AI follows a predetermined path around turns (which looks fake as hell) so that it saves resources for other things.

 

Ever watched a car on the highway move over to the off-ramp? They don't turn so much as move sideways into the lane.

[ArcadeWilliamz]

Once a stupid woman driver in her mini van drove straight into me at 100MH while I was in cover from enemies.

[Ayylien]

 

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

 

 

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

 

It has terrible lighting, it's awful. I gave it a pass on the PS3 because of 'limitations' but there's no excuse for the PS4.

Edited December 18, 2014 by TheStalked

[hugh750]

last night while i was trying to stop a car so i could a car, i got taken out by a npc driver who panic stopped and skidded side ways and hit me!

[CarnageRacing00]

 

 

 

 

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

 

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

 

It has terrible lighting, it's awful. I gave it a pass on the PS3 because of 'limitations' but there's no excuse for the PS4.

Get your eyes checked. This is the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about this game by a wide margin.

[TECHN9CiAN]

It's poor AI programming. Watch this. This video describes the 360/PS3 version, but it's relevant.

 

Holy f*ckin sh*t!!!! I feel betrayed by R* after watching this, that bumper hitting explanation does prove how lazy the programmers were. Im heartbroken.

[ten-a-penny]

 

 

 

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

It has terrible lighting, it's awful. I gave it a pass on the PS3 because of 'limitations' but there's no excuse for the PS4.

Get your eyes checked. This is the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about this game by a wide margin.

I think *you* should learn what "different opinions" means first.

[Ayylien]

 

 

 

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

 

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

 

It has terrible lighting, it's awful. I gave it a pass on the PS3 because of 'limitations' but there's no excuse for the PS4.

Get your eyes checked. This is the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about this game by a wide margin.

 

Fortunetly, I do not need my eyes checked. I don't see how you can't see it. The game for starters, is way to bright in the day, that being said, the pastel-like choice of colours really didn't do it any favours. To me, it looks widely unrealistic and overly plasticy. The night isn't so bad, but again, I can stand in the middle of the Desert or somewhere where there's no light and can still see everything clearly. Which, quite frankly, is just plain wrong. The lighting effects in this game are very basic, they aren't what I would call good. It has very poor shadowing effects, which ties in with making everything look like plastic.

[CarnageRacing00]

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) Better colours and shadowing/lighting and an in-game contrast and for the love of god, not so bright, at the moment I have to remind myself that I'm playing it on the PS4. Pictures of the game look great, in-game, in motion not so great. I put it down to the lighting effects, they are just non-existant. I find it near impossible to get a balance of not to bright and not to dark. I'm going to get a lot of hate here, but Watch Dogs looked better in motion after playing it for a couple of hours, and I wasn't a fan of it at all.

 

....Huh? What? GTA V has some of the best lighting in games, period. What the hell are you smoking?

 

It has terrible lighting, it's awful. I gave it a pass on the PS3 because of 'limitations' but there's no excuse for the PS4.

Get your eyes checked. This is the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about this game by a wide margin.

 

Fortunetly, I do not need my eyes checked. I don't see how you can't see it. The game for starters, is way to bright in the day, that being said, the pastel-like choice of colours really didn't do it any favours. To me, it looks widely unrealistic and overly plasticy. The night isn't so bad, but again, I can stand in the middle of the Desert or somewhere where there's no light and can still see everything clearly. Which, quite frankly, is just plain wrong. The lighting effects in this game are very basic, they aren't what I would call good. It has very poor shadowing effects, which ties in with making everything look like plastic.

Thanks but I'll stick with the opinion of people who actually know what they're talking about.

[joneskhf733625]

I couldn't agree more. The NPC AI makes me want to break my controller in frustration sometimes. Grr.

[RedlineDrifts]

Lol. Yeah the AI was fine in IV, the cops didn't have magic nitrous, they also couldn't keep up with your supercar in their patrol car.

 

In V it's simple, if a cop is driving, that car becomes the heaviest, fastest ramming mobile in the world. Even if they steal a Prius.

 

That's not even mentioning the fake PIT they can do, all they need to do is tap your car (anywhere) and your front wheels automatically go full lock to the right or left.

 

Damn that's some advanced AI.

 

I don't get why they didn't give the cops a larger arsenal of cars. IRL, if you're involved in a high speed pursuit in a really fast car speeding down the highway refusing to pull over, in the USA (correct me if I'm wrong, as I am Canadian), they'll come after you in corvettes or other fast cars and they sure as hell know how to drive them...

 

Why don't the cops just start spawning in faster cars when their basic ones can't catch you, like police coquettes, or vaccas or anything, anything other car than the same old stupid garbage slow ass cruisers that in no way shape or form should be able to keep up with fully modded cars, especially super cars...

 

P.S. Stay on topic guys, enough about the lighting...

Edited December 18, 2014 by RedlineDrifts

[Nipper]

 

Lol. Yeah the AI was fine in IV, the cops didn't have magic nitrous, they also couldn't keep up with your supercar in their patrol car.

 

In V it's simple, if a cop is driving, that car becomes the heaviest, fastest ramming mobile in the world. Even if they steal a Prius.

 

That's not even mentioning the fake PIT they can do, all they need to do is tap your car (anywhere) and your front wheels automatically go full lock to the right or left.

 

Damn that's some advanced AI.

 

I don't get why they didn't give the cops a larger arsenal of cars. IRL, if you're involved in a high speed pursuit in a really fast car speeding down the highway refusing to pull over, in the USA (correct me if I'm wrong, as I am Canadian), they'll come after you in corvettes or other fast cars and they sure as hell know how to drive them...

 

Why don't the cops just start spawning in faster cars when their basic ones can't catch you, like police coquettes, or vaccas or anything, anything other car than the same old stupid garbage slow ass cruisers that in no way shape or form should be able to keep up with fully modded cars, especially super cars...

 

P.S. Stay on topic guys, enough about the lighting...

 

 

IRL if you try to evade in a super powered car, they just pull back the ground units and tail you from the air.

 

Too risky to civilian life to engage in a pursuit with such a fast powerful car.

 

This isn't real life though, so throw civilian and police safety out of the window, like in the movies. You're a one man army.

 

Doesn't mean that the cops need super buffed driving abilities. After all, no matter how many you dispatch there will always be more. Surely the helicopter is there for tailing "faster than police patrol" cars.

 

The cops don't really bother me too much, but when they do bother me it's always because of the bullsh*t "PIT" rams that lock my front wheels. In IV I could counter steer the cops when they tried for a PIT. That or their ability to keep up with my supposedly super car with their stolen prius.

 

After all though, I have had a year (as has everyone most likely) to learn their quirks. So it's a non-issue from a gameplay point once you apply certain tactics, stupid tactics but still, tactics.

 

Cop car chasing you at mach 5 lining up a ram? Weave side to side, they'll never catch you. They can't "boost" while they turn, only while you go straight. It makes the whole cop chase broken once you do this as it's impossible to lose.

 

Drive round and round the same block a couple times then quickly dart off in a different direction, works great against heli's.

 

Other than that it is what it is, they can't patch this, it's way too much that needs changing.

 

This post may come across moody or something as I'm typing it way fast, and I am doing my best to get my point across. I'm not complaining or bitching or even whining. Just a bit disappointed in the way they turned out.

[RedlineDrifts]

Yeah the cops' magic abilities are f*cked...

 

I don't understand why they cannot just PIT for real instead of doing that bs like you say, locking the front wheels by just slightly tapping you.

 

Thanks for those tactics, I'll certainly employ them whenever possible. Suck my dick f*cking cops!!

[Nipper]

Yeah the cops' magic abilities are f*cked...

 

I don't understand why they cannot just PIT for real instead of doing that bs like you say, locking the front wheels by just slightly tapping you.

 

Thanks for those tactics, I'll certainly employ them whenever possible. Suck my dick f*cking cops!!

 

AI takes resources, it's easier this way. Basically that is what it all comes down to.

[RedlineDrifts]

 

Yeah the cops' magic abilities are f*cked...

 

I don't understand why they cannot just PIT for real instead of doing that bs like you say, locking the front wheels by just slightly tapping you.

 

Thanks for those tactics, I'll certainly employ them whenever possible. Suck my dick f*cking cops!!

 

AI takes resources, it's easier this way. Basically that is what it all comes down to.

 

 

Well there must be enough resources by now on current gen (X1/PS4) to support non-retarded AI...

[LoyalRockstarFanboy]

Maybe its because im always on a motorcycle but i never crash into cars. The only time i do is when im trying to hit a jump at the corner of an intersection and a car pulls right out infront of me.

[Van_Hellsing]

NPC cars try to crash into a wanted car when you try to deliver them to Simeon. One scratch deminishes the repo value a lot. I had one NPC car waiting at an intersection and it was speeding up just when I past it. It rammed my side. I sticky bombed the basterd and had to go back to LSC.

 

Back in the RR grinding days NPC cars were scripted to ram into you, to slow you down as you were going to Madrazzo.