Which GTAO version do you prefer? LG or NG?

[PalmIsland!]

Welcome,

 

First of all: Do not write "TLTR", if it was to long to read, then do not comment in this thread and leave immediately.

 

I have some problems to like the New generation version of Grand Theft Auto Online on Xbox One. I think I like the Xbox 360 version better, and I think I will go back to the 360 version or quit playing GTAO permanently on Xbox.

 

The difference between Last generation and New generation is not huge. Some of the significant difference between LG and NG is listed here for Xbox One:

 

• Slightly longer draw distance, but it is not big difference.
  • Draw distance from the window in your apartment to the nearby buildings still sucks. I did test it now, and used the same character and the same apartment on Xbox 360 and on Xbox One, there was minimum difference.
  • Also the draw distance on the characters is still the same when flying the Jet.
• Running in 1920x1080p native resolution at 30 fps.
  • Xbox 360 version have 1280x720p native resolution running at 30 fps, but can drop to 20 fps. Xbox One version have higher resolution, but the textures have not been improved much, therefore it is not huge difference.
• New character editor.
  • Character editor has been improved, but it is still the same two character "bodybase" that is used for female and male characters.
  • And I don't like my Asian character on Xbox One. She have been deteriorated, and it is impossible to recreate her and make her an exact copy of my character on Xbox 360. I did play GTAO a lot because I liked my Asian female character, but I do now have problems to stay interested since this game has been changed forever.
  • New walk styles, but the character looks like an idiot when using these. Bad work with the Euphoria (bio-mechanical animation engine from NaturalMotion).
  • Serious glitch at the haircut, which will ruin your character skin texture so they will look "old".
• Useless 1st person mode.
  • It is annoying when driving cars, because the "viewport" is so small. Needed to relearn driving cars in 3rd person mode.
  • Also it is annoying to fly in 1st person mode with the Jet. I had to relearn flying it in 3rd person mode (long range), because I need to be able to see the area on the bottom of the screen, without needing to descend to be able to see the ground.
  • Also there is small glitches with it, such as watch and other items on the arm disappear in the car while driving in 1st person mode. Also that when your character is standing still in 1st person mode, it seems to be standing in "action mode", just like they do when someone is shooting when playing in 3rd person mode.
• New "Passive Mode".
  • New "Passive Mode" sucks, because you can no longer have dogfights in Free Roam. Players always enable "Passive Mode" when I get the offensive position and prepare to destroy their aircraft.
  • It is no longer fun to grief with the Jet, because players just enable passive mode now, and can drive vehicles while being invincible.
  • Also it is "glitched", sometimes the Passive Mode is just like on Xbox 360, when you are on foot, so players can kill me with vehicles, other times I'm being transparent and cannot be hit by vehicles.
  • And now players are working on methods on how to kill players in transparent "Passive Mode", like ditching PV before hitting players, so they get killed by the empty vehicle.
• New Foliage system.
  • It sucks on Xbox One compared to Playstation 4 version. Xbox 360 is like "1", while Playstation 4 is like "2", and Xbox One is just "1.5" (between Xbox 360 and Playstation 4).
  • Rockstar Games have only added some more grass, several shrubs, and more flowers. But it is still cowering less than 50% of the ground. There is many empty areas on the ground where you can see the ground texture and no foliage above it. R* may have done this because of insufficient performance on Xbox One.
• Some few new content.
  • Limited edition is available for all.
  • Only some new vehicles and 2-3 weapons was added.
  • Neon light is available at LSC for vehicles.
  • No new properties, clothes, player actions, etc.
• And many small changes.
  • It is more difficult to steal a Jet from Fort Zancudo now, you must be very quick and need to use a specific takeoff in order to avoid getting hit by AI Jet. Also this AI Jet have been marked on the map now.
• 30 players lobbies.
  • I have played the game for almost an month now, and I have not seen an 30 player lobby yet. Always some small lobbies or empty lobbies.
  • I need to spend maybe 1-2 hours each time to press "Find New Session", or sign in and out of Xbox Live, or resetting my network switch, or rebooting Xbox One console several times to be able to find an session with maybe 16 players.
  • Always gets disconnected in strange ways or players always leaves quickly.
• New Radar/World Map.
  • Xbox One have a stupid Black/White map now, and Xbox 360 have a colored minimap and World Map, where you can easily determine which areas are grass, desert, oceans, railroads etc.
  • Also the edge on the Minimap has become transparent, player blips are no longer showed on minimap unless you expand it into the long-range map.
• Enhanced Snapmatic.
  • But this is just trifles.

 

That was pretty much it, there is no other significant difference between LG and NG on GTAO than mentioned above.

 

Does anyone else prefer the LG version better than NG version? Will you ever be playing the LG version again after having purchased the NG version? Discuss or write your opinion:)

 

PalmIsland

 

 

[daisymollie]

I have a personal reason for not buying NG. I'm sick and tired of the fact that I have to constantly press the dpad for a larger map view while flying my Buzzard while other planes don't have to. And.... since I expect it would be the same in NG, I'm not buying until I hear it's fixed. Other than that, I would buy in a flash.

 

And I did read your entire post which could easily add to my complaints but right now it's that map.

Edited December 15, 2014 by daisymollie

[SummersJr28]

I have a personal reason for not buying NG. I'm sick and tired of the fact that I have to constantly press the dpad for a larger map view while flying my Buzzard while other planes don't have to. And.... since I expect it would be the same in NG, I'm not buying until I hear it's fixed. Other than that, I would buy in a flash.

 

And I did read your entire post which could easily add to my complaints but right now it's that map.

It is fixed. I know exactly what you are talking about and I can assure that it is. I love it.

[Phantomspirit]

I've got PS4 version and generally am very happy with the upgraded world,enjoy Ist person,especially when soloing missions and driving in empty lobbies.I don't understand why we didn't get animals,machete and Railgun,that is really annoying me ,and the fact that we desperately need a massive DLC now. Ps I did my research before buying the console,and PS4 came up better than Xbone in all reviews ,Graphics,Price,and the fact that XBox was going to stop players selling on or lending their own games!

[Sir Michael]

Current-gen, or "next-gen" according to this thread. I just got the 15 hour first-person achievement. I'm loving the fluidity of my character's movement compared to third-person. It feels like I'm in control of a Call of Duty campaign. Only thing I hate is the right stick dead zone in FPV...

 

The new cars are awesome, the views are beautiful, although the draw distance is still mehh, but can't expect too much out of these puppies compared to a PC. Finding loaded lobbies is still a hassle, but I'm having fun again, and that's all that matters. (:

Edited December 15, 2014 by SirMichaelRocks23

[JC Hammer]

If the moneys no object jump to NG. I wouldn't buy a NG machine only for video games. The graphics improvement is just not that noticeable.

 

I love my X1 as a media center and streaming beast, Microsoft's network is 2nd only to Google and getting better everyday. Lots of improvements, graphics just isn't one of them.

[Dottie]

OP's post is incredibly biased and not worth reading at all in making a judgement in whether or not someone prefers LG or NG

 

 

on topic. I prefer NG over LG any day

 

Edited December 15, 2014 by Winning001

[BigStu4q]

 

• • It is no longer fun to grief with the Jet, because players just enable passive mode now, and can drive vehicles while being invincible.

 

 

 

maybe now you know how the people getting griefed felt.

 

On topic, I'm gonna stick with current gen for now (that's the 360, for people who don't know how that works) Some of the new additions are cool but I'm in no rush to buy the game again at this point

[Jizzle2014]

 

 

 

• It is no longer fun to grief with the Jet, because players just enable passive mode now, and can drive vehicles while being invincible.

 

maybe now you know how the people getting griefed felt.

 

On topic, I'm gonna stick with current gen for now (that's the 360, for people who don't know how that works) Some of the new additions are cool but I'm in no rush to buy the game again at this point

Current gen is ps4 and XB1 and they have been current gen since the day they released (since you don't know how that works)

[PalmIsland!]

Current-gen, or "next-gen" according to this thread. I just got the 15 hour first-person achievement. I'm loving the fluidity of my character's movement compared to third-person. It feels like I'm in control of a Call of Duty campaign. Only thing I hate is the right stick dead zone in FPV...

 

The new cars are awesome, the views are beautiful, although the draw distance is still mehh, but can't expect too much out of these puppies compared to a PC. Finding loaded lobbies is still a hassle, but I'm having fun again, and that's all that matters. (:

LG = Last Generation, NG = New Generation (current generation such as PS4, XB1, and Wii U). Next Generation = Unknown.

 

If the moneys no object jump to NG. I wouldn't buy a NG machine only for video games. The graphics improvement is just not that noticeable.

 

I love my X1 as a media center and streaming beast, Microsoft's network is 2nd only to Google and getting better everyday. Lots of improvements, graphics just isn't one of them.

I agree the graphic improvements suck. Remember that the sh*tty Xbox 360 is from 2005, and Xbox One is from 2013. And there is minimum difference between GTAO on these platforms, and they have already pushed Xbox One to the max, or they would have full foliage and vegetation, much longer draw distance, and of course 60 fps. (60 fps is very important for games with fast motions, or the picture will be very blurry and lose quality if moving very fast).

 

OP's post is incredibly biased and not worth reading at all in making a judgement in whether or not someone prefers LG or NG

 

 

on topic. I prefer NG over LG any day

 

Of course this post was subjectively. I assumed and did expect you to understand that this post was going to be subjectively and my opinion after you have read my introduction;

 

"I have some problems to like the New generation version of Grand Theft Auto Online on Xbox One. I think I like the Xbox 360 version better, and I think I will go back to the 360 version or quit playing GTAO permanently on Xbox."

 

After this introduction, then I did explain why I did "like the Xbox 360 version better". However this post or thread is not an neutral game review. If you wanted to find neutral information, then you need to look somewhere else.

 

 

 

 

• • It is no longer fun to grief with the Jet, because players just enable passive mode now, and can drive vehicles while being invincible.

 

 

 

maybe now you know how the people getting griefed felt.

 

On topic, I'm gonna stick with current gen for now (that's the 360, for people who don't know how that works) Some of the new additions are cool but I'm in no rush to buy the game again at this point

 

I have been griefed and raped very badly several times, so I know exactly how it feels, such as being spawn killed up to 50 times etc.

 

 

Also I will provide some picture comparison from Xbox 360 and Xbox One from the same location/time/with the same character. This way we can see the little difference.

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[PalmIsland!]

Here is 11 pictures showing the little difference between LG and NG version of GTAO. All pictures has been taken in the same area, at the same time, and with the same character which I did transfer to Xbox One. I did not change my character during the transfer.

Xbox 360 version to the left, and Xbox One version to the right;

Here it looks like the drawing distance from Eclipse Tower apartment window to the nearby buildings is just the same.

Inside my garage at Eclipse tower. All cars and gararge looks the same.

Drawing distance looks the same. Just look at the buildings where the graphic begins to be poor. It is the same on both systems.

The same drawing distance. But the sky is more detailed to the right, also there is more lights.

Beach looks the same, but the water to the right seems to have little better light reflection. Better clouds to the right.

Just the same, maybe the picture to the left looks better?

Just the same. No cars on the road on both systems.

Just the same drawing distance, but there is more cars on the road to the right.

Mountain looks more detailed to the right, also the water have better light reflection. But minimum difference.

Here we have an greater difference, the picture to the right is more detailed and have some foliage, but most of the ground is still ground texture.

Apartment looks the same. The light from the city seems to be better to the right.

 

And my character looks best on the picture to the left on all 11 pictures. It is impossible to recreate her 100% on NG.

 

I think I need to recommend other who is deciding to upgrade to NG version, maybe should think twice and buy an another game instead?

 

Maybe someone can provide similar comparison pictures from PS3 and PS4 version?

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[X S]

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

[PalmIsland!]

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

 

I have seen other pictures from this forum showing different areas where the foliage was much denser on the PS4 version than Xbox One. I will see if I can find those pictures.

 

About the improvements, yes they are improvements still if they are very small. But the situation is this: Is the improvements big enough to make it worth to re-purchase the game?

 

Forget the pictures. Watch this video instead:

 

 

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[Coltrane III]

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

Basically what Sabres said.

[PalmIsland!]

 

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

Basically what Sabres said.

 

 

No need for redundancy here. The like button is enough for you.

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[X S]

 

I have seen other pictures from this forum showing different areas where the foliage was much denser on the PS4 version than Xbox One. I will see if I can find those pictures.

 

About the improvements, yes they are improvements still if they are very small. But the situation is this: Is the improvements big enough to make it worth to re-purchase the game?

 

Forget the pictures. Watch this video instead:

 

Yes, and they're completely false. He's not in the same position, nor is he timing them on the correct time of the day. Look at where the shadows are on the Xbox One version in comparison to the PS4's. They're completely off.

 

Trust me when I tell you, there is no difference in foliage. Who are you going to trust? Me, or some YouTube whore that makes his YOUTUBE MONAYYY on creating controversy for views? C'mon, dude.

[PalmIsland!]

Yes, and they're completely false. He's not in the same position, nor is he timing them on the correct time of the day. Look at where the shadows are on the Xbox One version in comparison to the PS4's. They're completely off.

 

Trust me when I tell you, there is no difference in foliage. Who are you going to trust? Me, or some YouTube whore that makes his YOUTUBE MONAYYY on creating controversy for views? C'mon, dude.

I don't have the PS4 version, and this thread was about Xbox 360 version vs Xbox One version comparison. And I did ask for an PS3 version vs PS4 version comparison pictures above. This way we can see the difference between PS3 and PS4 version, and PS4 vs XB1 version too.

 

But we do know that the PS4 have an AMD Radeon GPU with 800 MHz and with 1152 parallel stream processors (equivalent to AMD Radeon 7870). And Xbox One have AMD Radeon GPU (equivalent to AMD Radeon 7790) with 853 MHz with 768 parallel stream processors. Xbox One have less compute power available for performing GPGPU tasks.

 

Also that PS4 have 8GB GDDR5 RAM and Xbox One have 8GB GDDR RAM. However the "garlic" databus on PS4 does provide GPU direct access to RAM with data rate up to 176 GB / second. And Xbox One does only have 68 GB / second data rate between GPU and RAM. But it also have an small useless eSRAM with 32 MB with 204 GB / second between GPU and the secondary RAM type.

 

What I try to establish here is that the PS4 have more GPGPU compute power and faster memory, which again can run heavy games better.

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[Coltrane III]

 

 

I have seen other pictures from this forum showing different areas where the foliage was much denser on the PS4 version than Xbox One. I will see if I can find those pictures.

 

About the improvements, yes they are improvements still if they are very small. But the situation is this: Is the improvements big enough to make it worth to re-purchase the game?

 

Forget the pictures. Watch this video instead:

Yes, and they're completely false. He's not in the same position, nor is he timing them on the correct time of the day. Look at where the shadows are on the Xbox One version in comparison to the PS4's. They're completely off.

 

Trust me when I tell you, there is no difference in foliage. Who are you going to trust? Me, or some YouTube whore that makes his YOUTUBE MONAYYY on creating controversy for views? C'mon, dude.

Agreed

[X S]

 

I don't have the PS4 version, and this thread was about Xbox 360 version vs Xbox One version comparison. And I did ask for an PS3 version vs PS4 version comparison pictures above. This way we can see the difference between PS3 and PS4 version, and PS4 vs XB1 version too.

 

But we do know that the PS4 have an AMD Radeon GPU with 800 MHz and with 1152 parallel stream processors (equivalent to AMD Radeon 7870). And Xbox One have AMD Radeon GPU (equivalent to AMD Radeon 7790) with 853 MHz with 768 parallel stream processors. Xbox One have less compute power available for performing GPGPU tasks.

 

Also that PS4 have 8GB GDDR5 RAM and Xbox One have 8GB GDDR RAM. However the "garlic" databus on PS4 does provide GPU direct access to RAM with data rate up to 176 GB / second. And Xbox One does only have 68 GB / second data rate between GPU and RAM. But it also have an small useless eSRAM with 32 MB with 204 GB / second between GPU and the secondary RAM type.

 

What I try to establish here is that the PS4 have more compute power and faster memory, which again can run heavy games better.

 

 

Ok, but the PS4 version still doesn't have more foliage.

[PalmIsland!]

Ok, but the PS4 version still doesn't have more foliage.

I don't know for sure that PS4 have more foliage than Xbox One, I may be wrong here, if the provided information is incorrect (from other users on other threads on the forum, and the video author above have faked the video).

 

So if you have the PS4 version and insists that the foliage and vegetation density is equivalent to Xbox One version despite that the PS4 is more powerful than XB1 then I can believe you.

 

Anyway if the PS4 have equivalent foliage and vegetation density, it is still a trifle in conjunction with the thread subject, since this thread is primarily about X360 vs XB1 versions.

 

If you have PS3 and PS4 versions, then you could also provide comparison pictures from PS3 and PS4 version? Like I did above if you want.

Edited December 15, 2014 by PalmIsland!

[LambentBunny]

 

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

Basically what Sabres said.

 

I agree we both know an ugly character is going to look even worse on new gen because its higher res so it shows the marks and cold sores more.

The texture loading and sniping distance is a HUGE difference on new gen vs old. The best is going to come from content updates over worrying about not being able to grief other players in a jet all day every day or the fact you cant snipe from Vinewood to LIA.

Edited December 15, 2014 by LambentBunny

[Coltrane III]

 

 

 

Disagree on every point, simply based on the fact that these are all improvements. Minor, yes, but improvements, nonetheless.

 

Also, the PS4 does not have more foliage than Xbox One. It's an outright lie. I did the testing myself.

 

See: http://gtaforums.com/topic/746570-next-gen-online-reactions-thread/?p=1066588771

Basically what Sabres said.

 

I agree we both know an ugly character is going to look even worse on new gen because its higher res so it shows the marks and cold sores more.

The texture loading and sniping distance is a HUGE difference on new gen vs old. The best is going to come from content updates over worrying about not being able to grief other players in a jet all day every day or the fact you cant snipe from Vinewood to LIA.

What she said.

[PalmIsland!]

I'm not going to spend one more second on this thread. Lockdown imminent.

[Andreas]

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