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Stupid arbitrary cheat limitations for no reason.


Racecarlock
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So, ON TOP OF invincibility lasting only 5 minutes to the benefit of no one, super jump now disables itself if you go into a tunnel, subway, or safe house. And you can't re-enable it when in a tunnel, subway, or safe house in the next gen version.

 

What asshole is making these design decisions? Who is sitting there going "You know what cheat codes need to be? Extremely limiting and only marginally helpful"? So on top of not being able to use invincibility during missions like I would prefer to do (And anyone who complains about me being lazy needs to go and get a job in construction and then come back and tell me they still think video games are work with a straight face before doing so), now super jump arbitrarily disables itself.

 

And, I'm guessing, in this new version, skyfall doesn't work with invincibility enabled. I'm guessing. I don't really know. Maybe you need to unlock the ability to use a parachute first, which is also stupid, because parachutes aren't rocket science. But the point is, I used to travel with skyfall, and now I can't. I can't because of these stupid f*cking arbitrary limitations that benefit nobody.

 

Don't bullsh*t me about strategy either. If I wanted to use strategy, I wouldn't be using cheats. Same goes for the sh*tty ass new tank. I don't want to be using strategy when I get in a f*cking tank. But the damn thing can only take 3 vehicle explosions before it dies. Another fun thing, like the cheats, that rockstar decided to ruin.

 

I like to use the weather cheat to make things sunny. Some genius decided "Let's just combine them all into one cheat!" which was somewhat annoying in GTA IV, but at least there you had a cell phone, and RDR had a menu. GTA V not only makes it so you have to cycle through every other type of weather to get to extra sunny using the button cheat if the weather goes bad again instead of a good menu LIKE RDR, but then for no reason, the cheat sometimes doesn't even last 5 minutes! It just goes rainy or foggy again after maybe 2 minutes of play. I don't know if this is another limitation, but what I do know is that I have to get to a high altitude for it to work for more than 2 minutes. And they didn't fix that for the next gen versions.

 

Why are the cheats so crap nowadays? Why can't I use them whenever I choose to? Isn't that the point of cheats? Cheats have been a part of my gaming experience since forever ago. Why all the stupid limitations now? What is the point?

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"IT'S ROCKSTAR'S GAME THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT"

 

And they are ruining their own game.

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If they were going to half ass the cheats, they shouldn't have even put them in... I don't personally use cheats, but I understand how them working improperly or restrictedly could be annoying and offputting.

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If you could superjump in a tunnel you'd glitch right through it and you would post a thread f*cking bitching and moaning like a bitch about that too.

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Yeah some of those decisions were extremely weird. 5 minutes of invincibility is just confusing as f*ck.

 

I also agree about the sh*t health of the Rhino. They defo f*cked that one up.

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If you could superjump in a tunnel you'd glitch right through it and you would post a thread f*cking bitching and moaning like a bitch about that too.

Not true at all, you'd simply hit the roof and ragdoll. You'd probably also take damage if invincibility wasn't on, it would be the same as when you super jump under an awning or something. The roofs of tunnels aren't just optical illusions that have no collision, you can hit them with a car so why the hell would the player character go through them?

 

OT - I agree, all the cheat limitations are stupid. They half ass them all on purpose for no logical reason. Then there's the slidey cars cheat, which is completely glitched(I mentioned it in the driving debate thread so I'm gonna copy and paste what I said there rather than write it all again).

I love the slidey cars cheat itself. What I dislike about it is how glitchy it is in terms of activation. Once it's deactivated by any means other than entering the cheat code again it won't reactivate. For example, if you have the cheat activated and die it will deactivate, but if you reactivate it it will say "slidey cars activated" but the cheat won't actually do anything and slidey cars will never work again for that session(aka you have to reload a save to get it to work again). The same thing happens if you go into any shop inventory or wardrobe and it occasionally deactivates the cheat when you switch characters(though it thinks it's still active and if you enter the code again it will say "slidey cars deactivated"). It can get pretty bothersome.

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"IT'S ROCKSTAR'S GAME THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT"

 

And they are ruining their own game.

 

Then go play something else.

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"IT'S ROCKSTAR'S GAME THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT"

 

And they are ruining their own game.

 

Then go play something else.

 

what an idiotic excuse of a response

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I guess SNT, or another similar trainer will have to step in, for at least the PC version.

 

Furthermore, I could not understand why they decided to remove the vastly superior phone based cheat menu.

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New GTA V Cheats DLC! New and improved invincibility cheat - lasts for 15 minutes! Only $14.99USD, get yours today.

 

Cheers!

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I guess SNT, or another similar trainer will have to step in, for at least the PC version.

 

Furthermore, I could not understand why they decided to remove the vastly superior phone based cheat menu.

The phone menu wasn't superior, really. It could get shot out of your hand. What WAS definitely superior was RDR's menu, because you could still pause and use them anytime. That's what they should have gone for here.

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If you could superjump in a tunnel you'd glitch right through it and you would post a thread f*cking bitching and moaning like a bitch about that too.

Not true at all, you'd simply hit the roof and ragdoll. You'd probably also take damage if invincibility wasn't on, it would be the same as when you super jump under an awning or something. The roofs of tunnels aren't just optical illusions that have no collision, you can hit them with a car so why the hell would the player character go through them?

 

OT - I agree, all the cheat limitations are stupid. They half ass them all on purpose for no logical reason. Then there's the slidey cars cheat, which is completely glitched(I mentioned it in the driving debate thread so I'm gonna copy and paste what I said there rather than write it all again).

I love the slidey cars cheat itself. What I dislike about it is how glitchy it is in terms of activation. Once it's deactivated by any means other than entering the cheat code again it won't reactivate. For example, if you have the cheat activated and die it will deactivate, but if you reactivate it it will say "slidey cars activated" but the cheat won't actually do anything and slidey cars will never work again for that session(aka you have to reload a save to get it to work again). The same thing happens if you go into any shop inventory or wardrobe and it occasionally deactivates the cheat when you switch characters(though it thinks it's still active and if you enter the code again it will say "slidey cars deactivated"). It can get pretty bothersome.

 

I've encountered a place where if you are inside it and super jump you do jump right through the roof and then come down landing on the roof, this area was not a very well known interior (if you could call it that) it's at the back of one of the mansions near Land Act Resevoir basically a shed with a home gym and a dartboard. I would think that for whatever reason this is the case with other areas, having a non solid ceiling yet having a solid roof, and this is why superjump turns off.

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I guess SNT, or another similar trainer will have to step in, for at least the PC version.

 

Furthermore, I could not understand why they decided to remove the vastly superior phone based cheat menu.

The phone menu wasn't superior, really. It could get shot out of your hand. What WAS definitely superior was RDR's menu, because you could still pause and use them anytime. That's what they should have gone for here.

 

I never used cheats in RDR, but the fact as you have stated, entering cheats via a pause sub-menu is I guess superior than the phone cheats. :)

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"IT'S ROCKSTAR'S GAME THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT"

 

And they are ruining their own game.

 

Then go play something else.

 

what an idiotic excuse of a response

 

 

Idiotic? No, idiotic is sitting here and whining like a little baby that soiled its diaper because Rockstar haven't made the game exactly as you want it to be. That's life, kid, you can't always have what you want. There is a game for you, however, it's called Saints Row. Go play that and stop bitching. If your mom gave you a plate of dog sh*t for dinner, would you sit there, eating it, saying "GOD DAMN THIS DOG sh*t IS AWFUL *takes another bite* oh it's DISGUSTING *another bite* man this really sucks! *another bite*", or would you look in the pantry for something else to eat?

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ViceCityStalker

Sorry but I just couldn`t bring myself to get past the massive mountain wall of text.

 

computer says no.

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Disabling cheats in Onine is fair enough but in SP we should be able to do what WE want.

 

I agree 100% with the OP.

 

Most of my time spent on V is messing around and having fun. The number of times that fun has been cut short because the 5 minutes ran out when i was't looking.

 

You could say that ok, Moon gravity gets disabled when you enable fast swim because they conflict. There is absolutely NO reason on god's earth that there should be a 5 minute time limit on invincibility, especially as you can do it again straight way.

 

I've played through V on the last gen, now I just want to get to the end of the story at quick as possible so that everything is unlocked so I can have fun again.

 

If the person from R* who decided on the 5 minute timer for invincibility was ever outed I wouldn't bet he'd live the month out.

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If you could superjump in a tunnel you'd glitch right through it and you would post a thread f*cking bitching and moaning like a bitch about that too.

That's a dumb f*cking argument for many reasons, but mainly because glitching through sh*t is awesome. No one would complain. Edited by Cutter De Blanc
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Man, remember back when GTA:SA where you could turn off wanted levels, have invincibility for however long you wanted, and even cheat in MONEY?

The brainwashed f*ckers at Rockstar don't.

 

What I think they were going for, was a more "DURR REALISM" type of game like IV was, but somehow trying to combine it with the wacky sh*t from previous games. Rockstar, you can't make a game where every car drives like a Lamborghini yet a slight tap into a wall bends your wheel 90 degrees and makes it nearly impossible to drive.

 

And let me get this straight, Rockstar installs an efficient and quick way of entering and enabling cheats with the cell phone of IV and the menu of RDR, but they crap the bed and go with the old school button combination sh*t that does nothing but irritate the player? I'm wondering more and more if they just crapped the cheats in at the last minute.

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Lethal Vaccine

We've said it dozens of times. Realism is f*cking the Series beyond belief.

 

I also don't use Cheats or Mods, etc, etc, but I can see how this is irritating for people who do.

 

Rockstar's last proper GTA Game is IV + Episodes. From V and onward, you mark my words, the Series will diminish and get worse and worse and over the top realism...

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Thankfully I don't use cheats.

Thankfully you brought this thread back up to tell everyone how you don't use cheats. I'll be able to sleep at night now, thank you.

 

Cheers!

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Thankfully I don't use cheats.

Thankfully you brought this thread back up to tell everyone how you don't use cheats. I'll be able to sleep at night now, thank you.

Cheers!

I had to put my 2 cents in.
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I don't know why R* dropped the ball so heavily on this one, easily the worst set of cheats any 3D GTA game has ever seen, no 'never wanted' cheat either ruins cop roleplaying in one good swipe. No idea why invincibility should be limited, no good reason for it.

 

Why make it so you can't enter cheats on the phone also, this was massively convenient and a genius invention on IV, why take good features away? I just don't understand that at all.

 

A good set of cheats extend the longevity of single player, GTA SA is still great to play with cheats, it opens up so many possiblities, being able to play with other gangs, playing as any NPC character (GTA III), I mean, GTA 3 had better cheats than this for god sake.

 

 

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