Enemy auto aim needs FIX

[RedBandit.]

the enemies auto aim in GTA Online is beyond belief. say for instance, i poke my head out of over for a split second, they are able to pop shot me even from blindfire. Also when you are in a helicopter the enemies are able to snipe you from the cockpit with no more than a pistol...while they sit or even DRIVE a vehicle. rockstar need to fix this issue fast as it has been in the game sine launch day. theres no use people saying that they have no issue with this because they need to clearly open there eyes and obviously don't play missions or single player what so ever. Now you have been made aware i ask you to set a mission like the los santos connection to hard and play it with 2 players and come back when you have taken over but still died from incredibly bad coding on the AI side

[Jaggs]

No one would ever die if the Ai didn't do this sh*t.

[Raiden1018]

Okay okay we get it... this has been stated multiple times since launch.

[MonsterCockDude]

No one would ever die if the Ai didn't do this sh*t.

Lower the players health in half, turn off regenerating health, tone down enemy AI accuracy, make it so the enemy AI doesn't die within 1 shot of a pistol.

 

 

Pros:

More realistic tactical shootouts.

Longer lasting shootouts.

Less accurate AI that shoots you within less then a second of popping out of cover so playing smart would actually make it so your guy doesn't get hit.

Less health makes it so when you play dumb the AI easily takes you out and kills you.

[MayoChiki]

I agree, I mean, Rockstar made the driving system a lot easier for casuals, they didn't made the AI incredibly strong on purpose, they f*cked it up for that reason.

[gtafan26]

While there are times that the system for the AI does suck, it makes things more challenging , but a few things that do get annoying is the AI can be in a moving vehicle, the player in a moving helicopter , moving away from the AI and the AI can still land shots on the player, It some of those time when I wish R* would nerf the AI just a little bit.

[Sushi--Wolf]

While there are times that the system for the AI does suck, it makes things more challenging , but a few things that do get annoying is the AI can be in a moving vehicle, the player in a moving helicopter , moving away from the AI and the AI can still land shots on the player, It some of those time when I wish R* would nerf the AI just a little bit.

what are you drivin at 10mph and in a straight line, I seriously don't get what the fk you guys bitch about the AI is fkn cheese cake,, maybe you just aren't very good at the game..? Just switch your aim to auto aim maybe then you can kill them before you die repeatedly, seriously they hit their mark like 40% I walk by police constantly as I ignore them and we are talking three star three cop cars with six police and barely get shot,,, it's a fkn pistol for god sakes and the shotgun is a joke if your more then ten feet away from the officer..... Get te fk outta here and go play some magic cards. Edited December 12, 2014 by Sushi--Wolf

[GG14876]

How about, as well as toning down the accuracy of the NPCs, we give them the ability to actually use tactics? You know, as in a few do blind fire to suppress you while one guy advances for the kill, or flanking maneuvers, decoy, suicide runs (where they sticky a car and drive that into you, just keep tossing grenades while advancing or use rockets at shotgun range)... You know, all the stuff we can do. As it is now, the poor AI is compensated for their lack of tactical ability with aiming...

 

Of course, you could always just set the difficulty to "Normal" or "Easy". Or wait until the PC version comes out and someone does an AI mod...

[BoJack Cognac]

what are you drivin at 10mph and in a straight line, I seriously don't get what the fk you guys bitch about the AI is fkn cheese cake,, maybe you just aren't very good at the game..?

It's fake difficulty. Like rubber-banding in Mario Kart 64.

You can sit at the starting line in that game, go make dinner, come back, and not a single AI player will have finished a lap.

Start the race over and race perfectly and you'll see AI racers breaking the track lap records and sh¡t. They just spawn the other racers behind you when you're doing well.

Fake difficulty.

[Sushi--Wolf]

 

 

what are you drivin at 10mph and in a straight line, I seriously don't get what the fk you guys bitch about the AI is fkn cheese cake,, maybe you just aren't very good at the game..?

It's fake difficulty. Like rubber-banding in Mario Kart 64.

You can sit at the starting line in that game, go make dinner, come back, and not a single AI player will have finished a lap.

Start the race over and race perfectly and you'll see AI racers breaking the track lap records and sh¡t. They just spawn the other racers behind you when you're doing well.

Fake difficulty.

sorry bro Im an adult and never played Mario Kart no idea what the fk you said but this isn't Mario kart and I'm sure they have nothing in common,, please explain what you mean, if I can guess you are saying the game adjust to each person and how well they are doing,,, sorry no..... The police are always the same all other Hostile AI is exactly the same I don't even think one AI is more tuff then the last, an old lady with a pistol and a noose member seem to be on the same playing level difficulty wise, the only thing that may change is a higher grade weapon thats killing you faster if you suck, use cover aim your fkn gun and you can play without issue or you can cry till they just nerf the AI into fkn morons that look at walls and shoot the ground.... People would still say "" waaaa why did the AI shoot my foot again! Edited December 12, 2014 by Sushi--Wolf

[muddeprived]

I just wish they would fix the underwater shooting. I mean they hardly ever miss you when you are down under. You know how hard it is to spear a fish 3 feet from you, let alone shoot someone swimming in the water from a helicopter?

[Sushi--Wolf]

I just wish they would fix the underwater shooting. I mean they hardly ever miss you when you are down under. You know how hard it is to spear a fish 3 feet from you, let alone shoot someone swimming in the water from a helicopter?

"forgot GTA isn't real life" trust me if someone is swimming and you have sights on them a helicopter is a very stable platform soo, look up coast guard snipers.. Have a good night. Edited December 12, 2014 by Sushi--Wolf

[muddeprived]

 

I just wish they would fix the underwater shooting. I mean they hardly ever miss you when you are down under. You know how hard it is to spear a fish 3 feet from you, let alone shoot someone swimming in the water from a helicopter?

"forgot GTA isn't real life" trust me if someone is swimming and you have sights on them a helicopter is a very stable platform soo, look up coast guard snipers.. Have a good night.

 

I'm talking about UNDER water. I jump in the water and swim deep when the choppers start shooting at me but they still hit me on nearly every shot. How they can even see me that deep is a bit odd.

Edited December 12, 2014 by muddeprived

[Rick Daddy]

 

 

I just wish they would fix the underwater shooting. I mean they hardly ever miss you when you are down under. You know how hard it is to spear a fish 3 feet from you, let alone shoot someone swimming in the water from a helicopter?

"forgot GTA isn't real life" trust me if someone is swimming and you have sights on them a helicopter is a very stable platform soo, look up coast guard snipers.. Have a good night.

 

I'm talking about UNDER water. I jump in the water and swim deep when the choppers start shooting at me but they still hit me on nearly every shot.

 

Don't even bother explaining to him, he will just give you another smart ass reply.

[gtafan26]

 

While there are times that the system for the AI does suck, it makes things more challenging , but a few things that do get annoying is the AI can be in a moving vehicle, the player in a moving helicopter , moving away from the AI and the AI can still land shots on the player, It some of those time when I wish R* would nerf the AI just a little bit.

what are you drivin at 10mph and in a straight line, I seriously don't get what the fk you guys bitch about the AI is fkn cheese cake,, maybe you just aren't very good at the game..? Just switch your aim to auto aim maybe then you can kill them before you die repeatedly, seriously they hit their mark like 40% I walk by police constantly as I ignore them and we are talking three star three cop cars with six police and barely get shot,,, it's a fkn pistol for god sakes and the shotgun is a joke if your more then ten feet away from the officer..... Get te fk outta here and go play some magic cards.

 

Dude, pull stick out of your ass , I was not complaining, or bitching, I was just making a comment , I never said the AI was hard, I said it was challenging at times, Why dont you take you are your attitude and get the f*ck outa here.

Edited December 12, 2014 by gtafan26

[Dest45]

To the people saying it makes it more challenging, it isnt a matter of difficulty. its broken AI. It doesnt make the game more fun or challenging it makes it tedious because you can only plah the same way to fight AI, with auto aim or barely sticking your gun out from cover so you can shoot but bot get shot.

 

You can't have actual shootouts in this game. GTA IV was actually fun and the shootouts lasted and a smart player could outsmart or out maneuver the AI. No amount of rolling or zig zagging or suppressive fire or flanking is going to counter the AI auto aim.

 

Ive seen cops aiming at players that are in the subway from on the street. Staring through the dame pavement aiming their guns. It looks dumb, breaks immersion and is fake difficulty because they couldn't take a little time to code their AI properly. Its Lazy AI

[minifat]

If the NPC AI is supposed to be a challenge in this game, it's the least fun and least overcoming challenge I've ever had in a video game.

[MonsterCockDude]

How about, as well as toning down the accuracy of the NPCs, we give them the ability to actually use tactics? You know, as in a few do blind fire to suppress you while one guy advances for the kill, or flanking maneuvers, decoy, suicide runs (where they sticky a car and drive that into you, just keep tossing grenades while advancing or use rockets at shotgun range)... You know, all the stuff we can do. As it is now, the poor AI is compensated for their lack of tactical ability with aiming...

 

Of course, you could always just set the difficulty to "Normal" or "Easy". Or wait until the PC version comes out and someone does an AI mod...

Yes this would be great.

 

 

Although in reality, the AI isn't really that dumb atleast compared to other games, in this game the cops do flank and they do take cover and lay down cover fire, cops with the shotgun usually take point, and they use the helicopters to try and search and spot you. Sure the AI isn't very smart and a competent human will easily be able to out think them on say a 2 on 1 but the AI is pretty good for a free roaming game.

 

 

 

The real big issue though, is the HUD+radar, auto aim, third person cover view ( which could all thankfully be turned off ) and the amount of damage the player can take combined with regenerating health and strong weapons. Since R* wants to make the game moderately challenging they decide to make the AI a really good shot and make them out number you.

 

 

Instead R* should make it so the enemy AI is smarter and your guy can only take a little amount of damage and that you have no hud or radar and have to use free aim, as it would make shootouts longer, more realistic and tactical and require skill.

[DanTFC]

AI isnt difficult you just have to be smart on how you play

get few body armours, snacks ,snipe them on missions whenever possible from long distances, blind fire from cover

When a bunch of goons is chasing you just eat while you drive to recover health

Edited December 12, 2014 by DanTFC

[MonsterCockDude]

To the people saying it makes it more challenging, it isnt a matter of difficulty. its broken AI. It doesnt make the game more fun or challenging it makes it tedious because you can only plah the same way to fight AI, with auto aim or barely sticking your gun out from cover so you can shoot but bot get shot.

 

You can't have actual shootouts in this game. GTA IV was actually fun and the shootouts lasted and a smart player could outsmart or out maneuver the AI. No amount of rolling or zig zagging or suppressive fire or flanking is going to counter the AI auto aim.

 

Ive seen cops aiming at players that are in the subway from on the street. Staring through the dame pavement aiming their guns. It looks dumb, breaks immersion and is fake difficulty because they couldn't take a little time to code their AI properly. Its Lazy AI

Yes legit, the accuracy needs to be toned down, but R* did this because of regenerating health and to make your guy a bullet sponge this is what broke this game.

 

 

 

Here is how the thought went into R*'s heads.

 

 

GTA IV was criticized for being to "realistic" even though it wasn't really realistic it was still more realistic compared to other games in the genre.

 

RDR and LA Noire were even more realistic, with LA Noire being criticized for a lack of shootouts, although that game's style and advertising didn't market the game to the 12 year old COD players with ADHD anyway.

 

 

R* said, hey we want to get the COD kids excited for the game and to buy back into the series. Let's make the story and missions more over the top and more "exciting", to do this lets make it so your guy is involved in bigger shootouts. But since GTA IV with no regenerating health and 8 shots to waste you would make it to hard to have a shootout with 20 cops, let's make it so your health regenerates after a few seconds of taking cover. Also since we are putting in an online mode this would make it so it's more fair to get into shootouts with close to full health as opposed to getting into one shootout and having little health the next one.

 

 

Then they realized that the game was way to easy, so they quickly thought let's just make it so the enemy AI is really accurate to make the game more of a challenge.

 

 

This adds the "excitement" of the AI being able to shoot you easily, you having more targets to shoot, and your guy taking cover for a few seconds to restore your health and get back into a massive shootout.

 

 

But it also takes out the real "excitement" of what a shootout should be about, and that is tactics and using your head to survive it.

[Furry_Monkey]

Lol @ dying, 2 player on Los Santos Connection.

 

Bitch, please.

 

PEBCAC

Edited December 12, 2014 by Furry_Monkey

[Sky_Light12]

harder diffculties ( crackshot NPC , free aim & no HUDs ) = more skill it gives to you . so train " your skill " really harder

Edited December 12, 2014 by Sky_Light12

[Ayylien]

Yeah, just stop playing it on hard if it's to difficult for you.

[Sir Michael]

Lower the players health in half, turn off regenerating health, tone down enemy AI accuracy, make it so the enemy AI doesn't die within 1 shot of a pistol.

 

That's a lie... I shoot AI with both sniper rifles to the chest, point blank with a Pistol .50, close-range with a shotgun, 4-5 rifle rounds, and they get right back up as if they tripped on a rock. If anything, everybody's health needs to be dropped.

[Sky_Light12]

it would be boring if the AI are too easy . but luckily police aren't aggresive as enemies ( sherrifs is even more easier than LS police )

[don ovdi' island]

 

No one would ever die if the Ai didn't do this sh*t.

make it so the enemy AI doesn't die within 1 shot of a pistol.

 

dude… when the fuxk does the AI enemy EVER die within 1 shot of a pistol? Them bitches can survive AA-12 blasts point blank.

[Dest45]

 

 

To the people saying it makes it more challenging, it isnt a matter of difficulty. its broken AI. It doesnt make the game more fun or challenging it makes it tedious because you can only plah the same way to fight AI, with auto aim or barely sticking your gun out from cover so you can shoot but bot get shot.

 

You can't have actual shootouts in this game. GTA IV was actually fun and the shootouts lasted and a smart player could outsmart or out maneuver the AI. No amount of rolling or zig zagging or suppressive fire or flanking is going to counter the AI auto aim.

 

Ive seen cops aiming at players that are in the subway from on the street. Staring through the dame pavement aiming their guns. It looks dumb, breaks immersion and is fake difficulty because they couldn't take a little time to code their AI properly. Its Lazy AI

Yes legit, the accuracy needs to be toned down, but R* did this because of regenerating health and to make your guy a bullet sponge this is what broke this game.

 

 

 

Here is how the thought went into R*'s heads.

 

 

GTA IV was criticized for being to "realistic" even though it wasn't really realistic it was still more realistic compared to other games in the genre.

 

RDR and LA Noire were even more realistic, with LA Noire being criticized for a lack of shootouts, although that game's style and advertising didn't market the game to the 12 year old COD players with ADHD anyway.

 

 

R* said, hey we want to get the COD kids excited for the game and to buy back into the series. Let's make the story and missions more over the top and more "exciting", to do this lets make it so your guy is involved in bigger shootouts. But since GTA IV with no regenerating health and 8 shots to waste you would make it to hard to have a shootout with 20 cops, let's make it so your health regenerates after a few seconds of taking cover. Also since we are putting in an online mode this would make it so it's more fair to get into shootouts with close to full health as opposed to getting into one shootout and having little health the next one.

 

 

Then they realized that the game was way to easy, so they quickly thought let's just make it so the enemy AI is really accurate to make the game more of a challenge.

 

 

This adds the "excitement" of the AI being able to shoot you easily, you having more targets to shoot, and your guy taking cover for a few seconds to restore your health and get back into a massive shootout.

 

 

But it also takes out the real "excitement" of what a shootout should be about, and that is tactics and using your head to survive it.

I hate the whole idea of being a bullet sponge. This isnt halo, we don't have shields to protect us from bullets, just flesh and body armour. There is no epic shootouts where you come out unscathed, you come out your whole body riddled with bullet holes and and covered in blood. Thats not realistic or fun.

 

I think this is a decent game, I just hate the AI auto aim and wall hacking aka faux difficulty

[DanTFC]

^^^ sponging bullets isnt realistic because GTA or any other game with shooting isnt a real life simulator

[Dest45]

^^^ sponging bullets isnt realistic because GTA or any other game with shooting isnt a real life simulator

. No way?! But they have games where you don't sponge bullets... Like GTA IV!!! Holy sh*t.

[DanTFC]

 

^^^ sponging bullets isnt realistic because GTA or any other game with shooting isnt a real life simulator

. No way?! But they have games where you don't sponge bullets... Like GTA IV!!! Holy sh*t.

 

U can get shot multiple times in GTA4 aswell.