Funmw2, Nillxmodz Leaks: Discussion and Speculation

[~Joseph~]

I think this only means you get banned for glitching after the update comes out and then transfering. I have not done any kind of glitch since July. Should be safe no?

[Geisterfaust]

About the heist vehicles

Im petty sure u would have to steal 1 as part of heist missions meaning,u cant use your own vehicle

Yes, you're going to need Sentinel XS, Nemesis and Merryweather mesa or even a Karin Snipe as part of heist preparation.

But that's not going to be a problem. As you can recall from GTAO trailer it's possible to steal a Cheetah from the street.

Edited December 14, 2014 by hei3enberg

[PowerKracker]

I think this only means you get banned for glitching after the update comes out and then transfering. I have not done any kind of glitch since July. Should be safe no?

I certainly hope so...

I hope we don't get hurt for things we did long ago. Give us a last chance to behave.

[elfoam]

Max amount to make within 30 minutes without being marked a cheat is 40K, he said... AKA heist payouts will suck ass. And 40k every 30 minutes is so ittle

That can't be right. I can make 60k in 30 minutes solo on crystal iii. That alone make me think this guy doesn't have all the facts. Either that or rockstar don't know their own games paypout per hour..

Edited December 14, 2014 by elfoam

[~Joseph~]

 

I think this only means you get banned for glitching after the update comes out and then transfering. I have not done any kind of glitch since July. Should be safe no?

I certainly hope so...

I hope we don't get hurt for things we did long ago. Give us a last chance to behave.

 

If that's the case then 80% of the players at this point will be banned

[JohnnyCallisto]

 

Why do you think that prison is gonna be a heist location? What can you rob there? Soaps?

 

If you really think those heists are going be like "rescue my friend from the prison" you're highly mistaken. It would be weird when you replay them, like really? Rescue the same person again? No. In my opinion the only thing that we're going to steal is money from banks.

Maybe the one you rescue is an integral part of a heist you will be performing. No one knows......

 

If you replay anything you tend to experience the same thing happening twice.

[smokingndriving]

 

 

 

Sell those Dubstas and Sandkings while you can.... I'm over 1.5M from Dubstas alone.

 

I will continue to sell them. Even if the system WILL work with that parameters it will be flooded with false reports after car sales and bounty hunting.

Or are you telling me that it's possible to sell them faster than every 48 mins? I'm kind of not at speed with PS4/XB1 glitches.

 

 

No, it's just one of those things. I have spent a lot of time selling/collecting Dubstas over the past couple weeks. Boring? Kinda. However, I knew that it wasn't going to be forever and that - when it eventually stopped - I'd be happy I did.

 

As I've said before on this board, this game rarely ever GIVES you opportunities to make big, easy money and you have to take them when they're presented to you.

 

I do think that this anti-cheat measure will be faulty on day 1, but I don't want to take any chances at going to cheater pool (even if it isn't for a valid reason - such as selling Dubstas and Sandkings that are actually spawning in traffic) and losing all my money.

 

I mean, it's ridiculous - I can make more than $40k in under an hour easy by Rooftop Rumble alone and way more if I sell a Dubsta and then do a couple RR's, but again, I'm not wanting to go to CP and have my money wiped.

 

Also, just SHOCKING that the potential "cheat" that R* is focusing on is money related (and I'm not going to say "Kash kurdz" or whatever, but geez, there's other issues that will probably never get fixed.

 

Finally, as other people have said, if they are saying you can't make more than $40K in an hour, heists aren't going to pay squat.

 

So, I figure I have another week or so worth of selling Dubstas and then I'll stop for a while and see how things play out before selling another one.

Edited December 14, 2014 by smokingndriving

[Geisterfaust]

 

 

Why do you think that prison is gonna be a heist location? What can you rob there? Soaps?

 

If you really think those heists are going be like "rescue my friend from the prison" you're highly mistaken. It would be weird when you replay them, like really? Rescue the same person again? No. In my opinion the only thing that we're going to steal is money from banks.

Maybe the one you rescue is an integral part of a heist you will be performing. No one knows......

 

If you replay anything you tend to experience the same thing happening twice.

 

 

Like retrieving some retarded document for Martin 1,000 times in a row is absolutely enlightening experience.

[elfoam]

Selling 20k dubsters every 48 minutes is dud way of making money. To get 1.5mil doing that in a week and a half you haven't slept. Its only like 12 hours of missions.

[fefenc]

can someone say to me what got leaked or give me a link to see it by myself?

[elfoam]

can someone say to me what got leaked or give me a link to see it by myself?

We are getting like five Christmas cloths and three new cars with heists. That's about it lol. Hopefully he hasn't counted the Hydra as a new thing because it's been in the code for ages. Still a mystery why it was pulled from flight school at the last hour.

[Spring Rubber]

Ok, let's just say that Rockstar was holding off on releasing heists until they could develop this new anti-cheat system, and let's say that Rockstar wants to make sure that everyone plays heists to make money...

 

What if, when heists are released, Rockstar decides to implement a money wipe storyline in which <insert criminal organization here> has pulled off the heist of the century on Maze Bank, effectively cleaning Maze Bank dry. All GTAO players have been compensated the GTA universe version of FDIC's 250,000 (or some other fake value), and as payback for the Maze Bank heist that stripped the players of all their money, the players have decided to rebel and pull off heists of their own to earn their money back.

 

This doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. After all, it would be silly to implement an anti-cheat system now with so much of the playerbase already having millions of dollars of glitched money in both last gen and new gen. It makes sense to me that if they're going to implement an anti-cheat system, they'd also do a money wipe at the same time, and what better way to do it than with a heist-based storyline, maybe even including a cutscene the first time you boot up after the patch in which your character learns about the Maze Bank Heist and is informed that their bank account has been cleaned dry, only to be compensated with $100K-$300K of federally insured money, and the player will then call Lester to find out what they can do to earn back their money, and Lester will limp his way into the player's apartment and set up a heist room for them.

 

That's how I'd pull it off if I were Rockstar. I don't exactly want to have my bank account cleaned out, but this does seem like a sensable thing to do from Rockstar's standpoint.

[E•MO•TION]

can someone say to me what got leaked or give me a link to see it by myself?

Exclusive Holiday DLC Leaks

Exclusive Heist DLC Leaks

Anti-Cheat System

[ExtendUnlimited]

can someone say to me what got leaked or give me a link to see it by myself?

edit: 2281 got it, but I curious about this "6 Heist missions in 4 unique locations"

Edited December 14, 2014 by ExtendUnlimited

[elfoam]

The vast majority of the player base can't even afford to paint their street stolen cars man.. Gees you need to step outside a friend inspired lobby. Noooone has any money.

[Alec Skorpio]

I can earn 28k in Los Santos connection within 15 minutes so either it's smart enough to tell or there gon be a lot of f*cked up bans.

 

Also makes it seem like heist payouts going to suck

[Muskidinho04]

The maximum amount that can be earned within a 30-minute period (real-life minutes, not in-game) to prevent being marked as a cheat is around $40,000 GTA$. The maximum amount of RP is 14000 before being marked as a cheat.

Earning this amount through missions, genuine car sales etc within 30 minutes will not mean you are marked as a cheat, as the system can tell the difference between someone farming missions and someone duplicating/selling vehicles without the 45-minute sell cap.
^i like how a lot of people chose not to read these lines in bold. ffs people read the whole damn article. this would be nice if its true. as some others said this might of been the reason heists were pushed back because of people taking advantage of the car sales glitch.

Edited December 14, 2014 by Muskidinho04

[Spring Rubber]

Selling 20k dubsters every 48 minutes is dud way of making money. To get 1.5mil doing that in a week and a half you haven't slept. Its only like 12 hours of missions.

It wouldn't be your only source of money; it would just be something you do at the start of every session and in between mission sessions if you wind up getting dumped back to freemode at any point after 48 minutes of doing missions. Might as well give yourself a $23,250 boost instantly whenever you find yourself in freemode.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they patch out the modded NPC vehicles AND the truck horn glitch in the next patch. I'm 99% sure that the truck horn glitch will be patched, but the modded NPC vehicles could just as easily be patched out with a reason like, "Fixed a glitch in which modified NPC vehicles intended for single player would accidentally spawn Online."

[shadyelf]

Ok, let's just say that Rockstar was holding off on releasing heists until they could develop this new anti-cheat system, and let's say that Rockstar wants to make sure that everyone plays heists to make money...

 

What if, when heists are released, Rockstar decides to implement a money wipe storyline in which <insert criminal organization here> has pulled off the heist of the century on Maze Bank, effectively cleaning Maze Bank dry. All GTAO players have been compensated the GTA universe version of FDIC's 250,000 (or some other fake value), and as payback for the Maze Bank heist that stripped the players of all their money, the players have decided to rebel and pull off heists of their own to earn their money back.

 

This doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. After all, it would be silly to implement an anti-cheat system now with so much of the playerbase already having millions of dollars of glitched money in both last gen and new gen. It makes sense to me that if they're going to implement an anti-cheat system, they'd also do a money wipe at the same time, and what better way to do it than with a heist-based storyline, maybe even including a cutscene the first time you boot up after the patch in which your character learns about the Maze Bank Heist and is informed that their bank account has been cleaned dry, only to be compensated with $100K-$300K of federally insured money, and the player will then call Lester to find out what they can do to earn back their money, and Lester will limp his way into the player's apartment and set up a heist room for them.

 

That's how I'd pull it off if I were Rockstar. I don't exactly want to have my bank account cleaned out, but this does seem like a sensable thing to do from Rockstar's standpoint.

I think shark cards put a dent in that idea, creative as it is. You buy a shark card with your christmas money, then have it all taken away? The damage is done, Rockstar's best bet is to just suck it up and move forward.

[REVENGE777]

 

 

 

 

 

Wait... what if this makes all these interiors available in freeroam?? AMAZING! just my opinion

Maby NG , certainly not CG

 

why not

Lonsole cimitations.And it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

 

LG has some of the same labor intensive areas that CG has, areas that are more laborious than what you're talking about. The ability to see the interior of the Life Invader through windows for one.

 

A flight underneath the map will demonstrate most interiors are not rendered until some parameter is met. In case of interiors with no transparent windows it most likely locus. Meaning the interiors aren't visible until you're near an open door or inside (The ornate bank is probably a 2 stage interior, that's why there's a bank of ATM's blocking view from the outside)

 

The information is there, the room, the furnishings and all the collision data but until the parameter is met it isn't rendered. So all the interiors in the game ARE IN THE GAME, old or current, whether you have access to them or not.

 

So if current has access to them, LG could have access to them.

 

Uhh, I was joking. You ain't have to be an asshole and go all Neil degrasi on me...

[Spring Rubber]

 

Ok, let's just say that Rockstar was holding off on releasing heists until they could develop this new anti-cheat system, and let's say that Rockstar wants to make sure that everyone plays heists to make money...

 

What if, when heists are released, Rockstar decides to implement a money wipe storyline in which <insert criminal organization here> has pulled off the heist of the century on Maze Bank, effectively cleaning Maze Bank dry. All GTAO players have been compensated the GTA universe version of FDIC's 250,000 (or some other fake value), and as payback for the Maze Bank heist that stripped the players of all their money, the players have decided to rebel and pull off heists of their own to earn their money back.

 

This doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. After all, it would be silly to implement an anti-cheat system now with so much of the playerbase already having millions of dollars of glitched money in both last gen and new gen. It makes sense to me that if they're going to implement an anti-cheat system, they'd also do a money wipe at the same time, and what better way to do it than with a heist-based storyline, maybe even including a cutscene the first time you boot up after the patch in which your character learns about the Maze Bank Heist and is informed that their bank account has been cleaned dry, only to be compensated with $100K-$300K of federally insured money, and the player will then call Lester to find out what they can do to earn back their money, and Lester will limp his way into the player's apartment and set up a heist room for them.

 

That's how I'd pull it off if I were Rockstar. I don't exactly want to have my bank account cleaned out, but this does seem like a sensable thing to do from Rockstar's standpoint.

I think shark cards put a dent in that idea, creative as it is. You buy a shark card with your christmas money, then have it all taken away? The damage is done, Rockstar's best bet is to just suck it up and move forward.

 

Based on the rules regarding shark card money not being transferred between Microsoft and Sony consoles, they clearly have a backend tracking system for which money was earned in-game and which money was purchased through Shark Cards. The story could specifiy that the Shark company was not affected by the Maze Bank's misfortunes and that all of the Shark company's money was retained by the player.

[Cha Boy Jesus]

Ok, let's just say that Rockstar was holding off on releasing heists until they could develop this new anti-cheat system, and let's say that Rockstar wants to make sure that everyone plays heists to make money...

 

What if, when heists are released, Rockstar decides to implement a money wipe storyline in which <insert criminal organization here> has pulled off the heist of the century on Maze Bank, effectively cleaning Maze Bank dry. All GTAO players have been compensated the GTA universe version of FDIC's 250,000 (or some other fake value), and as payback for the Maze Bank heist that stripped the players of all their money, the players have decided to rebel and pull off heists of their own to earn their money back.

 

This doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. After all, it would be silly to implement an anti-cheat system now with so much of the playerbase already having millions of dollars of glitched money in both last gen and new gen. It makes sense to me that if they're going to implement an anti-cheat system, they'd also do a money wipe at the same time, and what better way to do it than with a heist-based storyline, maybe even including a cutscene the first time you boot up after the patch in which your character learns about the Maze Bank Heist and is informed that their bank account has been cleaned dry, only to be compensated with $100K-$300K of federally insured money, and the player will then call Lester to find out what they can do to earn back their money, and Lester will limp his way into the player's apartment and set up a heist room for them.

 

That's how I'd pull it off if I were Rockstar. I don't exactly want to have my bank account cleaned out, but this does seem like a sensable thing to do from Rockstar's standpoint.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[Scuba 21]

Max amount to make within 30 minutes without being marked a cheat is 40K, he said... AKA heist payouts will suck ass. And 40k every 30 minutes is so ittle

Doesn't make sense to me.

Can legitimately make more than that now just playing missions.

Unless they plan on nerfing payouts...again.

[blk95ta]

Ok, let's just say that Rockstar was holding off on releasing heists until they could develop this new anti-cheat system, and let's say that Rockstar wants to make sure that everyone plays heists to make money...

 

What if, when heists are released, Rockstar decides to implement a money wipe storyline in which <insert criminal organization here> has pulled off the heist of the century on Maze Bank, effectively cleaning Maze Bank dry. All GTAO players have been compensated the GTA universe version of FDIC's 250,000 (or some other fake value), and as payback for the Maze Bank heist that stripped the players of all their money, the players have decided to rebel and pull off heists of their own to earn their money back.

 

This doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. After all, it would be silly to implement an anti-cheat system now with so much of the playerbase already having millions of dollars of glitched money in both last gen and new gen. It makes sense to me that if they're going to implement an anti-cheat system, they'd also do a money wipe at the same time, and what better way to do it than with a heist-based storyline, maybe even including a cutscene the first time you boot up after the patch in which your character learns about the Maze Bank Heist and is informed that their bank account has been cleaned dry, only to be compensated with $100K-$300K of federally insured money, and the player will then call Lester to find out what they can do to earn back their money, and Lester will limp his way into the player's apartment and set up a heist room for them.

 

That's how I'd pull it off if I were Rockstar. I don't exactly want to have my bank account cleaned out, but this does seem like a sensable thing to do from Rockstar's standpoint.

 

That would piss off a lot of players. If they didn't wipe money when we went from 360/ps3 to ps4/xb1, it'd be a dick move to do it now. What if some people bought shark cards before the update only to have it wiped by R*? that would piss a f*ck ton of people off.

The maximum amount that can be earned within a 30-minute period (real-life minutes, not in-game) to prevent being marked as a cheat is around $40,000 GTA$. The maximum amount of RP is 14000 before being marked as a cheat.

 

Earning this amount through missions, genuine car sales etc within 30 minutes will not mean you are marked as a cheat, as the system can tell the difference between someone farming missions and someone duplicating/selling vehicles without the 45-minute sell cap.

^i like how a lot of people chose not to read these lines in bold. ffs people read the whole damn article. this would be nice if its true. as some others said this might of been the reason heists were pushed back because of people taking advantage of the car sales glitch.

 

ok so what if you have 2 legit purchased cars and decide to sell both to replace them with a more expensive car? you take one to LSC and sell it, and then take the other. both can be sold because they are both bought cars.

 

All i know, is i'm glad i cashed in my adder bonds already

Edited December 14, 2014 by blk95ta

[Mach1bud]

There will not be a money wipe.

 

If you aren't currently cheating you have nothing to worry about. Playing the game normally is not going to mark you as a cheater in any way.

 

You people are so f*cking paranoid.

[Officer Ronson]

What nobody here is screwing into their head is that you'll probably get a big ban slap across your face if the system finds any anomaly while making cash in freeroam. If you make money legitimately via missions and other activities then it's all okay.

[~Joseph~]

I just want to know if I'm going to be banned once I transfer on christmas day because I sold adder bonds back in july and haven't glitched anything since

[smokingndriving]

The maximum amount that can be earned within a 30-minute period (real-life minutes, not in-game) to prevent being marked as a cheat is around $40,000 GTA$. The maximum amount of RP is 14000 before being marked as a cheat.

 

Earning this amount through missions, genuine car sales etc within 30 minutes will not mean you are marked as a cheat, as the system can tell the difference between someone farming missions and someone duplicating/selling vehicles without the 45-minute sell cap.

^i like how a lot of people chose not to read these lines in bold. ffs people read the whole damn article. this would be nice if its true. as some others said this might of been the reason heists were pushed back because of people taking advantage of the car sales glitch.

 

What nobody here is screwing into their head is that you'll probably get a big ban slap across your face if the system finds any anomaly while making cash in freeroam. If you make money legitimately via missions and other activities then it's all okay.

And if you believe that the system is going to perfectly understand what is legit and what is not, by all means. I'm not going to test it.

Edited December 14, 2014 by smokingndriving

[§†range]

 

If you replay anything you tend to experience the same thing happening twice.

 

 

Mind blown*

"You never step in the same river twice" -Osho

[blk95ta]

I just want to know if I'm going to be banned once I transfer on christmas day because I sold adder bonds back in july and haven't glitched anything since

 

Pretty sure this is a real time income detector, not a past money detector. if R* banned anyone who ever gltiched a dime of GTA $, the GTA lobbies would look like this.