universetwisters Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making the GTA universe feel more lifelike, and one of those ways is by making up vehicle brands to, you know, brand the vehicles with. However, is it actually any good? I dunno if I'm the only one, but I find it a bit odd to think that Dundreary, a parody of Lincoln, would make a German Sedan like the Admiral in the III era games. Then you got the Glendale from VC and SA, it's your typical 1950s sedan with the fins and round headlamps and all. Now look at it with a vehicle brand - it's made by Benefactor, the GTA version of Mercedes. Doesn't it seem kinda annoying how inconsistent the stuff is? Also, it gets pretty annoying how childish the names are. Vovlo is "Vulcar" HAHAHAHA VULVA SO FUNNY. Ford is somehow "Vapid" HAHAHA VAPID MEANS "DULL" NOBODY WOULD BUY A DULL CAR. I dunno if that goes with it, but it's still worth noting since it's been bugging me a bit. theGTAking101 and matajuegos01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I don't really give it much thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavle Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hmmm, I never knew the Admiral was made by Dundready. Always looked like a Vapid or Declasse car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Viking Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) I'd rather them use real makes and models but that would cost them a fortune. They have it but they'll never do it bc it's GTA, not Forza. In other words cars are not their main focus. I do agree with the silly names for vehicles (scooter - Faggio) but some are clever, like the Tailgater based on an Audie bc Audie drivers are known tailgaters. Edited December 10, 2014 by American Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Anyone knows on which real life brand is Dinka based on? I just love Dinka Jester in new gen. A nice improvement from old Jester from SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Anyone knows on which real life brand is Dinka based on? I think either Toyota or Honda, one of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I hate how some cars were built by some brand in IV and now they are made by another one in V, like the Stallion. You have to assume things like "Classique, part of the Declasse group, went bankrupt and the main brand took over the Stallion production". Sounds like something you would read in the GTA wikia. Also, some inconsistencies like the regular Minivan being a Vapid and the cab version a Schyster. It's a bit annoying. GrindingOnDatNRG and matajuegos01 2 Did you see the frightened ones? Did you hear the falling bombs? Did you ever wonder... ...why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnits Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I wish it was more organized, but overall, i like the brand names. And Vulcar looks like Vulgar, not Vulva. If anything, the real Volvo looks more like Vulva lol. Just thought i would point that out. matajuegos01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranceking26 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I kinda prefer just having a name for a vehicle, I never saw the need for a brand. ManularChimera, theGTAking101, matajuegos01 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micaam Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making the GTA universe feel more lifelike, and one of those ways is by making up vehicle brands to, you know, brand the vehicles with. However, is it actually any good? I dunno if I'm the only one, but I find it a bit odd to think that Dundreary, a parody of Lincoln, would make a German Sedan like the Admiral in the III era games. Then you got the Glendale from VC and SA, it's your typical 1950s sedan with the fins and round headlamps and all. Now look at it with a vehicle brand - it's made by Benefactor, the GTA version of Mercedes. Doesn't it seem kinda annoying how inconsistent the stuff is? Also, it gets pretty annoying how childish the names are. Vovlo is "Vulcar" HAHAHAHA VULVA SO FUNNY. Ford is somehow "Vapid" HAHAHA VAPID MEANS "DULL" NOBODY WOULD BUY A DULL CAR. I dunno if that goes with it, but it's still worth noting since it's been bugging me a bit. Well, HD-era manufacturers cannot really be reverse applied to 3D-era vehicles. Most manufacturer brands, with the exception of Willard (Elegant), never had a concrete tie with in-game vehicles before the HD-era. The model names carry over from previous games sometimes in name only. This also happens within the 3D-era. Dundreary makes the Admiral in the HD-era canon, but not in the 3D-era, as it clearly is a german vehicle. Branding of the Glendale in V makes perfect sense, it's Benefactor. The model name on the other hand.... But that is hardly the fault of the manufacturer, being applied to the Mercedes-Benz looking car. Vehicle naming inconsistency is somewhat of a problem, but it's hardly new. Remember III's Pony became VC's Rumpo, Rumpo became Burrito, Pony became low roof Rumpo? This sort of stuff has happened a lot between 3D- and HD-era, though. Inconstent allright. The brand names are sort of weird, though. Some are puns (Dewbauchee, Vulcar, HVY, MTL), some are parodies (BF, Classique, Annis, Jobuilt), and about a third of them contains a sexual reference in either name, logo or both. They are also not directly parodies of real-life brands, so the whole system can get a bit confusing. For instance; both Willard and Dundreary make Mercury-based cars, and both Cheval and Declasse mirror Chevrolet. tl;dr: Yes, the system is inconsitent and confusing, but it's not necessarily just the manufacturers. Confusing vehicle naming is a proud Rockstar tradition. I kinda prefer just having a name for a vehicle, I never saw the need for a brand. Badgeless vehicles is soooo last-last-gen. Seriously, though, I feel manufacturer badging helps make the vehicles themselves, and the GTA-verse more detailed and consistent. Non-badged vehicles feel seriously bland and gamey with such high fidelity in details. Billy Benedict, Kafonix, donnits and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79'Blazer4x4 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I like the concept of them having manufacterers, it definitely makes things mor realistic. They are pretty out of whack sometimes though with things like the Jobuilt(Peterbilt) P-996 Lazer. Doesn't bother me too much though, I normally just think of things by their GTA manufacturer that I think they should be. For example, I normally just think of it as the Bravado Dukes instead of the Imponte Dukes. I never really call it either of those though as I never really actually say the manufacterer name out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbid Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I do like the idea of adding car brands to the GTA universe, and the naming seems creative (if not funny and childish), but what I don't like is the inconsistency of the cars they put it in that brand that some of them doesn't even made by the brand that they mock in real life. Take the example of Albany Washington. It's nice to have a parody of Lincoln Town Car in the series, but why do they put it as an Albany (Cadillac) instead of Dundreary (Lincoln)? Also, the Minivan. I still have no idea why R* put a Dodge Caravan as a Vapid (Ford) instead of Bravado (Dodge) or Schyster (Chrysler), while the Cabbie itself is already a correctly-placed Schyster? This case is the same as Speedo (Chevrolet Express-based van that should be a Declasse (Chevrolet) instead of Vapid), Feroci (Nissan Cefiro/Infiniti i30 that should be an Annis (Nissan) or Fathom (Infiniti) instead of Bravado), Warenner (Clearly a Nissan Skyline but made by Vulcar (Volvo) instead of Annis), and many more similar cases like that. Jerome and donnits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I like the concept of them having manufacterers, it definitely makes things mor realistic. They are pretty out of whack sometimes though with things like the Jobuilt(Peterbilt) P-996 Lazer. Doesn't bother me too much though, I normally just think of things by their GTA manufacturer that I think they should be. For example, I normally just think of it as the Bravado Dukes instead of the Imponte Dukes. I never really call it either of those though as I never really actually say the manufacterer name out loud. I'm glad I'm not the only one. It should have been called the Bravado Dukes, for the simple reason of the name rolling off the tongue easier. Thoughts? 79'Blazer4x4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xolov Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I think it is strange that there are no french car manufacturers (exept Truffade) in the game like the Kalahari, based on the Citroen Mahari, but in the game it is a Canis what is a parody on Jeep. Other example is Dinka Chavos the car is based on Peugeot 406, but in the game it is a DInka (honda) Edited December 11, 2014 by elias7001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindingOnDatNRG Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I don't mind it and I think it adds a certain depth to the game. But I don't like a lot of the actual names of the manufacturers. I don't like how sh*tzu is called that and I don't even like the logo even though it's my user picture. I just like to use it to represent the motorbikes in IV. But it has grown on me since using it even though it's a pile of crap.. It looks cool in way. I just don't understand the reference at all for sh*tzu though like is it meant to be funny because the dog named that? If it is how is that supposed to be funny and how does it even make sense? I mean that's just what it is so it fits now and I am used to it but what I don't understand is why. Sorry to go a bit off topic.. Edited December 11, 2014 by GrindingOnDatNRG matajuegos01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnits Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) sh*tzu is pretty clever for Suzuki, in my opinion. A lot of them are clever, albeit immature. But i'm an immature person, i guess, so i don't mind it. However, like many others have stated, i wish they were organized better. Why does Vulcar make the Warrener? Imponte makes the Dukes? Etc. They should have organized them better. Edited December 11, 2014 by thekillerdonuts LightningLord and matajuegos01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They give the world depth. I've always been interested in GTA brands. The vehicle ones have become a little bit f*cked up since IV but I still have my favorites like: Grotti Pfister Dewbauchee I like those because they're clean and accurate. GrindingOnDatNRG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindingOnDatNRG Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I agree that they are pretty clever. And oh okay Suzuki! That makes more sense but I still don't really get it and it isn't that similar to Suzuki really when you think about it but I agree with you that that's what they where "ripping off". I wish they just used real cars. Rockstar Games make Midnight Club with real cars surely they could do it for GTA. But like I said another time, it's a lot of fun discovering all the cars they made up when playing the game for the first times. Edited December 11, 2014 by GrindingOnDatNRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Would you really prefer real cars, even it that means that you wouldn't be able to blow them up and the crash deformations would be very limited? One of the reasons for a game like GTA to not use the real brands. You don't have to pay for the unnecessary brands, you don't have to worry about license limitations and you can make jokes about the real life brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindingOnDatNRG Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yeah I know what you mean and if I really had the choice I guess I'd opt out of that option for real cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facepalm38 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Brands are fine, but I still am wondering one thing: Why do you complain about a car being made by the wrong manufacturer? Chavos is based on a Peugot and it's made by Dinka, a Honda parody. So what? It's the GTA Universe, not Real life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerKracker Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) GTA just wouldn't be GTA with real cars. If everything else is fictional, that would be just out of place. Let's not forget about the mounting costs either, and some companies wouldn't allow it anyway no matter what (Honda and Toyota refuse to license themselves for any racing games that don't take place at closed circuits - which is why you generally only see Nissan in street racing games. And forget about open world crime games for that matter). I'm still curious how things would've been if that scrapped vehicle brand system was in place in SA. Perhaps that's why some brands suddenly popped out in the game world (Willard, Grotti, and Pfister mentioned in ped dialogue). Then there are also two mystery brands, Nioka and Kunst - the former could be anything Japanese, the latter a luxury German brand - perhaps Mercedes. I'd guess that some brands introduced in IV were taken from the scrapped SA list, but some were definitely made for IV in mind (Dewbauchee - formerly named "Asstone", Zirconium, named after a building in Algonquin, Vapid, not having a final name but just being based on the red oval logo found in prior games, and so on). Edited December 11, 2014 by AlfredNTheFettuc Error2k, Sussus Amongus and Facepalm38 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnits Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I actually don't like the idea at all of using real car names. It ruins the creativity that GTA games have always had. Coming up with their own brands, their own cars, their own cities, everything. On next gen GTA 5, they are now doing weapon manufactures. I've always adored their creativity and i don't want them to ever get rid of it for using the real things. theGTAking101 and Sussus Amongus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageRacing00 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They're not all based strictly on a single manufacturer, some are parodies of multiple manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killdrivetheftvehicle Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I can imagine, that if you thought the basis of naming the car would be the looks and history, it seems inconsistent that they change. But in real life different car manufacturers have used similar or same model names for their cars. The difference is only then the manufacturer, right? Also as already pointed out, the manufacturers can sell the model to another manufacturer, and the maker then changes. So in that way you can see why R* named their cars the way they did. OT: I like them. Edited December 11, 2014 by killdrivetheftvehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS 17 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Also here R* wants to save money. They would have to pay the licence for using real brands. So first they have to negotiate with the manufacturers of the cars and then if they agree, they can use the brand, logo, name etc. for a fee, of course. But instead of giving them money, they decided to just chinese the cars by copying them and just change small details. Id rather prefer real names. The same goes for real city names, street names and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Brands are fine, but I still am wondering one thing: Why do you complain about a car being made by the wrong manufacturer? Chavos is based on a Peugot and it's made by Dinka, a Honda parody. So what? It's the GTA Universe, not Real life! Because it just doesn't make any sense most of the time. Yeah it's a game but does saying it's just a game really make any sense anymore? matajuegos01 and Facepalm38 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facepalm38 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Brands are fine, but I still am wondering one thing: Why do you complain about a car being made by the wrong manufacturer? Chavos is based on a Peugot and it's made by Dinka, a Honda parody. So what? It's the GTA Universe, not Real life! Because it just doesn't make any sense most of the time. Yeah it's a game but does saying it's just a game really make any sense anymore? Still yet, since they're fictional companies, they're not permitted on making whatever their real life counterparts have. Not trying to pick a fight here, I agree with what you said, but still, they're fictional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So Dinka is based on Honda? It makes sense but on which model Jester is based on then? What about Lampedatti? Lampedatti Felon sure looks similar to Maseratti Quatroporte. This brand manes can be confusing sometimes along with model names but it`s more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I honestly couldn't care less about the vehicle brands. theGTAking101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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