The Screwy Matchmaking.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

If you have any screenshots of crew being separated in DM or LTS game modes, please post them here, so I can send in multiple screens to the Rockstar support email, in the hope that Rockstar fixes the matchmaking so crew isn't separated in competitive team based game modes..

 

 

Screens so far

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2014 by TheGoodSgtScooter

[Laker23]

This happened tonight but sadly I wasn't recording and didn't bother taking the screenies. We were together for two DM's then I was on the opposing team next time, I had to leave and rejoin to be with the crew again.. that seemed to fix it for me.

[LambentBunny]

"Crew up" Rockstar said. Such a joke

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

CHOO CHOO! SCREEN TRAIN COMIN' THROUGH!

Edited December 11, 2014 by TheGoodSgtScooter

[A J]

Listen, if you want to guarantee being on the same team in this game,

You need to do crew head to heads.

 

This is done via playlist > L3.

 

If GTAF crews want to do this vs DAMN crew, we would be more than happy, because the same sh*t keeps happening to us too.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

I don't want to have to organize a head to head every time I play a deathmatch. It should just auto baLance crew together. If you have screens post them.

[H8GodMode]

90% of matches I play...

[A J]

I don't want to have to organize a head to head every time I play a deathmatch. It should just auto baLance crew together. If you have screens post them.

Same here, but it always seems hit and miss as things stand. I wish there were many more host options for TDM games, from the team balancing to the blips.

 

Hit me up though if you want to get some crew vs crew games going.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

I CHOO CHOO CHOOOSE THESE SCREENS!

Edited December 13, 2014 by TheGoodSgtScooter

[dudclub55]

That's not matchmaking.

[KoingWolf]

This seems fair? Sorry you didn't get to go 4v2 or 5v3 against some randoms, but I'd honestly rather it be this way than having pub stomp games all day in TDM.

 

Might just be me though...

[DJS]

This seems fair? Sorry you didn't get to go 4v2 or 5v3 against some randoms, but I'd honestly rather it be this way than having pub stomp games all day in TDM.

 

Might just be me though...

 

Some of them you have a point, some could be easily balanced.

[SWEETSAPRIK]

Yeah, I see a few where if it kept crew together, it'd be 3v2, or offsided in some way. I really only see one where it would have been off by more than one player though. And in almost all of the others it was off by those exact same numbers anyway. I do see one here where it would be 3v2 if it kept crew together, but it split you, and was still 3v2, but the ranks would have been even more off. Clearly it isn't worrying about that either though, since if it were going by the ranks it would have put the two highest in your crew alone vs all the others. It didn't.

 

Obviously it shouldn't put 9 friends or crew members on a team versus 2 players. I don't think anyone is suggesting that though. If there are even numbers, and half are one crew, or all friends, etc., seems pretty simple. Well to most people. Even if you have a match with an even number of people from each of two crews, set on forced, it will split them. Clearly this isn't what those players are looking for. The only workaround for large matches is mentioned above, and is a pain the balls to do every damn time you want to run TDM. That works now and then, but is more trouble than it is worth if you just have an hour or so of unscheduled free time and want to play a TDM with the people you know.

 

Clearly it is just broken, bad matchmaking. It doesn't go by crews, by friends, not even by ranks. It doesn't seem to go by anything, at least not properly.

 

The sad thing is the number of people this actually keeps from playing in TDMs (or any team missions) that would otherwise. And not just crews either. Me and my friend join a TDM together, we want to play TOGETHER, not against one another. It could easily put us on the same team, and better balance the teams than it will end up doing. For some people playing with their friends and crew are the only reason to play team modes. Being forced to play against them defeats the entire point. There are lots of people that don't play these modes because of this. Many more that just quit out when it screws up the teams. And some that have even figured out the one workaround (other than crew v crew playlists) for smaller groups. However, all three of these things lead to less people running these types of matches, smaller matches when they are being run, and lopsided matches where a bunch of people quit the second they see the matchmaking screwed them.

 

TBH I don't see why they don't just do something like modifying the lobby screen to let people choose their teams, and quit the match or kick players from it without penalty for either, until after the teams are set and it actually starts. Then nobody gets split if they don't want to, and nobody has to worry about getting steamrolled by a group because of uneven/unfair teams. Everyone can see what they're getting, and join, quit, kick, whatever, based on that. Instead of crossing their fingers and hoping it doesn't split the teams so badly that half the lobby quits.

[am30]

I thought matchmaking went on rank so is it really broken or is it just not working the way you want it to?

[Crimson Flam3s]

Its broken and bs.

 

We had a crew match yesterday, 12 people total, 6-6 even teams and it ended up putting 5 crew members and one enemy in each team..

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

I thought matchmaking went on rank so is it really broken or is it just not working the way you want it to?

I've been put into DM's with a level 2, 3, and 15 before, on my low rank character, with the other team consisting of 200+.

It's just screwy.

[am30]

 

I thought matchmaking went on rank so is it really broken or is it just not working the way you want it to?

I've been put into DM's with a level 2, 3, and 15 before, on my low rank character, with the other team consisting of 200+.

It's just screwy.

 

 

So have I with my main character (405). When you say low rank, how low?

[H8GodMode]

everyday... lol

[SWEETSAPRIK]

I thought matchmaking went on rank so is it really broken or is it just not working the way you want it to?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd say it isn't even properly going by rank.

 

Lots of times I see one side of rank 130s and up, and the other side has a handful of people under 50, and nobody over 130. Even just looking at the pics already posted I see instances where if it would have split based on rank, the really low level characters would be on the same side as the really high level characters. Or at least it would have sort of tiered the players and tried to put people 1-20 on opposite sides, 21-41, etc. Or something like that.

 

I admit I see that a lot more in missions with 8 or more players than with like 6 or less, but with them spending so much time bragging about 16-30 player missions, who wants to play a 2v2 or 3v3 on a huge map made for 15v15? For that matter, how is it in anyone's interest (even the people with no friends or crew to play with) to put a huge percentage of players off playing team modes entirely, or cause people to quit out right after they see the teams are screwed, making it even more lopsided than it was to begin with? I played a TDM yesterday that ended with teams 9-2. Me and one other guy on my team were the only ones to not bail. The teams were so one sided to begin with that people left, and that made more people leave, which made more people leave.

 

I really don't get why there aren't just options for this that the host can set, and that all the players can see, before they start the mission. Split teams by rank (maybe even w/l or something), split teams by crew (or friends, or crew and friends), or options for people to manually choose their sides. I get that there isn't any one way that's going to please everyone, every single time, so why not just have options?

 

(edit)

Also, even if you were to consider everyone 120 and up to be equal, since higher rank no longer gives any inherit advantage, still broken. It isn't always so off that it matters, but then some people (me included) aren't that worried about rank. Anything 120 and up isn't really different since you can have max stats, max ammo, and all weapons are unlocked, and with forced the weapon unlocks don't even matter. But yeah, if you have more than one person 15 or under on one side, and nobody under 50 on the other, you can't even say it was properly splitting by rank.

 

@OP

I'll start grabbing screens. Hopefully they'll fix this in some way.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Sweets

[am30]

I usually see it putting one really high rank with the low ranked players on one team and the other team consisting the players with rank in between the low and high so figured it just went on the avererage rank of each side.

[H8GodMode]

I've seen matchmaking go every way possible... I've seen it team up all the super high ranks and put the rank 5s all together...

I've seen it team me and friends, and put us on opposite teams... i don't think there is any rhyme or reason to how it actually works lol

[Ronzilla.]

I wish I could upload my pics here but IDK how on my smartphone. Here's a link to my twitter page that has the pics; https://twitter.com/ronzillasays/status/549405356502556672

[TheGoodSgtScooter]