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The Hero

[REL] Renderware file converter

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The Hero

Sorry, fixed. The forum software detects links wrong sometimes.

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George Costanza

The Hero, do you know what I am doing wrong? (converting VC xbox DFF)

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Edited by Tomasak

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Inadequate

The new DFF converter it is compatible with the PS2 map? I mean now can convert the DFF including his pipelines, e.g. the mission markers... red at day, pinkish at night?

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The Hero

The Hero, do you know what I am doing wrong? (converting VC xbox DFF)

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You have to decompress xbox dffs first. This should work: http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/bin/xboxdecompress.exe

 

I noticed I forgot to include the -s flag in the usage, fixed that now.

 

 

The new DFF converter it is compatible with the PS2 map? I mean now can convert the DFF including his pipelines, e.g. the mission markers... red at day, pinkish at night?

You should be able to convert PS2 map dffs with this but unless the game uses a PS2-like pipeline on the cylinder (which it doesn't currently) you won't see a great difference. I'll see if I can implement a nice way to set the pipeline via dff some time, but not now :)

Edited by The Hero

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George Costanza

Um The Hero when xbox version has compressed both txds and dffs, is there chance it has compressed sfx.raw/sdt and you would do magic decompressor?

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The Hero

I didn't see any compressed raw/sdt files in the xbox games.

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George Costanza

sfx.raw in audio folder. For example VC's sfx.raw is 3x smaller on xbox than on PC

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The Hero

I know nothing about audio but the files don't look compressed to me.

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reditec

Might be the codec. On Xbox they probably used XMA (based on WMA / compression is similar to MP3) and on Windows .WAV (uncompressed audio)

Not the archives are compressed, but the files itself :)

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George Costanza

Might be the codec. On Xbox they probably used XMA (based on WMA / compression is similar to MP3) and on Windows .WAV (uncompressed audio)

Not the archives are compressed, but the files itself :)

Isn't xma for x360?

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The Hero

Did just a small update of lcstxdconv. Noticed the usage explanation was wrong and added the flag -x to extract textures as TGAs.

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guard3

YOU. ARE. AWESOME! Thx a bunch, man! The new tool worked like a charm! :cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie::cookie:

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Blackbird88

 

Might be the codec. On Xbox they probably used XMA (based on WMA / compression is similar to MP3) and on Windows .WAV (uncompressed audio)

Not the archives are compressed, but the files itself :)

Isn't xma for x360?

 

Both.

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SilverRST

 

Might be the codec. On Xbox they probably used XMA (based on WMA / compression is similar to MP3) and on Windows .WAV (uncompressed audio)

Not the archives are compressed, but the files itself :)

Isn't xma for x360?

 

Yes, and both. For an example, GTAIV X360 its 3D files are .xft while the PC version is .wft and .wtd for and .xtd for X360.

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Blackbird88

Those are RAGE specific formats. XMA can be used in any Xbox/Xbox 360 game and as reditec said it's based on WMA Pro codec.

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reditec

Those are RAGE specific formats. XMA can be used in any Xbox/Xbox 360 game and as reditec said it's based on WMA Pro codec.

I'm not sure whether XMA was a Xbox format or whether it is a Xbox 360 only format.

But yes, it's based on WMA Pro. :)

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The Hero

[12:40:48 AM] ASH: SFX on PC uses 16bit LPCM, where as on Xbox it uses ADPCM

[12:40:51 AM] ASH: That's it
[12:41:00 AM] ASH: that's the reason, case closed

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The Hero

Update:

I rewrote the iOS DFF code such that I got mdl->dff conversion for free. This functionality was moved to the stories converter and is *no* longer part of convdff.exe

So this program converts PS2 chks, mdls and iOS txds, dffs:

http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/bin/storiesconv.exe

All other dff conversion is still handled by convdff.exe

Edited by The Hero

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iFarbod

Update:

I rewrote the iOS DFF code such that I got mdl->dff conversion for free. This functionality was moved to the stories converter and is *no* longer part of convdff.exe

So this program converts PS2 chks, mdls and iOS txds, dffs:

http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/bin/storiesconv.exe

All other dff conversion is still handled by convdff.exe

Nice.

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guard3

Update:

I rewrote the iOS DFF code such that I got mdl->dff conversion for free. This functionality was moved to the stories converter and is *no* longer part of convdff.exe

So this program converts PS2 chks, mdls and iOS txds, dffs:

http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/bin/storiesconv.exe

All other dff conversion is still handled by convdff.exe

 

Much appreciated!

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RacingFreak

Really awesome!! Thank you so much :colgate:

 

Really long awaited than the current process of importing in 3DS Max using scripts and so on.

 

P.S.
Slightly off topic, but can you take a look into Bully's PS2 DFF format? Here are some samples: http://www.solidfiles.com/d/75cc3f802e/

Thanks!

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The Hero

Right...wanted to take at these as well. Shouldn't be that much of a problem to read them correctly but it will require some work.

BTW, I'm working on a dff importer for 3ds max based on librw. It will be better than current importers and should be able to read all dffs librw can read (which means native ps2, xbox, etc. geometry as well).

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RacingFreak

Right...wanted to take at these as well. Shouldn't be that much of a problem to read them correctly but it will require some work.

BTW, I'm working on a dff importer for 3ds max based on librw. It will be better than current importers and should be able to read all dffs librw can read (which means native ps2, xbox, etc. geometry as well).

Thank you, that will be greatly appreciated :)

 

I have noticed a little problem if I try to import converted PS2 stories vehicle mdl (dff -v 33002) into Zmodeler 2; it imports just fine, BUT only the _dam parts, no _ok. It's really weird that it also assigns the parts like that:

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This is however not the case with an IOS DFF as it's converted without any problems :)

 

 

Can you look into that? Ideally I would import into Zmodeler 1, but I don't know which DFF version it does read. Thanks :)

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The Hero

Oh, this is interesting. I've wondered whether such dffs could exist. Looks like they can (even if they're not really RW dffs of course). The problem is multiple atomics (geometry) are attached to the same frame (a point in space) while normally only one is. My 3ds max importer only imports the _ok geometry in this case for instance. This problem can of course be solved but I won't do it right away. I'm busy with other things as well.

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RacingFreak

Oh, this is interesting. I've wondered whether such dffs could exist. Looks like they can (even if they're not really RW dffs of course). The problem is multiple atomics (geometry) are attached to the same frame (a point in space) while normally only one is. My 3ds max importer only imports the _ok geometry in this case for instance. This problem can of course be solved but I won't do it right away. I'm busy with other things as well.

Indeed, I also noticed that your previous LCS DFF converter made so the model parts had no names, while the dummies were named [0],[1],[2]... etc.

 

Of course, this is nothing that needs to be rushed, so take your time! :^:

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The Hero

Updated convdff and storiesconv:

convdff:

- had a bug with PS2 geometry that is now hopefully fixed (it will be fixed in the next version of my 3ds max importer too)

 

storiesconv:

- I'm now repairing node hierarchies in that I'm assigning IDs to nodes that have none. This isn't strictly necessary for the models to work in game but it is necessary to import files correctly

- added the switch '-a' to fix up multiple atomics per frame when converting vehicle mdls (the problem reported above)

Edited by The Hero

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guard3

Hey, at least as far as storiesconv is concerned, could you incorporate some sort of meterial rearrangement? Because, many lcs objects have alphabugs.

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